Thai boyfriend faints in tears as Frenchman, 80, leaps to his death

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Thai boyfriend faints in tears as Frenchman, 80, leaps to his death

 

Picture: Pattaya Eastern News

 

Thai media Pattaya Eastern News reported that police in Pattaya suspect that an 80 year old French man ended his own life by jumping from the 17th floor balcony of his condominium.

 

Michel Hostailler was found dead on the ground with multiple fractures. He was not wearing shoes.

 

Pattaya's chief of tourist police Lt Col Piyapong Ensarn was on the scene with other officers.

 

Mr Hostailler's boyfriend Siwaporn Pala, 38, had to be treated by rescue services at the scene after bursting into tears by the body and fainting.

 

After recovering his composure Siwaporn said that he and the victim had shared room 965 together for about a year. His boyfriend had shown no signs of depression though he did have some problems with an ex wife in France.

 

Yesterday morning Siwaporn said that he went to the temple to give alms and make merit and embraced his boyfriend affectionately on the way out. Everything was normal and there was no indication that he was going to end his life.

 

Police found no signs of a struggle or anything out of place in the room.

 

But they found a note in French. The contents were not revealed in the story on Facebook.

 

The cops said they believed that stress from some problem faced by the victim led him to commit suicide.

 

A full autopsy will be carried out at the Police Hospital and the embassy has been informed.

 

The Jomtien condo was not named in the report.

 

Source: Pattaya Eastern News

 

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[Jan Van Caeyzeele]

R.I.P.

[NCC1701A]

" He was not wearing shoes."

 

RIP

[darksidedog]

Very sad. Too many people ending their life this way.

Whatever his issue was, I hope he is at peace now.

RIP.

[Just1Voice]

I believe that in some - I said some - cases these "suicides" are actually accidents from low railings on balconies.  Some years ago wife and I looked at a number(15 or so) of condos here in Chiang Mai and the one thing I noticed is that not a single one of them had a balcony railing that even came up as high as my waist.  And I'm only 175 cm.  The slightest misstep, or loss of balance, and you're dead.  We decided to keep our very nice house out of the city proper instead. 

[canopus1969]

The Jomtien condo was not named in the report.

 

Guess - View Talay...............

[Andrew Dwyer]

RIP Michel .

 

[arithai12]

Mandatory for foreigners in Thailand: travel insurance and parachute.

RIP french guy.

[essox essox]

does it really matter if he was wearing SHOES or NOT....stupid reporting !!

[colinneil]

What a sad/ tragic way to go, R.I.P. sir, hope you are now at peace.

Problems with his ex, boyfriend probably pestering him for money, money give me now.

Poor man just had enough, and took the only way out he could think of.

[toenail]

Feeling sorry for the Thai companion. 

[bert bloggs]

Another one taking the Pattaya high dive ,

[anon789561]

10 minutes ago, essox essox said:

does it really matter if he was wearing SHOES or NOT....stupid reporting !!

It is a bit daft. If he was living in a condo he wouldn’t have been wearing his shoes indoors and he didn’t need to put them on to go outside as he jumped off his own bloody balcony. Anyway. Rip old fella. 

[anon789561]

“His boyfriend had shown no signs of depression though he did have some problems with an ex wife in France”

maybe something to do with him being shacked up for the past year with a thai boy half his age in pattaya??

[anon789561]

1 minute ago, colinneil said:

What a callous comment, have you ever been depressed? probably not.

People dont just wake up in a morning and say today i will jump off a high building.

Something ( we dont know about) pushed him over the edge, as i have already said problems with his ex, young boyfriend demanding money, who knows, very sad that the poor man felt it was the only thing to do.

I think it can be discussed a little, I doubt very much he has family that would read thai visa. He was 80 so hardly took his life young. Perhaps his problems stemmed from being a closet gay his whole life and lived his life as other people expected him too and for the past year he was able to be himself and decided that was enough. Whatever the reasons, yes the comment you replied to was callous

[AlexRich]

Lucky that he left a note in French. I’m presuming that it was a suicide note? If so that clears the boyfriend. I wonder if this is happening as frequently in the West but is just not reported? The suicide rate of foreigners in Thailand is troubling.

[richard_smith237]

51 minutes ago, essox essox said:

does it really matter if he was wearing SHOES or NOT....stupid reporting !!

I suppose there may have been intended implications that he was not out walking and was killed in a hit & run or something similar.... At least that's all I can see into this comment.

 

It's clumsy reporting - but isn't the reporting in Thailand always clumsy to some degree?

[orchis]

I am sorry for that man and for his partner.

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

Whatever the pressures and reasons which force someone to take their own life there will always be implications for others. In this case there is the risk of falling on innocents... also, kids may see the mess etc which could become psychologically damaging. 

 

In English law it's said that someone can only commit suicide when "the balance of their mind is disturbed" i.e. temporarily off their rocker. When people are in the mental state to commit suicide, their reasoning goes out of the window. They don't have the ability to consider the consequences.

 

As for Thai children observing the scene, a few months ago, a Thai guy jumped off a bridge onto a railway line just as a train was coming. His head was severed and remained near the bridge at the side of the track, his body was deposited on the track, a couple of hundred metres away. Really gory.

 

The police took hours to remove the body or even cover it. As it was a busy Soi, near my home, a large crowd gathered, taking selfies and generally having a good time. Whole families arrived and their children were impressed with the "entertainment".

 

Death doesn't have the same conotations as it does in the West, just part of daily life, it just washes over children, which, maybe, is as it should be.

[Esso49]

I'm not surprised the 80 year old was having problems with his ex wife when she found out he was living with a 38 year old Thai man. 

[wgdanson]

2 hours ago, colinneil said:

Something ( we dont know about) pushed him over the edge,

And that is a rather mis-worded comment!

[colinneil]

4 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

And that is a rather mis-worded comment!

Not a very smart thing to do, taking my words out of context.

Clearly you have been lucky in your life, never suffered serious depression, well i have.

Being told you will never walk again was enough to push me into  a serious depression, i wanted to end my life, but i was unable to lift my arms more than a few inches, i was strapped down on my bed because i kept pulling out the tubes that were keeping me alive, i was brought out of it by my wife and a few very close friends, i got a lot of support.

This poor Frenchman clearly had no support, was alone in a depressed state and thought that jumping off the balcony was the only answer.

[pegman]

2 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Lucky that he left a note in French. I’m presuming that it was a suicide note? If so that clears the boyfriend. I wonder if this is happening as frequently in the West but is just not reported? The suicide rate of foreigners in Thailand is troubling.

The suicide rate in Thailand as a whole ranks 28 of 177 countries. France comes in at 25th. I know in my home country it is very seldom reported in media.

 

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/suicide-rate-by-country/

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, Spidey said:

In English law it's said that someone can only commit suicide when "the balance of their mind is disturbed" i.e. temporarily off their rocker. When people are in the mental state to commit suicide, their reasoning goes out of the window. They don't have the ability to consider the consequences.

 

As for Thai children observing the scene, a few months ago, a Thai guy jumped off a bridge onto a railway line just as a train was coming. His head was severed and remained near the bridge at the side of the track, his body was deposited on the track, a couple of hundred metres away. Really gory.

 

The police took hours to remove the body or even cover it. As it was a busy Soi, near my home, a large crowd gathered, taking selfies and generally having a good time. Whole families arrived and their children were impressed with the "entertainment".

 

Death doesn't have the same conotations as it does in the West, just part of daily life, it just washes over children, which, maybe, is as it should be.

4

 

That's awful. I would do whatever it took to ensure my Son is not exposed to images such as this which have been proven to have a psychological impact on a young mind. 

 

That families were rocking up is quite sick, that they were not trying to protect their kids shows a huge degree of ignorance.

 

Just because 'others do it' doesn't make it any less stupid -  IMO this not as things should be.

 

 

 

Regarding the psychological mindset of someone who is about to commit suicide - I get it that their thought process do not follow consequential logic - However, it doesn't make the impact of their actions on innocents any less severe, and while we may all feel sympathetic are we not also highly sympathetic to those unnecessarily impacted by such a choice?

 

 

[pegman]

18 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Not a very smart thing to do, taking my words out of context.

Clearly you have been lucky in your life, never suffered serious depression, well i have.

Being told you will never walk again was enough to push me into  a serious depression, i wanted to end my life, but i was unable to lift my arms more than a few inches, i was strapped down on my bed because i kept pulling out the tubes that were keeping me alive, i was brought out of it by my wife and a few very close friends, i got a lot of support.

This poor Frenchman clearly had no support, was alone in a depressed state and thought that jumping off the balcony was the only answer.

All do respect none of us have any clue what happened here. It could have been accidental or if it was on purpose it may have stemmed from some terminal condition. Maybe it was murder, who knows. The letter my have just been regular correspondence.

[pegman]

3 hours ago, canopus1969 said:

The Jomtien condo was not named in the report.

 

Guess - View Talay...............

 

3 hours ago, canopus1969 said:

The Jomtien condo was not named in the report.

 

Guess - View Talay...............

2?

[wgdanson]

55 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Not a very smart thing to do, taking my words out of context.

Clearly you have been lucky in your life, never suffered serious depression, well i have.

Being told you will never walk again was enough to push me into  a serious depression, i wanted to end my life, but i was unable to lift my arms more than a few inches, i was strapped down on my bed because i kept pulling out the tubes that were keeping me alive, i was brought out of it by my wife and a few very close friends, i got a lot of support.

This poor Frenchman clearly had no support, was alone in a depressed state and thought that jumping off the balcony was the only answer.

Sorry Colin, I have a wierd sense of humour. And yes, I have been lucky in my life, thanks.

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, canopus1969 said:

The Jomtien condo was not named in the report.

 

Guess - View Talay...............

I agree. Which SPECIFIC building? 

Is there some legal problem with naming it?

It's called NEWS. That means actual facts and information.

That would include the specific condo building.

 

[KittenKong]

3 hours ago, Happy enough said:

“His boyfriend had shown no signs of depression though he did have some problems with an ex wife in France”

maybe something to do with him being shacked up for the past year with a thai boy half his age in pattaya??

A 38-year-old "boy"? Hardly.

 

And what business would that be of an ex-wife anyway?

[kwan]

OK lets cut to the chase - View Talay 2B - Jomtien Facing - to the right of the front entrance - does it matter - very sad - many ill informed/guesswork and callous suggestions posted.