Video Foreign tourist assaulted by security guard after being denied entry at Don Mueang

[tropo]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

<deleted>... when you enter a country and they deny you entry and restrict you to a room you do not go walkabout.. some countries if you did that you'd be in a morgue !!

Yes, in most countries they would merely restrain the errant tourist and put him in a holding room or lockup facility to prevent him from making a scene and disturbing the peace.  

 

Everyone seems to be making a big song and dance about this, but it's just one security guard at fault here, and his superiors have taken the appropriate action.

 

This thread has just been a good vehicle for the large anti-Chinese brigade to get their 2 cent's worth in.

[Ctkong]

23 hours ago, moe666 said:

This guy wasn't a tourist he was in transit and not allowed to enter Thailand. The Chinese seem to think they can come and go as they see fit

The Chinese guy was detained in the area prior to immigration clearance. His passport was also being detained and not returned to him so even if he is out of the detention room, he has nowhere to hide or escape because his passport is not with him. Don muang airport is not huge and there are loads of cctv around. The Chinese may be uncouth but there is no reason for the lack of professionalism on the security gorilla especially in the international airport.  

[Ctkong]

12 hours ago, eddie61 said:

I think it is highly inappropriate for a Thai to raise a hand against a Chinese Sahib....they come here to bring order and prosperity to the colonies. It smacks of mutiny, I say!!!!

Not all Chinese are Sahibs and not all Thais are serfs! 

[Spidey]

47 minutes ago, tropo said:

This thread has just been a good vehicle for the large anti-Chinese brigade to get their 2 cent's worth in.

Pray do tell, what has been your personal experience of the mainland Chinese brigade?

[Ctkong]

12 hours ago, animalmagic said:

I hope the Chinese individual is also fully investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law in terms of airport security and immigration offences that he committed.  Why should Thailand have to apologise as it was the behaviour of the Chinese tourist that caused the altercation?  I freely admit that the security guard should not have reacted in that manner, but the incident would not have happened if the Chinese tourist had not breached airport security.  Quite a touchy subject these days.

Can a person be prosecuted in Thailand  if he had not legally pass immigration and entered Thai soil ? 

[worgeordie]

4 hours ago, tropo said:

The Chinese are way down the list of arrogant nationalities. Try (airport security) taking a swing at a Brit, American or Australian (for example) and see what dramas that would cause. Insert any nationality you like - most would have equalled or surpassed the drama you witnessed here. 

 

There's an anti-Chinese sentiment in every one of your posts that I've read here so far... what did they do to you?

Mr. Tropo, i make one remark about a Chinese,who if he had behave himself

and stayed in the detention area, he would not have been confronted by

the guard,i am not anti Chinese,in the past have done a lot of business with

Chinese,HK and Taiwan companies ,got on well with them, that said the Chinese

tourists that are all over the World,are pushy,and some arrogant,and some of

there habits leave a lot to be desired,that's not racist,just a fact. 

regards worgeordie

[Ctkong]

12 hours ago, SammyT said:

 

Agreed. It says something for the PRC citizens general behaviour that I've seen Thai staff from almost every major airline that operates out of Chiang Mai know enough Mandarin to tell them not to push in and get to the back of the line. Hell, even the sandwich maker in Subway Phuket Airport knew how to tell them in their own tongue not to push in. 

 

Queueing and social graces just don't appear to be part of the Chinese tourist's portfolio. I've got ex-pat friends over here with a couple of young blonde kids, naturally they attract a lot of attention from Asian people. Thais in my experience are really polite and respectful with the kids. Chinese people will literally come up when we're out and dinner and try to sit down at our table or pick the kids up so they can take photos and show the kids to their friends. They don't take it too well when told no, either. 

I figure the Chinese you met are the country bumpkins of china. They may not be versed in the ways of western culture and manners. I have many business contacts with Chinese bosses in major Chinese cities and most carry themselves really well. Majority of the Chinese you seen in chiangmai or pattaya are from towns and villages and not from cities like Shanghai or Beijing. Savvy folks from these cities do not visit these places nowadays. They had did that and done that. Paris and New York are their new playground.  My dear Chinese friend once visited me in Bangkok and remarked that Bangkok has not changed much for the past ten years ... a reminder that China has progressed by leaps and bounds.

 

[Russell17au]

9 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Mr. Tropo, i make one remark about a Chinese,who if he had behave himself

and stayed in the detention area, he would not have been confronted by

the guard,i am not anti Chinese,in the past have done a lot of business with

Chinese,HK and Taiwan companies ,got on well with them, that said the Chinese

tourists that are all over the World,are pushy,and some arrogant,and some of

there habits leave a lot to be desired,that's not racist,just a fact. 

regards worgeordie

But the same could be said about a lot of tourist that come from western countries as well. But the Chinese guy leaving the unsecured detention room does not give the security guard the right to assault him, there were 2 security guards that could have held one arm each and taken him back to the detention room and secured the door. No assault needed

[Ctkong]

11 hours ago, SammyT said:

 

This is one of the best things I've ever read.

 

DMK reminds me of an old mental hospital, especially the international terminal. Last time I flew out of there internationally (18 months or so ago), the "foodcourt" was about 60 square metres in size, with 400 people trying to get food. Ugly paint peeling off the walls, decaying lino and carpet. If Thai airports were part of a family, it seems Suvarnabhumi Airport is like the child who is the captain of the football team and gets all the love and praise from the parents, whereas DMK is the red-headed stepchild that is forgotten about and gets nothing. 

DMK is the red headed step child who has grown to be a beautiful lady .. have you seen the upgrading that has been done recently? I would say it is splendid now. Lots of restaurants that can rival SVN. 

DMK is after all a low cost air terminal for budget airlines.

[Ctkong]

10 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Their boats can sink.

They can be filmed at shrimp buffet restaurants.

They can be slapped at airports.

Will it stop the Chinese for coming?

i doubt it probably in their home country things are worse.

You must not have been to china much because china is not what you think it is. Chinese travel to Thailand because 

1) they are curious about the outside world and Thailand is the closest country to them 

2) Thai Chinese culture is similar to their southern China culture

3) Thailand is a relatively cheap country to travel 

4) they are not seasoned overseas traveller.

5) they are not certainly not worse for wear in their own country. 

 

[The manic]

1 hour ago, tropo said:

I cannot find one video of an Aussie (or American, or Brit) being punched in the head by an airport security officer. My comments were purely based on what I know of the nationalities I mentioned. They would not take it sitting down. Wouldn't it be interesting to see a Thai tourist being punched in the head by a Chinese airport security officer in China?

 

Saying "Chinese tourists are obnoxious" (implying all, as you haven't qualified it with "some" or "many") is actually a very obnoxious statement in its own right... it's just more anti-Chinese sentiment to keep the main theme of the thread rolling along.

https://asiancorrespondent.com/2018/05/chinese-tourists-behaving-badly-what-can-be-done/

[Russell17au]

2 minutes ago, The manic said:

https://asiancorrespondent.com/2018/05/chinese-tourists-behaving-badly-what-can-be-done/

But you can go back through the archives of TVF and you will find reports of American, Russian, British, Australian and in fact any nationality tourists acting badly, It is not only the Chinese.

[Ctkong]

9 hours ago, Ks45672 said:

 

Where are they all hiding? 

The bkk bar scene is dead and pattaya is not much better

Even khao San Road is a shell of its former self

Thailand is not solely BK bar scene, pattaya or khao san. The type of visitors are different nowadays... Thailand has progressed economically and this has cascaded down to outlying provinces which are also growing economIcally. I have been coming almost monthly to Thailand for past 30 years for 2 weeks each trip and seen the changes with my own eyes.

[The manic]

 

[The manic]

7 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

But you can go back through the archives of TVF and you will find reports of American, Russian, British, Australian and in fact any nationality tourists acting badly, It is not only the Chinese.

Not with same consistency over such a short period of time.  Please find me an example of farangs stoning a kangeroo to death. 

[Ctkong]

9 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

At some point in the not too distant future the hoards of Chinese tourists that visit these shores will realise that like the rest of us they are not welcome, yes I am well aware that he was denied entry for various reasons, but I stand by my comment about all of us, whether we are tourists or expats, they still don't want us here. 

That is so true. Why would thai people want outsiders to come to their country , enjoy their islands, xxxx their girls, lord over them when THEY are supposed to enjoy all the fruits of the country. Who would want to be the serfs for the Sahibs? 

One day when tourism is considered not so big an earner anymore, Thais will want Thailand for themselves and not welcome visitors.

 

[Ctkong]

8 hours ago, leafmould said:

I gave a Chinese guy a slap once in the line waiting at immigration, he walked past me to get in front. Only a slap on his arm with my passport but loud enough to shock him and move him back. Seems from what I've seen many Chinese think others are below them and rules do not apply. More in the case off road traffic, immigration etc than my case. 

I have seen many a time that the Chinese person who jump to the front is trying to join his ‘group’ as he is fearful of what the IO may ask him especially if he can’t speak English or Thai.safety in numbers.... maybe that is the case .

[tumama]

On 9/29/2018 at 8:06 AM, hansnl said:

And what about the Chinese?

Thailand has to bow backwards for a guy making trouble because he is refused entry, and the guard will lose his job?

Shameful.

 

So in essence you are saying because you don't like Chinese people anyone should just be allowed to bitch slap them? I kinda like that, I don't like Americans, does it mean I can head butt them too?

[Ctkong]

6 hours ago, Ks45672 said:

Cattle prod would be adequate for Chinese 

Let us take a step back and read some of the posts that appear on this thread. It reflects upon the person you are becoming... 

Some chinese may be uncouth or boorish but this reflected from  their social and economic background. Do you think your ancestors were all angels .?

[Ctkong]

7 hours ago, Lampang2 said:

Better apologize quick as hell.
Thailand belongs to China.
Someone failed to inform immigration about this.


Skickat från min SM-N950F via Tapatalk
 

Yes.  Thailand belongs to China  but only to wealthy China . This Chinese guy is not! 

[Ctkong]

7 hours ago, cms22 said:

I work across ASEAN and I come and go at Thai airports all the time (about four times a month). I can speak Thai quite well and see/hear Thai officials at the airports speaking terribly about foreigners so frequently (sadly, this seems apparent more in Thailand than other countries in the region, where the airport staff are generally much more respectful than Thai airport staff). I have come to realise that this is a 'Thai thing': A general lack of respect for foreigners and an arrogance that, generally speaking, causes them to look down on all foreigners. Sorry for the statement but that's what I see.

This is so true! Very observant of you. Thais are more talkative at work. 

[tumama]

2 minutes ago, Ctkong said:

Yes.  Thailand belongs to China  but only to wealthy China . This Chinese guy is not! 

 

Right. China is the country that has hundreds of military bases across the world and constantly meddles and overthrows democratically elected governments. I want what you guys are smoking. 

 

Now let's get back on topic to discuss police brutality. 

[Ctkong]

8 hours ago, tropo said:

Probably the guard hates Chinese people and used this as an excuse to take a swing at one. We often see this in the streets (Thai bouncers belting the living daylights out of foreigners), but it shouldn't be part of a security guard's job description. There's a lot of anti-Chinese sentiment in this thread. It seems like more than a few members would also like to take a swing at one too...

Tropo, I am one too. 

I mean I am of Chinese descent. Not Chinese bashers. ????

[mommysboy]

That was such a slow, wide haymaker that I don't think it can be construed as a genuine attempt at a strike.

[tropo]

56 minutes ago, Ctkong said:

7 hours ago, Ks45672 said:

Cattle prod would be adequate for Chinese 

Let us take a step back and read some of the posts that appear on this thread. It reflects upon the person you are becoming... 

Some chinese may be uncouth or boorish but this reflected from  their social and economic background. Do you think your ancestors were all angels .?

You missed a few extremely racist offerings from Ks45672 posted earlier in this thread but were deleted by mods. You caught that one before it was deleted.

Edited September 30, 2018 by tropo

[tropo]

2 hours ago, Spidey said:

Pray do tell, what has been your personal experience of the mainland Chinese brigade?

As a Pattaya resident, I have no problems whatsoever with Chinese tourists. I haven't been to mainland China, but I also had no problems in Hong Kong. Pray do tell - what's your problem? 

[tropo]

1 hour ago, The manic said:

https://asiancorrespondent.com/2018/05/chinese-tourists-behaving-badly-what-can-be-done/

Do you have a comprehension problem? The comment I responded to was that all Chinese are obnoxious. 

 

There are plenty of misbehaved individuals of all nationalities.

[elgenon]

Sounds like it is good for Chinese tourism as seen from other tourists' perspective. If you get my drift.

[rayinkrabi]

To be honest, from the limited video seen it seems the security chap was quite restrained.  He obviously 'lost it' for a second or two when he swung at the Chinese bloke but appeared to quickly realise his mistake and simply held his arm up as a sign for him to keep his distance. 

 

The Chinese bloke did indeed look agitated & somewhat aggressive after being pulled up so was lucky to be handled that 'lightly' imo.

 

As already said on this thread, we can't judge anything without the full facts, but on the face of it it seems extremely harsh and unnecessary for him (and others) to lose their jobs over this.

[Farrows3399]

The Thai guard thinks about as much of these Chinese male tourists as I do. By the way Ray, you need some work on your right.