enkiki Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 My friend is living in a building where some police officers came in the main office and asking condo management to submit a list of all foreigners living in the building plus a copy of their passports by end of the month. Now, there a sign in every elevators asking all foreigners to come in, register and submit a copy of passport... What are your thoughts? ???? Personally I don't have any issues with this but is this legal first? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elviajero Posted October 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2018 Yes it’s legal. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, elviajero said: Yes it’s legal. How do you know this? Did you call his local immigration office? @OP: Could be legal, if you want to be sure you can call the respective immigration office (or police station) and ask if they really made this request. Edited October 18, 2018 by jackdd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samsensam Posted October 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2018 my condo has a copy of my passport and has to record and submit details of all foreigners living here to the police, it has been happening it for years, as i'm here legally i have absolutely no issue with this. i believe it is common practice and maybe a legal requirement for condo owners to do this? a friend who owns a guest house told me guest houses and hotels have to record and submit details of guests to the police every night. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post champers Posted October 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2018 Things would be a whole lot easier if expats could be micro-chipped, so the Thai authorities could trace anybody and everybody at their convenience. 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PoorSucker Posted October 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2018 4 hours ago, jackdd said: How do you know this? Did you call his local immigration office? @OP: Could be legal, if you want to be sure you can call the respective immigration office (or police station) and ask if they really made this request. It's the TM30 report they are asking for. It's basically a request to flush out overstayed foreigner, criminals and landlords not paying taxes on rental income. If you have your papers in order, don't worry. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, jackdd said: How do you know this? Did you call his local immigration office? @OP: Could be legal, if you want to be sure you can call the respective immigration office (or police station) and ask if they really made this request. Given the reporting laws, why would you think that it would be unlawful for the police to request information of foreigners in their area! The local police station are supposed to keep a record of every foreigner living in their area. Under the law we (the foreigners) are supposed to report to the local police station within 24 hours of arrival, but it's not enforced. These days immigration are supposed to regularly update the local police with a list of expats living in their area. The local police have been more active -- albeit inconstantly -- in updating their records since the Bangkok bombing. And no doubt some stations will be trying to impress BJ, or cover the backsides. Edited October 18, 2018 by elviajero 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred345 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Where is this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enkiki Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Agreed with elviajero , when I was in China, I had to report to the local police station within .. x (forgot the #) days of arrival 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunBENQ Posted October 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2018 14 hours ago, champers said: Things would be a whole lot easier if expats could be micro-chipped, so the Thai authorities could trace anybody and everybody at their convenience. Don't help them with ideas after the ingenious "foreigner SIM card" has not been heard of for long 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stanleycoin Posted October 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2018 Makes me feel like the true guest, I always thought we were in Thailand. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 They just nosey and got nothing better to do.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertson468 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 17 hours ago, jackdd said: How do you know this? Did you call his local immigration office? @OP: Could be legal, if you want to be sure you can call the respective immigration office (or police station) and ask if they really made this request. I have just left Koh Samui Immigration Office this morning and saw a notice on their wall, informing all accommodation rental owners that they are obliged to submit a copy of Guests Passports together with info on their stay. So yes it is legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ulic Posted October 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2018 I shake my head. Immigration has at least 150 photocopies of the information page of my passport already from numerous residence certificates, extensions of stays etc...ect...etc...I have no idea how one more passport photocopy will help them. Mother nature must be furious with Thailand thinking about the millions of trees cut and processed into paper for these bullshit requirements. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I have two residences: own a condo in Jomtien and lease one in Bangkok. Will this sort of checking up lead to any problems? I imagine a few others might be in similar circumstances.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ulic said: I shake my head. Immigration has at least 150 photocopies of the information page of my passport already from numerous residence certificates, extensions of stays etc...ect...etc...I have no idea how one more passport photocopy will help them. Mother nature must be furious with Thailand thinking about the millions of trees cut and processed into paper for these bullshit requirements. Think there is someone making big money on recycled paper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stgrhe Posted October 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2018 Well, as always there are many interesting replies. There is actually no obligation for a condo management to keep passport copies or, for that matter, report aliens staying in the condominium using the TM30 form. In a condominium that obligation belongs to the respective condo owner. This is what the Immigration Act states on the subject matter. "Section 38: The house–master, the owner or the possessor of the residence, or the hotel manager where the alien, receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed, must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours, dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. If there is no Immigration Office located in that area, the local police official for that area must be notified." 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbi1 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Emdog said: I have two residences: own a condo in Jomtien and lease one in Bangkok. Will this sort of checking up lead to any problems? I imagine a few others might be in similar circumstances.. You will need to submit it to both of those condo offices a copy of your passport and copy of lease agreement. That's the notice that my condo is asking for all peeps living in the building. It's not just foreigners but they request that for Thai peeps too. Edited October 19, 2018 by bbi1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobTH Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, bbi1 said: You will need to submit it to both of those condo offices a copy of your passport and copy of lease agreement. That's the notice that my condo is asking for all peeps living in the building. It's not just foreigners but they request that for Thai peeps too. peeps ???? Edited October 19, 2018 by BobTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Yes it is legal. In fact where I live in Isaan I was told to report to the local police station and register my accommodation address and passport details. These details were also on record at our Immigration Office for visa purposes. All Thai hotels I have used also copy my passport when checking in and this is placed on record for police and immigration inspection if required. It is the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, stgrhe said: Well, as always there are many interesting replies. There is actually no obligation for a condo management to keep passport copies or, for that matter, report aliens staying in the condominium using the TM30 form. In a condominium that obligation belongs to the respective condo owner. This is what the Immigration Act states on the subject matter. "Section 38: The house–master, the owner or the possessor of the residence, or the hotel manager where the alien, receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed, must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours, dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. If there is no Immigration Office located in that area, the local police official for that area must be notified." So when my Kid comes to visit I have to submit a TM30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemans35 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I owned a guesthouse for a few years and I can tell you for sure it has been a requirement since 2016 for the owner/manager of this type of business to submit a list of names of Foreigners to the Immigration Office. There was a specific form for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German farang Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Nothing new, experienced the same already 4 years ago in BKK as I still lived as visitor in my GF's condo. At the time I refused to give her landlord any copy of passport or even my name! Everything nice ???????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 20 hours ago, champers said: Things would be a whole lot easier if expats could be micro-chipped, so the Thai authorities could trace anybody and everybody at their convenience. I bet they would if they could. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 5 hours ago, stanleycoin said: Makes me feel like the true guest, I always thought we were in Thailand. Guest?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenscot Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 How can I request the police to visit my condo. Is there a task force that can be contacted. Many condos in pattaya have been taken over with hotel.com airbnb holiday guests. Doubt if any of then has a completed tm30.. The illegal hotel owner taking cash in the carpark and taking it straight out of the country. Well done to the police for finally taking action. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyMan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 21 hours ago, samsensam said: my condo has a copy of my passport and has to record and submit details of all foreigners living here to the police, it has been happening it for years, as i'm here legally i have absolutely no issue with this. i believe it is common practice and maybe a legal requirement for condo owners to do this? a friend who owns a guest house told me guest houses and hotels have to record and submit details of guests to the police every night. Common practice in any country I've ever visited or lived in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyMan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Kenscot said: How can I request the police to visit my condo. Is there a task force that can be contacted. Many condos in pattaya have been taken over with hotel.com airbnb holiday guests. Doubt if any of then has a completed tm30.. The illegal hotel owner taking cash in the carpark and taking it straight out of the country. Well done to the police for finally taking action. I was under the impression that subletting/AirBnb is illegal in Thailand. Does anyone know if this is indeed correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Nyezhov said: So when my Kid comes to visit I have to submit a TM30? Someone is supposed to report them. If you are the property owner, or house-master (unlikely), or possessor of the property then it’s down to you. But not all offices enforce this law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenscot Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Begs a question why are holiday makers allowed to declare they will be staying in a private residential condominium at the point of entry. Obviously friends and family can be given appropriate documents to support their visit. When my family visits I make juristic aware giving passport copies etc. As soon as possible I also complete a tm30 at jomtiem immigration although sometimes difficult depending on arriving times. Tiredness of traveller and meeting immigration opening hours. Never had any real problems. It is the ones that flaunt condo rules and thai laws that need to worry...rightly so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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