Pompeo says U.S. trying to convince China 'to behave like a normal nation'

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Pompeo says U.S. trying to convince China 'to behave like a normal nation'

By David Brunnstrom

 

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo speaks to reporters during a news briefing at the State Department in Washington, U.S., October 23, 2018. REUTERS/Cathal McNaughton

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Wednesday the United States was engaged in a "multi-pronged effort ... to convince China to behave like a normal nation on commerce" and respect international law after Washington indicted 10 Chinese nationals for stealing aviation secrets.

 

Speaking in a radio interview, Pompeo called China's behaviour in stealing intellectual property "inappropriate" and "not consistent with being a superpower or a leader in the world."

 

"Stealing another country’s intellectual property, something China’s been engaged in to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars, is just something China has to figure out a way to stop," he told the Brian Kilmeade Show.

 

Pompeo also told the Laura Ingraham radio show that over the long term, China was probably the biggest national security challenge facing the United States and the Trump administration was pushing back "on all fronts."

 

"Where the semiconductor piece fits in is it’s part of a mosaic of our strategic effort to push back against this continued Chinese effort," he said.

 

"It is a multipronged effort on behalf of all of the United States Government, at the President’s direction, to convince China to behave like a normal nation on commerce and with respect to the rules of international law," he said.

 

A U.S. indictment unsealed on Tuesday said Chinese intelligence officers conspired with hackers and company insiders to break into computer systems of private firms to steal information on a turbo fan engine used in commercial jetliners.

 

It was the third major corporate espionage-related case involving Chinese intelligence officers brought by the Justice Department since last month and comes at a time when Washington is embroiled in a major trade war with Beijing.

 

The United States and China have slapped tit-for-tat tariffs on hundreds of billions of dollars of each other's goods over the past few months, sparked by U.S. President Donald Trump's demands for an end to alleged Chinese intellectual property theft, deep cuts to industrial subsidies, and action to correct a major U.S. trade deficit with China.

 

Early this month, U.S. Vice President Mike Pence intensified Washington's pressure campaign against Beijing by accusing China of "malign" efforts to undermine Trump ahead of next Tuesday's congressional elections and reckless military actions in the disputed South China Sea, a major Asian trade route.

 

China has rejected the charges.

 

(Reporting by David Brunnstrom; Editing by James Dalgleish)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-11-01

[sirineou]

9 minutes ago, webfact said:

Pompeo says U.S. trying to convince China 'to behave like a normal nation'

And the Chinese replied "just as soon as your president behaves like a normal person" 

[Carib]

Like a normal nation?? Pffff  That's a a bit rich coming from the US, normal to their model?

Please give me a break. 

[poanoi]

its not like usa didnt steal rocket tech and all other kinds of tech from germans...

[stevenl]

For once I agree with this administration. But it would have been so much better and effective to have done this in coordination with the European allies.

[smedly]

you decided to use China's cheap sweat shop factories to manufacture hitec goods for decades - they stole copied the designs and technology, you empowered them - you enabled them - now what ?

[smedly]

11 minutes ago, stevenl said:

For once I agree with this administration. But it would have been so much better and effective to have done this in coordination with the European allies.

hmmm, the world (as I predicted) is posturing for something big, I said on here several years ago that China and Russia would have a coming together and was laughed at - who was performing joint military exorcises not so long ago ?, who supplied N. Korea with the Nuclear ability and expertise ?, next will be Pakistan in focus and we will see how things shape up after that, then we have Germany/EU total reliance on Russia for energy, pretty soon the posturing will end and we will see who lines up with who, the problem with human history is that it has a habit of repeating itself and IMO the outcome is inevitable 

[Damrongsak]

11 minutes ago, poanoi said:

its not like usa didnt steal rocket tech and all other kinds of tech from germans...

Well, there was a war.  And the Germans were responsible for killing somewhere on the order of 6-17 million people. 

[YetAnother]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

to convince China to behave like a normal nation

china isnt a normal nation; just ask em; the fact that a leading usa official says such foolish things publicly makes us all wonder if the right people are in the right jobs

[Thian]

In Holland we even subsidise chinese students to come to our universities where they get taught the latest techniques so they can go back home to use it against us....

 

No need to steal it, we'll teach them from taxpayers' money...

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, poanoi said:

its not like usa didnt steal rocket tech and all other kinds of tech from germans...

After the war the US got offered German rocket scientists the opportunity to work in the USA and with it the chance for some of them to escape war crimes prosecution. That may have been immoral, but it's hardly theft.

[anon537687643]

Comical! The crazy Trumps Globe trotting Pimp telling other countries to behave “normal “ !


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[Brunolem]

2 hours ago, Carib said:

Like a normal nation?? Pffff  That's a a bit rich coming from the US, normal to their model?

Please give me a break. 

Posters above didn't read the full sentence, which is: to behave like a normal nation ON COMMERCE!!!

 

It appears that Pompeo is lucid enough to understand that he doesn't live in a fully normal nation...

 

[Brunolem]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

hmmm, the world (as I predicted) is posturing for something big

 

then we have Germany/EU total reliance on Russia for energy,

 

lf and IMO the outcome is inevitable 

Yes, no, and yes...

 

You are far from alone making these predictions...they have been all over the place for quite some time, dating back to the late 90s with the book "the fourth turning" which appears to be as prescient as "1984" was.

 

We are heading at full speed, eyes wide shut, toward a mix of both books predictions...

 

No, Europe is not totally reliant on Russian energy.

It is reliant on Russian gas, which is a limited part of its energy mix.

 

Trump wrongly said that Germany was totally dependent on Russia, and no one facing him reacted because people don't have that kind of data in mind.

 

The fact is that Germany imports about 70% of its gas from Russia, YET gas is only 23% of German energy mix...which means that it relies on Russia for only 15% of its energy...far from being totally dependent!

 

Finally, yes the outcome is inevitable.

 

When, in the past, have we seen opposing powers massing troops close to each other borders, engaging in more and more provocative military "exercices" without ultimately going to war?

 

As a matter of fact, both Russia and China are now openly saying that they are preparing for war!

The US doesn't have to prepare itself since it is constantly waging war.

 

As usual, people (especially Europeans) are in full denial mode, like they were all the way unti! 1939, even though it had been obvious for many years that Germany was preparing for war...

 

[IAMHERE]

Democracy isn't normal or there'd be a lot more of it and it wouldn't take wars to get one started. Probably if Democracy were normal it'd work better too.

[Tug]

Mr Pompeo with all due respect please consider the source

[Johnnyngai]

41 minutes ago, car720 said:

One group who think that they are the centre of the world telling another group who know they are the centre of the world, to behave. 

Former cave raiders  vs.  cavemen.   

[quandow]

3 hours ago, poanoi said:

its not like usa didnt steal rocket tech and all other kinds of tech from germans...

Didn't the US also steal some SCIENTISTS?

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

so much better and effective to have done this in coordination with the European allies.

Much like a 'normal nation' would behave.

[Srikcir]

49 minutes ago, quandow said:

Didn't the US also steal some SCIENTISTS?

No, they sought asylum ????

[spidermike007]

It is the way the Chinese government does business. Boeing signed a contract with them years ago, that turns over most of their technology to the Chinese within a specific period of time. It was do that, or not get the huge contract. You cannot just lecture a nation, and expect it to change. This coming from a nation led by one of the biggest goons of the past century. China is bending alot of rules. But, is this how you get them to change? Is this how you negotiate with them? Let us never forget. Trump is not much of a negotiator. He negotiated five companies out of business. He left behind billions of dollars in debt. Who paid for that debt? Not him. When it really comes down to it, Trump cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag.

[PremiumLane]

So China can instigate coups in other countries, influence elections and media in other countries, start illegal wars, push economic policies that cripple countries, sell off other countries assets to US corporations etc. etc. etc.?

 

That is the normal behavior of the USA 

Edited November 1, 2018 by PremiumLane

[Brunolem]

20 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is the way the Chinese government does business.

On top of that, American companies were never forced to move their production to China.

It is their greedy shortsighted CEOs who considered that the deal (your know how against our slave workers) was good for them!

And by the way, most of these companies are still not complaining...it is the US government that is complaining against a deficit created by American companies, not by China!

 

But Trump doesn't understand that, on the contrary!

He imposes sanctions on multiple imports from China, while carefully avoiding to include Apple, one of the worst offenders!!!

Not only Apple produces in China, but it also carefully avoids to pay billions in taxes by stashing its profits in tax havens!

 

Finally, Trump and his henchmen have probably never heard of the concept of (not) losing face, which is fundamental in Chinese culture.

If he wants something from them, it has to look like they offered it, and certainly not that he got it by force and humiliation.

[Morch]

5 hours ago, sirineou said:

And the Chinese replied "just as soon as your president behaves like a normal person" 

 

China's ways predate Trump's involvement in politics by many years. And it's not as if China's leadership is all that great either. Ask Winnie-the-Pooh.

[Stocky]

5 hours ago, stevenl said:

in coordination with the European allies.

The US seems hell bent on not having any of those anymore.

[Morch]

2 minutes ago, Stocky said:

The US seems hell bent on not having any of those anymore.

 

Trump, maybe. I don't think the US, as a whole, favors all of his nonsense.

[CALSinCM]

"Normal nation" means US vassal-state.

[poanoi]

3 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Yes, no, and yes...

 

You are far from alone making these predictions...they have been all over the place for quite some time, dating back to the late 90s with the book "the fourth turning" which appears to be as prescient as "1984" was.

 

We are heading at full speed, eyes wide shut, toward a mix of both books predictions...

 

No, Europe is not totally reliant on Russian energy.

It is reliant on Russian gas, which is a limited part of its energy mix.

 

Trump wrongly said that Germany was totally dependent on Russia, and no one facing him reacted because people don't have that kind of data in mind.

 

The fact is that Germany imports about 70% of its gas from Russia, YET gas is only 23% of German energy mix...which means that it relies on Russia for only 15% of its energy...far from being totally dependent!

 

Finally, yes the outcome is inevitable.

 

When, in the past, have we seen opposing powers massing troops close to each other borders, engaging in more and more provocative military "exercices" without ultimately going to war?

 

As a matter of fact, both Russia and China are now openly saying that they are preparing for war!

The US doesn't have to prepare itself since it is constantly waging war.

 

As usual, people (especially Europeans) are in full denial mode, like they were all the way unti! 1939, even though it had been obvious for many years that Germany was preparing for war...

 

let me think, a, yes, when both sides had nukes, ever since 1949,

us will never attack anyone that can fling a nuke back

[Brunolem]

11 minutes ago, poanoi said:

 

us will never attack anyone that can fling a nuke back

Unfortunately, there are quite a few so-called neocons who are convinced that the US could win a "limited" nuclear war!

And one of them is constantly whispering in the president's ear...

 

[pedro01]

So China should start bombing the Middle East?