Anyone else never feel safe in the UK?

[hydraides]

Lets be honest the UK sucks big time in many ways

 

-High train fares/Extremely high cost of rent

-Crap weather

-Long winded job applications

 

Another thing about the UK, whenever I'm walking at night and I have to walk past another man or group of people, My guard is always up and always am thinking "are theses guys going to try and mug me"? It must be a lot worse for women if they are alone also

 

I never feel like that here In Thailand, maybe it is stupidly to think like that though as you can be attacked anywhere.........but in the UK , most people you walk by, you get the feeling, if given the chance they would attack you

 

 

Edited December 16, 2018 by hydraides

[Kieran00001]

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in the UK , most people you walk by, you get the feeling, if given the chance they would attack you

 

Sorry, but that is you, I don't feel afraid walking past anyone in the UK.

[impulse]

Just because I feel safe or don't feel safe doesn't mean I am safe or I am not safe.  The truth is that I never know how close I am to being mugged or worse, especially in a land where I don't know the history, the culture, or the language.

 

Gotta look up the statistics and drill down to account for factors like lifestyle, activities, location, etc.

 

I could look at gun violence statistics and convince myself I'm doomed back home in the USA, but when I drill down to account for my economic status, my lack of criminal activity and the fact that I don't chase after other guys' wives inside the Pink Flamingo Lounge, I have about a 99.99% chance of living long enough that heart disease or old age will kill me as opposed to a nut with a gun.

[madmen]

Good post OP and the chance of being mugged is 100 times In multiples compared to Thailand. The only mugging here is Harry the hump inviting 2 Pataya lady boys back to his room.. And we all know what comes next. (no pun)

[AlexRich]

A great deal depends on where you live and where you hang out. But I’ve never felt threatened by anyone in the UK, being attacked is a low probability outcome.

[madmen]

A great deal depends on where you live and where you hang out. But I’ve never felt threatened by anyone in the UK, being attacked is a low probability outcome.

With 77000 robberies in a year. It's only a matter of time

https://www.statista.com/statistics/303349/robberies-in-england-and-wales-y-on-y/

How many robberies against westerner in Thailand? Very very few in fact even one can fill 10 pages of thai bashing [emoji16]

[Iforbach]

I was in uk last year ..i just feel a bit uneasy when it gets dark and few loonies come out ..how ever day drinker so ..ok but guess 4 me 60 plus ..i do feel safer in thailand but again each to their own 

[roo860]

Lets be honest the UK sucks big time in many ways
 
-High train fares/Extremely high cost of rent
-Crap weather
-Long winded job applications
 
Another thing about the UK, whenever I'm walking at night and I have to walk past another man or group of people, My guard is always up and always am thinking "are theses guys going to try and mug me"? It must be a lot worse for women if they are alone also
 
I never feel like that here In Thailand, maybe it is stupidly to think like that though as you can be attacked anywhere.........but in the UK , most people you walk by, you get the feeling, if given the chance they would attack you
 
 

Where in the UK,

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[helloagain]

I came back from uk 3 days ago. Well food is so cheap 685g daddies sauce 41 baht or £1. Bisto u cant get here for months so so cheap and its double size. Mini cooper s 28000 to £30000 here 3 to 3.5m baht £70000 up. I bought back a doe mixer with stand argos £76 at central over £200. Crap weather i agree but here too hot. Massage here 1000 baht uk 4000 baht 55555 no i did not my wifes 14th visit. Here crap beer and i go once in 3 weeks cos i dont want to sit next to a loser trying to kill himself to get cancer. Uk lovely bitter ale so we went everyday and enjoyed whitebate and a log fire without the chain smokers. But my life is here and has been for 15 years after retiring at 50. I feel safer in uk. Here 6th in the world for death on roads. Too many have guns here. Too aggressive here even retirees too quick to push and shove. 

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[HAKAPALITA]

I dont feel as safe anywhere as i did when i was younger. i could beat muggers up, good fun back in the day. Now i have to shoot them in the Face.????.

[Chassa]

English food is cheaper in England...Well, Well!

 

We'll see what happens to the Mine Cooper price after Brexit!

 

[Dogbarker]

Yes , in many parts of the UK and specifically in the evening I am frightened to go into many arras. Having lived in the north of England for 30+ years I would not venture into some of the big towns at night .. During the day in outlying estates I also felt uneasy. Some of is due to the ethnic enclaves that are established and the reputation perhaps more than reality. 8 years ago I moved to east Anglia countryside. Pretty safe feeling, a bit rowdy and cross the road from people in certain areas .. Example Boston Linc's. 

 Thailand rural and most city areas ( outside certain walking bar areas )the biggest problem with safety are packs of soi dogs ......I frequently visit Malaysia and find a stark contrast to Thailand...  Surprising.

[steve187]

8 hours ago, hydraides said:

-High train fares/Extremely high cost of rent

-Crap weather

-Long winded job applications

train fares are high, so planning ahead is required, or flying can be cheaper,

rent i think is well in line with wages compared to Thailand. depends on the area,

crap weather well that's the UK,

long winded job applications well is only once now and again, not something you do every day

feeling unsafe, that's down to you and the places where you walk, walk the back streets of pattaya late at night!

[NCC1701A]

8 hours ago, hydraides said:

My guard is always up

you just described Los Angeles, California. Lived there my whole life before coming to Thailand at 58.

 

and I lived in a very good part of town. never fell like that in Thailand. and I walk at night in Bangkok till sometimes 3 or 4 in the morning and have been 32,000 kilometers on my motorcycle all over Thailand alone and I can't speak Thai and zero problems.   

[thaiguzzi]

31 minutes ago, helloagain said:

I came back from uk 3 days ago. Well food is so cheap 685g daddies sauce 41 baht or £1. Bisto u cant get here for months so so cheap and its double size. Mini cooper s 28000 to £30000 here 3 to 3.5m baht £70000 up. I bought back a doe mixer with stand argos £76 at central over £200. Crap weather i agree but here too hot. Massage here 1000 baht uk 4000 baht 55555 no i did not my wifes 14th visit. Here crap beer and i go once in 3 weeks cos i dont want to sit next to a loser trying to kill himself to get cancer. Uk lovely bitter ale so we went everyday and enjoyed whitebate and a log fire without the chain smokers. But my life is here and has been for 15 years after retiring at 50.

And breathe out again, slowly & deeply..........

[leither69]

No

[cmsally]

In the little provincial area where my friend lives (that always feels safe), there have been I think it was 15 stabbings over the past 2 months. That is unprecedented, the level of crime used to be close to zero.

[samsensam]

 

let's be honest, the uk is a very safe place to live/visit. as in most countries, thailand included, there are areas of cities/neighbourhoods that it would be inadvisable to visit at certain times.

 

sure, the uk is an expensive country, but then so are all the top economically performing countries.

 

the NHS is a wonderful organisation that guarantees a first class health service for free. the social security system supports millions of those less well off, there is support and help for the dis-advantages and disabled, and, last but not least, when i reach pensionable age i will receive a generous pension for the rest of my days.

 

sure the uk is not perfect but there are worse places to be a citizen of.

[giddyup]

8 hours ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

Sorry, but that is you, I don't feel afraid walking past anyone in the UK.

I imagine it would depend on where you live.

[bert bloggs]

When i am in the UK now visiting my family there ,i feel safe as houses , they live in a lovely town with no immegrants whatsoever , people say hello to me ",havnt seen you for a while" at least 2 years lol ,now my old hometown ,full of immegrants ,very bad at night ,real no go areas ,full of ethnic minorities that have never integrated , open drug dealing , now call me racist if you like ,but facts are facts ,sorry if i offend any of you . .

[bert bloggs]

When i am in the UK now visiting my family there ,i feel safe as houses , they live in a lovely town with no immegrants whatsoever , people say hello to me ",havnt seen you for a while" at least 2 years lol ,now my old hometown ,full of immegrants ,very bad at night ,real no go areas ,full of ethnic minorities that have never integrated , open drug dealing , now call me racist if you like ,but facts are facts ,sorry if i offend any of you . .

[IAMHERE]

6 hours ago, madmen said:

Good post OP and the chance of being mugged is 100 times In multiples compared to Thailand. The only mugging here is Harry the hump inviting 2 Pataya lady boys back to his room.. And we all know what comes next. (no pun)
 

Been a long time since I read about two ladyboys mugging a mug back in his room. In the UK I'm thinking regular guys do their mugging right on the street. I always felt fairly safe while touring the UK, it is the tourist and expats I fear in Thailand.

[SunsetT]

9 minutes ago, cmsally said:

In the little provincial area where my friend lives (that always feels safe), there have been I think it was 15 stabbings over the past 2 months. That is unprecedented, the level of crime used to be close to zero.

This is because the Conservative party have cut police funding, as well as the NHS and Social Care to the bone. I thought a few years back that, on the whole, the British people are law abiding but sooner or later they are going to realise that there are almost zero police out there and that they can literally 'get away with murder'. That is exactly what is happening now.

 

Also Brexit will exacerbate this by handing absolute power back to the rich own-nest-feathering British public schoolboy ruling class who dont give a sh** about the ordinary majority of people in the UK who will be made even poorer by Brexit.

[Brunolem]

Back in the early 70s, when I used to spend a summer month in England to learn the language, it was already dangerous to walk around at night... by that time, the bad guys were the skinheads (nowadays many Englismen are skinheads thanks to fashion... still better having a shaved head than a Boris hairdo). 

 

Today, despite the imams calling for jihad from their Saudi financed and government supported mosques, things are getting better, thanks to the confiscation of all the knives and the mandatory diet of porridge imposed to the population. 

 

Yes, crime is at record high, but it is still low compared with similar underdeveloping countries, such as Mexico, Nigeria or South Africa. 

 

As goes the saying: England is the cleanest dirty shirt... 

[mikeymike100]

Any city or town in the world has safe areas and dangerous areas. Some countries are dangerous to live like Nigeria or DRC.  In general the UK is getting more dangerous if you look at the stats, especially inner cities. The number of fatalities in London thru knife crime and gun crime has gone thru the roof. I would think Bangkok is safer than London, looking at the stats. On the other hand you are probably not going to be ripped of by a London cop.

[mikeymike100]

Any city or town in the world has safe areas and dangerous areas. Some countries are dangerous to live like Nigeria or DRC.  In general the UK is getting more dangerous if you look at the stats, especially inner cities. The number of fatalities in London thru knife crime and gun crime has gone thru the roof. I would think Bangkok is safer than London, looking at the stats. On the other hand you are probably not going to be ripped of by a London cop.

[Cactus99]

Thailand is safer than many places, for walking, shopping taking transport. I lived in Luton for nearly 4 years and you really had to watch yourself. I'm 6'4" and even I was concerned. Worse on soccer game days. 20 and 30 somethings will get drunk and start beating on people for no reason. I never had a problem in Thailand - day or night. I don't hang out in the bars though and avoid dodgy areas and folks.

[ancharee]

10 hours ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

Sorry, but that is you, I don't feel afraid walking past anyone in the UK.

You should try walking down Calder Street in Glasgow, you wouldn't get very far even the police wont go there.

[Surasak]

Only once felt threatened in the UK, that was 14 years ago. Fortunately I was close to a bus stop with a bus approaching, I hopped on and left the maybe problem behind. My last few visits in the past 5 years have been uneventful but that maybe due to the locations I visited?

[robertson468]

Used to do my socialising in the lovely City of York.  Day time was great and many things to do around the City and people by and large quite pleasant.  House Prices, food and beer are horrendous prices.  Spoke to my Friend last week who also does his socialising in UK.  Bought 2 pints of beer in a pub and offered £10 for the beer.  The Bar tender looked at him like he had lost his marbles and he had to stump up over another £1.  Even at the exchange rate of 40=£1 that is equal to 440 baht for two beers - that IS very expensive!  Also, at night felt just a little bit intimidated with the "huddie youth" roaming the streets and woud keep a wary eye on them.  I also find many of the people very over weight, dress quite dull and by and large look quite unhappy with their lot.  Yes cars in the UK are less expensive, but how often to you buy one of them?  I find many things in Thailand are much less expensive, including clothes, food, train journeys, bus trips and there is no Local Government Tax, but hey ho, that might be in the pipe line.  No sorry, Thailand for me is a much better live style and is a good jumping off point to visit the many fascinating Countries in Asia.