retirement extension today at Suphanburi immigration

[tutsiwarrior]

went today for my retirement extension and lo...straightforward, no hassles and successful the first time...I was expecting the worst...I had a marriage extension last year...

 

first to my local K bank where I got the big deposit to get the bank balance confirmation letter and a print out of the last 3 months account activity (note to K bank debit card users, you gotta go in and swap your old card for a new one with a chip because soon the old card won't be accepted at ATMs, a VISA debit card like before)...made the usual photocopies of passport, exit card and current visa and then off we went to the changwat and the IO...

 

at the IO we presented the documents and then the officer made additional copies of previous extension stamps, I've been back and forth between marriage and retirement extensions depending on my circumstances for 16 years...I've got a BKK Bank account that receives my SSA pension and I presented the associated bank book as well all up to date with the most recent deposit but no bank letter...the officer looked at all of it along with the US embassy income affidavit and did a calculation and everything was to her satisfaction for the combo of income and bank deposit to give the required thb800000...although I had bank statements from my UK bank where another private pension is received they weren't asked for...

 

I couldn't believe that things were going so smoothly and the officer assembled everything (about 15 sheets with all the photocopies, her stapler almost didn't get thru it) for the local supervisor to review and sign off for the new extension...the sup turned the sheets over very slowly during her examination of the application and I thought 'uh-oh, I knew this was too good to be true...' but she finally signed the passport stamp and that's all that matters...

 

my wife usually comes with me every year and the IO folks usually do the business with her...but she died about 7 months ago and her daughter stepped up to the plate very admirably, we needed to use her tambien baan and ID card and they accepted my thai DL, yellow book and pink ID for proof of residence purposes...she said that they asked where my wife was and she told them, she even brought the original death certificate...maybe that's why they were so kind...no maps to my house were required and no intimation that the the immigration cops were coming to inspect/intrude which has been reported here by others seeking a retirement extension...

 

btw I was made to sign a number of docs all in thai language that I hadn't seen before with previous retirement extensions...

 

best of luck to everyone during these 'interesting times'... 

 

 

 

Edited December 19, 2018 by tutsiwarrior

[tropo]

2 hours ago, tutsiwarrior said:

btw I was made to sign a number of docs all in thai language that I hadn't seen before with previous retirement extensions...

Did you have any idea of what you were signing? 

[tutsiwarrior]

54 minutes ago, tropo said:

Did you have any idea of what you were signing? 

 

not at all but one does not interrupt a new retirement extension application to seek legal assistance does one? them being immigration folks I figured they were on the 'up and up' and the docs were routine and harmless...if someone goes with an agent to their IO for this purpose they might wanna investigate...

 

on the other hand maybe I just sold my 6 y.o. granddaughter into sex slavery with some scheme that Mr BJ has got planned...'heh, heh, heh...dese falangs are such foolish creatures...'

 

 

 

 

[gk10002000]

29 minutes ago, tutsiwarrior said:

 

not at all but one does not interrupt a new retirement extension application to seek legal assistance does one? them being immigration folks I figured they were on the 'up and up' and the docs were routine and harmless...if someone goes with an agent to their IO for this purpose they might wanna investigate...

 

on the other hand maybe I just sold my 6 y.o. granddaughter into sex slavery with some scheme that Mr BJ has got planned...'heh, heh, heh...dese falangs are such foolish creatures...'

 

 

 

 

So you really signed a bunch of documents that were written in Thai?  Are all other applicants also being asked or directed to do the same thing?

[tutsiwarrior]

Just now, gk10002000 said:

So you really signed a bunch of documents that were written in Thai?  Are all other applicants also being asked or directed to do the same thing?

 

presumably...why would I be singled out for mistreatment?...just sayin' maybe what I signed is part of the 'new regime' and folks should be aware...

 

 

[AGareth2]

condolences

[Boon Mee]

It was your wife's death certificate that tipped the balance. 

RIP Tutsi's wife. 

[gmac]

6 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

So you really signed a bunch of documents that were written in Thai?  Are all other applicants also being asked or directed to do the same thing?

Quite normal I think, I seem to recall being asked to sign a couple of extra forms in Thai when I did my last few extensions.

[wgdanson]

The extra papers are, Ithink, recognition of the overstay penalties and that you will be a good boy whilst in Thailand. In Phitsanulok they were in Thai & English so I signed.

[Bangkok Basha]

This isn't really "only with bank statements". The writer also had an embassy affidavit, which is business as usual. Nothing new here. I'm waiting to see what happens in six months when the last affidavits issued by the U.S. embassy expire, and applicants have ONLY bank statements to work with. 

 

[OJAS]

12 hours ago, tutsiwarrior said:

btw I was made to sign a number of docs all in thai language that I hadn't seen before with previous retirement extensions...

Did they include this pair (which my local office has required me to sign for my past 3 retirement extensions and are in both Thai and English) or similar, by any chance?

 

http://www.interprogram.ku.ac.th/newsite/images/form_acknow_con2stay_new.pdf

 

http://www.interprogram.ku.ac.th/newsite/images/overstay-page-004_Page_1.pdf

 

[rocketdave]

Renewed my retirement visa last week at Pattaya Immigration in Jomtien, had to have my pic taken (took half an hour) letter from bank and all done easy-peasy.

[jimn]

Why on earth do people keep posting nonsence. Its business as usual nothing different here at all. A big song and a dance about getting an extension with just bank statements and then dropped it in casually, "with an income affidavit". It makes the whole thread irrelevant, because without the affidavit, he would not have got the extension, end of storey.

[jimn]

35 minutes ago, rocketdave said:

Renewed my retirement visa last week at Pattaya Immigration in Jomtien, had to have my pic taken (took half an hour) letter from bank and all done easy-peasy.

Thanks for the interesting post. I bet you either had an embassy income letter or 800,000 in the bank. Yes?

[Skeptic7]

Just had my Retirement extension done earlier in the month. Was smooth and uneventful, but still SLOW...lots of waiting, especially for the re-entry stamp but also for my passport back with the renewed extension. Was a madhouse that day, but I digress...

 

Anyway, was not presented with any forms that were only in Thai. Was presented with and signed some that were in Thai, as well as English...so no problem.

[StevieAus]

5 hours ago, Bangkok Basha said:

This isn't really "only with bank statements". The writer also had an embassy affidavit, which is business as usual. Nothing new here. I'm waiting to see what happens in six months when the last affidavits issued by the U.S. embassy expire, and applicants have ONLY bank statements to work with. 

 

That was my view after reading the post I cannot see why he would have a problem, but without the affidavit from the Embassy as you also state a different story perhaps.

[crazyk]

Regarding your home country bank statements, if you're getting them sent to a relative or friend,get them to photograph them with a smartphone & email to you,then you go to an Internet shop,go to your email & ask them to print it out for you,if you're not computer savvy get a friend to set a email address or even the Internet shop,they're usually happy to help, I just got a new setv in KL & had my apartment manager write the letter of residence or proof of address & photo it & email it,same with my uk bank statement,from a relative,I went to the British embassy in KL to pick up my new passport & used their computer to print them out also my eticket for onward flight,the lady there is great,I then walked 10 mins up the road to the thai embassy with my new passport & other documents,jobs a gud un

[LawrenceN]

6 hours ago, Bangkok Basha said:

This isn't really "only with bank statements". The writer also had an embassy affidavit, which is business as usual. Nothing new here. I'm waiting to see what happens in six months when the last affidavits issued by the U.S. embassy expire, and applicants have ONLY bank statements to work with. 

 

You won't have to wait six months. I'm extending next month and planning to do it without the bogus letter from the consulate, since that's what Immigration's own website says. I plan to report here.

Here's the link:

https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_22

[Pattaya46]

5 minutes ago, LawrenceN said:

You won't have to wait six months. I'm extending next month and planning to do it without the bogus letter from the consulate, since that's what Immigration's own website says.  //

The link you give does not specify which "evidence" is accepted.

Here is another link: http://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/base.php?page=faq

and it says :

 

22. // For reasons to stay of Retirement, //

   Evidences showing financial support are as follows; //
- 2.2  In case of having any other income from abroad such as pension, social welfare
  -  Letter from the applicant’s Embassy or consulate in Thailand verifying their pension or other income of the applicant which must not be less than 65,000 Baht per month. 

[jacko45k]

19 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

The link you give does not specify which "evidence" is accepted.

Here is another link: http://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/base.php?page=faq

and it says :

 

22. // For reasons to stay of Retirement, //

   Evidences showing financial support are as follows; //
- 2.2  In case of having any other income from abroad such as pension, social welfare
  -  Letter from the applicant’s Embassy or consulate in Thailand verifying their pension or other income of the applicant which must not be less than 65,000 Baht per month. 

That is what comes up under FAQ... the main regulations details required docs for retirement extension as...

 

1. Application form 2. Copy of applicant’s passport 3. Evidence of income such as a retirement pension, interest or dividends; and/or 4. Account  deposited  (saving / fixed account) certificate issued by a bank in Thailand and a copy of a bankbook 5. Only in the case of Criterion (6), the applicant must submit documents equivalent to Clauses 1-4 stated above.   (I can only get this pop-up to work with Internet Explorer).   Criteria.   The alien: (1) Must have been granted a non-immigrant visa (NON-IM). (2) Must be 50 years of age or over. (3) Must have evidence of having income of no less than Baht 65,000 per month; or (4) On the filing date, the applicant must have account  deposited  (saving / fixed account) in a bank in Thailand of no less than Baht 800,000 for the past three months. For the first year only, the applicant must have proof of a deposit account in which said amount of funds has been maintained for no less than 60 days prior to the filing date; or (5) Must have an annual earning and funds deposited with a bank totaling no less than Baht 800,000 as of the filing date. (6) An alien who entered the Kingdom before October 21, 1998 and has been consecutively permitted to stay in the Kingdom for retirement shall be subject to the following criteria: (a) Must be 60 years of age or over and have an annual fixed income with funds maintained in a bank account for the past three months of no less than Baht 200,000 or have a monthly income of no less than Baht 20,000. (b) If less than 60 years of age but not less than 55 years of age, must have an annual fixed income with funds maintained in a bank account for the past three months of no less than Baht 500,000 or have a monthly income of no less than Baht 50,000.

Edited December 20, 2018 by jacko45k

[Pattaya46]

17 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

//

3. Evidence of income such as a retirement pension, interest or dividends; and/or // (3) Must have evidence of having income of no less than Baht 65,000 per month; or //

 

As I already said, the problem is in the word Evidence.

One of only locations where Evidence is defined is this link I gave above :

Evidence = Letter from your Embassy verifying your Income, and nothing else. 

[tutsiwarrior]

thanks to everyone for their kind condolences...

 

the IO doc regarding the penalties for overstay is an old one and also in English...this time in addition the IO had 2 docs all in Thai that I never saw before...this is why I say they may be related to some new arrangement that hasn't been announced...

 

the verification of bank balance from the bank is always required when there's any money deposited for purposes of meeting the 800000 for a retirement application, either the entire amount or part if using income as well, nothing has changed there...I wanted to illustrate that I was using the combo income/deposit method for this application with an embassy income affidavit and that it was successful...sorry if folks were confused...

 

 

 

[jacko45k]

3 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

 

As I already said, the problem is in the word Evidence.

One of only locations where Evidence is defined is this link I gave above :

Evidence = Letter from your Embassy verifying your Income, and nothing else. 

Yes understood and a good point. Although I felt it should be there under the regulations if that is the ONLY evidence that is acceptable. 

[Lancelot01]

On 12/20/2018 at 10:49 AM, rocketdave said:

Renewed my retirement visa last week at Pattaya Immigration in Jomtien, had to have my pic taken (took half an hour) letter from bank and all done easy-peasy.

Ditto at Hua Hin immigration. 35 minutes from arriving to leaving.

[Nyezhov]

On 12/20/2018 at 8:39 AM, wgdanson said:

The extra papers are, Ithink, recognition of the overstay penalties and that you will be a good boy whilst in Thailand. In Phitsanulok they were in Thai & English so I signed.

Same here at CW. Plus a form stating that I swore I live where I say I live, arrived when I say I arrived and aint gonna work no more!