FritsSikkink Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 50 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: It is really clear somebody could sneak into America and shoot people and the left would defend them. It would still be politically incorrect to say illegal immigrant. You really think a wall will stop them? What about the TSA and Home land security people who can't pay their mortgages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: Mike Pence glad you enjoy it. I'd rather have Pence in the WH until 2020 than the man-child. What the last couple of years have clearly shown is that when you elect for president a person with the mentality of a particularly nasty and narcissistic 8 year old with a dim intellect the result ain't pretty. And that deserves a big DUH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 55 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: It is really clear somebody could sneak into America and shoot people and the left would defend them. It would still be politically incorrect to say illegal immigrant. Illegal entry for the purpose of killing some one is far less likely than a legitimate citizen doing so yet the latter action is defended by the "right" to have weapons. The illegal entry is so often based on escaping weapons. That is where their defence is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: You really think a wall will stop them? What about the TSA and Home land security people who can't pay their mortgages? It will make them easier to apprehend. People keep saying it takes just a ladder. Try putting a ladder on a 30 foot wall and then what? Jump the other side and break your ankle? Okay so after that you have alerted border patrol as there should be sensors on the wall. Now you will find yourself fenced into the USA. Before it was easier to cross back and wait. Now you are forced to continue or give up. With in 50 miles with no water you will hope you are found before it is too late. i think many people are under estimating how hard it is especially if a fence keeps out potential support vehicles used by smugglers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just legalize drugs a few years ahead of time,it will solve a few problems at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 38 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: Well the flip side of the coin would abandon iCE altogether. They don't think criminals come through the border. Nice way to change the narrative when it works out for your story. Hyperbole and hogwash all rolled into one. Focus on this. You are not going to get a wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: Hyperbole and hogwash all rolled into one. Focus on this. You are not going to get a wall. That is fine. I don't tend to actually get that angry about it despite the heated debates. Are you saying there aren't a lot of dems that advocate abolishing ICE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: That is fine. I don't tend to actually get that angry about it despite the heated debates. Are you saying there aren't a lot of dems that advocate abolishing ICE? Start a news topic on abolishing ICE and we’ll discuss. Oh you can’t. I get it, your on a hiding for nothing over the wall so you want to discuss something else. Sorry, not interested in playing your game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I do not think he can bypass the courts even with his Republican packed Supreme Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Start a news topic on abolishing ICE and we’ll discuss. Oh you can’t. I get it, your on a hiding for nothing over the wall so you want to discuss something else. Sorry, not interested in playing your game. No I can't start a topic on it because this site publishes overwhelmingly subjects that involve Trump. It generates traffic through controversy. The movement to abolish ICE is relevant in this context. If you aren't interested in genuine discourse don't reply to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Keep it civil or you will find yourself receiving a warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Cryingdick said: It is really clear somebody could sneak into America and shoot people and the left would defend them. It would still be politically incorrect to say illegal immigrant. Hmm ..... Interesting response to your original post (#20) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Cryingdick said: It is really clear somebody could sneak into America and shoot people and the left would defend them. It would still be politically incorrect to say illegal immigrant. No it wouldn’t. (Although it might be inaccurate)....but.... it would still be illegal to deny him/her due process, which is the gripe behind the argument being supported by the “no wall” faction... a lack of due process as outlined by US law. i hope this simple answer to your hypothetical, enhances your understanding of the situation.... and the opinions, right or wrong, of others. Respect the law, until you can change the law... simple really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Cryingdick said: It will make them easier to apprehend. People keep saying it takes just a ladder. Try putting a ladder on a 30 foot wall and then what? Jump the other side and break your ankle? Okay so after that you have alerted border patrol as there should be sensors on the wall. Now you will find yourself fenced into the USA. Before it was easier to cross back and wait. Now you are forced to continue or give up. With in 50 miles with no water you will hope you are found before it is too late. i think many people are under estimating how hard it is especially if a fence keeps out potential support vehicles used by smugglers. What about a tunnel? AND What about the TSA and Home land security people who can't pay their mortgages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Trump is ensuring that he is the story of the day and not Nancy Pelosi. Reality tv president. (as opposed to a real president who actually governs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: What about a tunnel? AND What about the TSA and Home land security people who can't pay their mortgages? Very easy to solve. Pass a bill through the house with 5.7 billion and deliver it to the senate. Neither side is going to compromise now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Briggsy said: Trump is ensuring that he is the story of the day and not Nancy Pelosi. Reality tv president. (as opposed to a real president who actually governs) Trump is the story of the day every single day. He got nationally syndicated air time for nearly two hours today. CNN can't live with out him. Look at the news stories on social media you visit including this site and there is little doubt that Trump is the focal point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Trump, he has you all stumped! the country can shut down, but he still will have the last card to play; that will ensure one and all will have to continue to look UP at him... For he has Airforce One, and an unlimited number of air refuellers ready on the tarmacs to go... he never has to come down to earth, to face you off - if he doesn't want to the funny thing is, that he wants to! and twitter still works for him at 45000ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alien365 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 As much as the wall is going to cost, if it is built using US labour and materials then it will create more jobs. Is this not a good thing? I don't personally think the wall should be built but he got voted in to power with the wall being one of the main points. Unless his supporters voice that they don't want the wall anymore then I guess this stalemate will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, alien365 said: As much as the wall is going to cost, if it is built using US labour and materials then it will create more jobs. Is this not a good thing? I don't personally think the wall should be built but he got voted in to power with the wall being one of the main points. Unless his supporters voice that they don't want the wall anymore then I guess this stalemate will continue. Trump said as much. A reporter got pissy about it and said he described a concrete wall before. He explained steel slats are see through and thew border patrol requested that feature, After that he said that we have companies that make steel and can build it or provide steel. stock symbol X might be a good one to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 If he really does this, there is a possibility that enough Republican leaders will join the democrats in calling for impeachment. He is showing many signs of being increasingly unhinged, and unstable. This might be the final straw. He would be a national security risk at that point, and would have to be removed from office. Pence would bring far more stability to the office. Always keep in mind one thing. This man is NOT a patriot. He got five deferments, when it came time to serve his nation, and he has admitted on camera that the bone spurs were a "temporary" thing, and they were minor. A doctor currying favor with the "family" gave him the letter, in exchange for favorable rent in one of their buildings. Does this sound like the definition of patriotism and nobility to you? Trump is a traitor to his nation. Lock him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 the pack of cards that had him let off being Drafted, was dealt by his powerful family To not be Drafted, for whatever (medical etc etc) reason; is a lot different than when someone is Drafted and does a runner What were the Trump circumstances? and was Donald Trump any different than a George Bush Draft Avoider? or a Bill Clinton Draft Avoider? oh hang on ! - a pattern is emerging they don't make'em like they used to: JFK LBJ DwightDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direction BANGKOK Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 The really funny part is he is actually expecting people to believe he cares about the wall and the saftey of citizens. We all know if he gets this obsessed with something it is 100% about his ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, alien365 said: As much as the wall is going to cost, if it is built using US labour and materials then it will create more jobs. Is this not a good thing? I don't personally think the wall should be built but he got voted in to power with the wall being one of the main points. Unless his supporters voice that they don't want the wall anymore then I guess this stalemate will continue. but he got voted in to power with the wall being one of the main points. And don't forget that he categorically stated that "Mexico will pay for the wall" so another broken promise/lie for which he is asking the US taxpayers to front up.........lying, clown-like imbecile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 34 minutes ago, alien365 said: As much as the wall is going to cost, if it is built using US labour and materials then it will create more jobs. Is this not a good thing? I don't personally think the wall should be built but he got voted in to power with the wall being one of the main points. Unless his supporters voice that they don't want the wall anymore then I guess this stalemate will continue. Yes the wall was one of his topics but he promised every one the Mexicans would pay!something seemed to have gone wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 The whole thing is really worrying. Trump is ill. He suffers from frontotemporal dementia. Some people with frontotemporal dementia are restless, aggressive and easily irritable. Others retire, become dull and indifferent to friends and relatives, and find nothing to enjoy. Those affected often misjudge everyday situations. For example, they make inappropriate or embarrassing remarks that they would not have heard before. Some joke loudly about strangers in the bus, others start to steal. When addressed, people with Frontotemporal Dementia are baffled or outraged - their self-criticism has suffered severely. Other possible symptoms are cravings and "tics": many sufferers just repeat what they have heard like an echo. Plus the whole thing combined with his personality shaped over time of his life: addicted to being the center of attention all the time, prone to megalomania and billionaire's posture. Unfit as president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, jvs said: Yes the wall was one of his topics but he promised every one the Mexicans would pay!something seemed to have gone wrong. it all goes way back to the Mexicans' ancestral DNA... the Spanish latino half - which is in common with Filinos ... they never re-pay their debts just like, a Loan = a Gift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alien365 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, tifino said: the pack of cards that had him let off being Drafted, was dealt by his powerful family To not be Drafted, for whatever (medical etc etc) reason; is a lot different than when someone is Drafted and does a runner What were the Trump circumstances? and was Donald Trump any different than a George Bush Draft Avoider? or a Bill Clinton Draft Avoider? oh hang on ! - a pattern is emerging they don't make'em like they used to: JFK LBJ DwightDE As a non American can I ask was Obama drafted? I feel drafting is archaic anyway. In a democracy you should have the right to choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, tifino said: the pack of cards that had him let off being Drafted, was dealt by his powerful family To not be Drafted, for whatever (medical etc etc) reason; is a lot different than when someone is Drafted and does a runner What were the Trump circumstances? and was Donald Trump any different than a George Bush Draft Avoider? or a Bill Clinton Draft Avoider? oh hang on ! - a pattern is emerging they don't make'em like they used to: JFK LBJ DwightDE Actually, the nature of LBJ's service was pretty dubious. https://www.nytimes.com/1964/09/21/archives/johnson-was-awarded-the-silver-star-for-flight-with-bomber-group-in.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 55 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: Trump is the story of the day every single day. He got nationally syndicated air time for nearly two hours today. CNN can't live with out him. Look at the news stories on social media you visit including this site and there is little doubt that Trump is the focal point. You're right, absolutely right. First time that I can agree with one of your posts. Trump is the "focal point". Just like the clown in a circus act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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