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Thailand passes internet security law decried as 'cyber martial law'


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Most governments are not subversive. But the more dictatorial and totalitarian they get, the more likely they are to believe that the general population is.

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Just now, korkenzieher said:

Most governments are not subversive. But the more dictatorial and totalitarian they get, the more likely they are to believe that the general population is.

Yeah it's called paranoia.....

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The problem with Thailand is that actions rarely match claimed objectives, this makes them highly suspect and sinister or just blatant stupidity

 

Take your pick

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33 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

how does this law affect regular people? can I still watch porn or will I be locked up?

Not 100% sure, but I think that is already illegal here...........or is just downloading it that is illegal.......:smile:

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6 hours ago, Prissana Pescud said:

What is new? All totalitarian societies do this. What has changed?

 I love Thailand, I wish the rulers of this country would do the same.

Well said.

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5 hours ago, FarangDoingHisThing69 said:

One step forward, two massive steps backward. Let's hope this gets reversed someday soon.

Delete one step forward... (if this post contravenes the new law please ignore it )

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8 minutes ago, Deerculler said:

Can a VPN stop them?

I reckon if you're using a free VPN then your VPN supplier is selling your browsing history, how else would they make money.

If you're paying a monthly fee then it's more likely they're not, but, who knows.

If you use a VPN then google or whoever, google or whoever still sees what you're googling and uses it for their reasons etc.

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6 hours ago, webfact said:

the legislation allows the military-led National Security Council to override all procedures with its own law.

Without NLA consent, how is that constitutional, ie., after an installed elected government such as might occur in 2019 and after the dissolution of the NCPO required by the constitution?

By what right is the NSC military-led?

Certainly at the present the NCPO has absolute power to override the constitution to command any government agency it desires and place its own officers as the leading government official. As the current PM is Chief of the NCPO, it can be said correctly that currently the NSC is military-led. So a military-led NSC is currently by default.

 

In fact the Office of the National Security Council is an agency under the Office of the Prime Minister whose members include:

  • the prime minister as chairman, a deputy prime minister selected by the prime minister as vice chairman, the ministers of Defence, Treasury, Foreign Affairs, Communications (physical, e.g.: roads), Technology and Communications (speech, print, or broadcast), the Interior, Justice, the director of Intelligence, the secretary of the National Economic and Social Development Bureau, the military’s Supreme Commander, and “three persons of eminence appointed by the Cabinet”, and a secretary who is also to be a member of the council. https://chalongbay.wordpress.com/2015/11/01/thailands-new-national-security-council-act-and-what-it-might-mean/

But what if the next elected PM is not Prayut or pro-military who might feel obligated to allow the military to subvert civilian leadership of the NSC?

By virtue of the election of a civilian having no loyalty of oath to the military, it would seem that the military might lose its leadership over the NSC. Just as the military could lose current control of the Minister of Defense and control of its military budget.

 

Obviously, the military can and has recently threatened what appears to be possible constitutional actions by an elected PM as threats to national security for which the military believes it has extra-constitutional powers to override (historically by force). That's a challenge to elected civilian control of government best left to another day.

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I sincerely hope that the country ( I'll be careful here) understands that the powers that be are rapidly jumping to the beat of a foreign (Not so free) power who've caused untold damage in the region for centuries..... I just hope that the ultimate power in the country realises and steps in before they as well as us will be taking a long holiday in the west....... It happened before in 1933........   ( Might of just kept out of choki there)    My bird said this new kracker was Tin Pot in another guise.......

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1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

That's illegal as well!

VPN's aren't currently illegal in Thailand, however, there have been proposals to ban them. Only a matter of time.

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1 hour ago, tjinks said:

Each passing day causes me to wonder about retiring to Thailand.

Dead right, if you can't read the writing on the wall now..... it's time for Specsavers  ! ........

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1 minute ago, Deerculler said:

How would they know if someone is using VPN?


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Ever try to use Amazon Prime Video in Thailand with your VPN? ????

 

 

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1 hour ago, cyril sneer said:

how does this law affect regular people? can I still watch porn or will I be locked up?

 

Following the spirit of the new law, it would seem to be up to the authorities to decide. Pretty much anything can be construed as wrongdoing. Then again, I don't think porn consumers are specifically targeted, but such things could certainly be used to spice a case against, say, dissenters.

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Just now, SiSePuede419 said:

Ever try to use Amazon Prime Video in Thailand with your VPN? ????

 

 

That's not because it has been detected in Thailand. It's because Amazon prime have made an educated guess that you are using a VPN in the source country. Try changing your VPN.

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I have tried it with one place in my own country and and they tell me I am not in my country even though my VPN says I am.



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The fall out from Thailand getting closer and closer to China. The elites, the junta, Taksin and the current placing as Thailand being the hub of crackdowns all comes from China as do most of the elites. I feel sorry for Thais they are being massively exploited by China!!

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53 minutes ago, overherebc said:

I reckon if you're using a free VPN then your VPN supplier is selling your browsing history, how else would they make money.

If you're paying a monthly fee then it's more likely they're not, but, who knows.

If you use a VPN then google or whoever, google or whoever still sees what you're googling and uses it for their reasons etc.

... so they are selling it , but then again they're not!!

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