Expats in Thailand considering moving to Latin America prompted by Thai visa changes

[OJAS]

11 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Last time I visited there ( late 90’s ) there was a big billboard as you exited the airport which read
“ las malvinas son nuestras “ ( the Falklands are ours ) with a map showing the location and it’s proximity to Argentina .

Not the best of welcomes !!

A friend of mine encountered identical sentiments during a cruise to Patagonia early last year. Had I been in his shoes and suitably equipped I might have been sorely tempted to add (in English, of course) the words "But the Falklands are ours" afterwards. Whether this would have justified any consequential prolonged stay in the Buenos Aires Hilton, though, is, of course, another matter!

 

The Argies always seem to trot out the Falklands issue whenever there is some domestic economic crisis to be masked from the local populace. Not at all conductive to a guaranteed peaceful life in Tangoland for British expats, I think!

 

[Jingthing]

There are lots of good reasons to avoid living in Argentina but their feelings about Las Malvinas isn't one of them.

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[Jingthing]

Here's something.

 

I've gleaned from my reading that in Colombia (and presumably other Latin American nations) just as in the U.S./Europe, etc., there is a potential stigma attached to people that have lived in Thailand in regards to assumptions that they are likely sexpats.

I think anyone that's being honest understands what that's about and that's a real thing.

This would apply largely to single men regardless of whether you've actually been a sex tourist / sexpat in reality.

Now it's also no secret that Colombia, similar to Thailand, also attracts lots of sex tourists and sexpats. 

Among "respectable" Colombians (as in Thailand) such types are not going to be highly valued.

If you're hanging around with others into that, you probably won't be much concerned with such a stigma. 

But if you're moving to Colombia with the idea of integrating more with "respectable" society there, it's likely to come out that you've been living in Thailand, and especially in smaller towns and cities, you may be harshly and sometimes unfairly judged for that. 

Whether judgements about that past might have any negative impact on dealings with immigration lawyers and actual immigration officials there seems possible as well. 

I don't know the answer for that kind of thing. Should people be dishonest about their past in their new community? Perhaps this is just another type of thing about that you might be able to  physically leave Thailand, but in some ways Thailand is going to stay with you. Like missing bum guns.

 

 

[CaptainJack]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Here's something.

 

I've gleaned from my reading that in Colombia (and presumably other Latin American nations) just as in the U.S./Europe, etc., there is a potential stigma attached to people that have lived in Thailand in regards to assumptions that they are likely sexpats.

I think anyone that's being honest understands what that's about and that's a real thing.

This would apply largely to single men regardless of whether you've actually been a sex tourist / sexpat in reality.

Now it's also no secret that Colombia, similar to Thailand, also attracts lots of sex tourists and sexpats. 

Among "respectable" Colombians (as in Thailand) such types are not going to be highly valued.

If you're hanging around with others into that, you probably won't be much concerned with such a stigma. 

But if you're moving to Colombia with the idea of integrating more with "respectable" society there, it's likely to come out that you've been living in Thailand, and especially in smaller towns and cities, you may be harshly and sometimes unfairly judged for that. 

Whether judgements about that past might have any negative impact on dealings with immigration lawyers and actual immigration officials there seems possible as well. 

I don't know the answer for that kind of thing. Should people be dishonest about their past in their new community? Perhaps this is just another type of thing about that you might be able to  physically leave Thailand, but in some ways Thailand is going to stay with you. Like missing bum guns.

 

 

Jingthing, 

 

I'm checking in for my last update and read your post.  When I was staying in Merida,  the young lady working reception where I was staying, after learning I had come from Thailand,  had a noticeable negative reaction.  She commented,  "oh, another one of you from Thailand ". I just ignored it and went about my way.  No I wonder what her thoughts about me were?  For anyone moving to Latin America,  this might be an issue. Probably best to make up a cover story.  I'll post my last post separately. 

[CaptainJack]

Hi everyone, 

 

I wanted to try and recap my last experiences here in CDMX and my future plans. 

 

CDMX is an amazing city.  It is Cosmopolitan and there is always something going on.  The weather is really nice and the cost of living less than the USA. 

 

There is one big drawback I see, and that is the expatriate community here are all very young.  There is not much opportunity to meet many older westerners here.  My go to group I have been a member of, Internations, which has been a great resource for meeting other western expats here is comprised of mostly 20 and 30 year olds.  They even have social events that are age restricted. 

 

But, to this being my last post regarding moving to a Latin American country. I have decided to repatriate back to Austin,  Texas.  I made this decision as I have been gathering information on the issues of repatriation, should I make that choice.   

 

Why have I decided now to go home?  There are a few, but important reasons.  At my age, I have found it really difficult to make western friends here.  For that matter, Bkk was not easy.  My ability to reconnect with social circles back home is supported by many organizations.   I have grown very weiry of the social isolation.   I did not have that problem in Austin. I can rejoin the social groups and there are still people there I know.  And they are in my age range.  Another is learning Spanish.  I don't think I am wired to really learn it fast enough to be functional in a Latin Country.  If you don't know Spanish,  I'd say think seriously about not moving here.  

 

But the big reason is about reentry in American society and their rules.  My research and now actually calling back to the USA and talking with car dealers and apartment leasing agents have supported what I read from expats that have gone home.  The problem is simple.  The longer you are gone, and the more ties you cut, the more difficult it will be, if not approaching Impossible. 

 

I never changed my financial matters to Thailand.   I simply opened a Thai bank account and got a debit card and transferred money every month to live on.  That was my smart move.  

 

Because I had not intended on living back in the USA,  I sold my car.  I read and find out that because I don't have a physical address (apartment) to list, I may have problems obtaining financing.   I won't know for sure until I return. 

 

Then there is renting a small studio apartment.   I may have problems meeting their screening requirements because I won't have any verifiable recent rental history.  The proverbial chicken and egg.

 

This also I won't know until I return,  which is set for May 3rd.  I have a rental car for two weeks (expensive) to sort these issues out.

 

It was when I realized that if I were to decide to repatriate,  the longer I am away from the USA,  the harder it will be.  I decided it is better to pull the plug now then wait.   I've been gone from the USA now for 13 months.  

 

For those who are considering repatriation,  there are numerous web sites and stories which talk about the challenges of repatriation,  both logistically, financial and emotionally. 

 

In my own self assessment,  I waited to long, am too old to have decided to move to Thailand.  Some guys can do it.  I did not succeed.  Now? To try and move to Latin America, at 66 and single is just another recipe for disaster.   At least it feels like it would me for me.  Oh, my success at traveling all over this planet I now understand does not translate into being a successful expatriate.  Another lesson learned.

 

My future plans? Well, I learned a lot the less then a year I did living in Bangkok.  I don't need all that much to be happy. A small studio apartment in a good community, a decent and reliable used car and the minimum in furnishings.   And after awhile, being settled and not such a basket case with all these changes?

 

One other thing I think out to be a "sticky" topic on TV.  That would be "Why you should not consider moving to Thailand after 60 unless you have 100k USA dollars to spend ".  Money is everything here, especially if you are older.   One needs to be able to pay their way in every aspect.   This rule, I think applies to moving to any foreign country.   Age, well, it is our biggest challenge,  especially when taking on a challenge like this.

 

Who knows? Maybe I'll come back for a long visit, especially if Thailand makes visiting as a tourist easier, and not harder.

 

Thats it.

 

Oh, I have one thing to say to the poster that ripped into me on my comparison of CDMX and Bkk.  

 

You called where I'm renting "a dump".

I was really happy to be able to rent that here in CDMX for what I am paying.   What gives you the right to degrade me by calling where I stay a "dump"? 

 

You know that old saying,  "Karma is a b**ch"! You may have your day where you are grateful to have something as nice as I have.  My "dump", is my "palace".

 

Good luck everyone, and thanks for your support and encouragement.....

 

Captain Jack......

[Cryingdick]

16 minutes ago, CaptainJack said:

Hi everyone, 

 

I wanted to try and recap my last experiences here in CDMX and my future plans. 

 

CDMX is an amazing city.  It is Cosmopolitan and there is always something going on.  The weather is really nice and the cost of living less than the USA. 

 

There is one big drawback I see, and that is the expatriate community here are all very young.  There is not much opportunity to meet many older westerners here.  My go to group I have been a member of, Internations, which has been a great resource for meeting other western expats here is comprised of mostly 20 and 30 year olds.  They even have social events that are age restricted. 

 

But, to this being my last post regarding moving to a Latin American country. I have decided to repatriate back to Austin,  Texas.  I made this decision as I have been gathering information on the issues of repatriation, should I make that choice.   

 

Why have I decided now to go home?  There are a few, but important reasons.  At my age, I have found it really difficult to make western friends here.  For that matter, Bkk was not easy.  My ability to reconnect with social circles back home is supported by many organizations.   I have grown very weiry of the social isolation.   I did not have that problem in Austin. I can rejoin the social groups and there are still people there I know.  And they are in my age range.  Another is learning Spanish.  I don't think I am wired to really learn it fast enough to be functional in a Latin Country.  If you don't know Spanish,  I'd say think seriously about not moving here.  

 

But the big reason is about reentry in American society and their rules.  My research and now actually calling back to the USA and talking with car dealers and apartment leasing agents have supported what I read from expats that have gone home.  The problem is simple.  The longer you are gone, and the more ties you cut, the more difficult it will be, if not approaching Impossible. 

 

I never changed my financial matters to Thailand.   I simply opened a Thai bank account and got a debit card and transferred money every month to live on.  That was my smart move.  

 

Because I had not intended on living back in the USA,  I sold my car.  I read and find out that because I don't have a physical address (apartment) to list, I may have problems obtaining financing.   I won't know for sure until I return. 

 

Then there is renting a small studio apartment.   I may have problems meeting their screening requirements because I won't have any verifiable recent rental history.  The proverbial chicken and egg.

 

This also I won't know until I return,  which is set for May 3rd.  I have a rental car for two weeks (expensive) to sort these issues out.

 

It was when I realized that if I were to decide to repatriate,  the longer I am away from the USA,  the harder it will be.  I decided it is better to pull the plug now then wait.   I've been gone from the USA now for 13 months.  

 

For those who are considering repatriation,  there are numerous web sites and stories which talk about the challenges of repatriation,  both logistically, financial and emotionally. 

 

In my own self assessment,  I waited to long, am too old to have decided to move to Thailand.  Some guys can do it.  I did not succeed.  Now? To try and move to Latin America, at 66 and single is just another recipe for disaster.   At least it feels like it would me for me.  Oh, my success at traveling all over this planet I now understand does not translate into being a successful expatriate.  Another lesson learned.

 

My future plans? Well, I learned a lot the less then a year I did living in Bangkok.  I don't need all that much to be happy. A small studio apartment in a good community, a decent and reliable used car and the minimum in furnishings.   And after awhile, being settled and not such a basket case with all these changes? 

 

Who knows? Maybe I'll come back for a long visit, especially if Thailand makes visiting as a tourist easier, and not harder.

 

Thats it.

 

Oh, I have one thing to say to the poster that ripped into me on my comparison of CDMX and Bkk.  

 

You called where I'm renting "a dump".

I was really happy to be able to rent that here in CDMX for what I am paying.   What gives you the right to degrade me by calling where I stay a "dump"? 

 

You know that old saying,  "Karma is a b**ch"! You may have your day where you are grateful to have something as nice as I have.  My "dump", is my "palace".

 

Good luck everyone, and thanks for your support and encouragement.....

 

Captain Jack......

 

Welcome home. I also recently repatriated and no regrets of any kind. Be thankful you are from a country that has so much going for it. I had spent 20 years abroad so had to begin everything fresh again. Hopefully because you were gone for such a short time it won't be hard to get back into the swing of things. 

[GinBoy2]

36 minutes ago, CaptainJack said:

Hi everyone, 

 

I wanted to try and recap my last experiences here in CDMX and my future plans. 

 

CDMX is an amazing city.  It is Cosmopolitan and there is always something going on.  The weather is really nice and the cost of living less than the USA. 

 

There is one big drawback I see, and that is the expatriate community here are all very young.  There is not much opportunity to meet many older westerners here.  My go to group I have been a member of, Internations, which has been a great resource for meeting other western expats here is comprised of mostly 20 and 30 year olds.  They even have social events that are age restricted. 

 

But, to this being my last post regarding moving to a Latin American country. I have decided to repatriate back to Austin,  Texas.  I made this decision as I have been gathering information on the issues of repatriation, should I make that choice.   

 

Why have I decided now to go home?  There are a few, but important reasons.  At my age, I have found it really difficult to make western friends here.  For that matter, Bkk was not easy.  My ability to reconnect with social circles back home is supported by many organizations.   I have grown very weiry of the social isolation.   I did not have that problem in Austin. I can rejoin the social groups and there are still people there I know.  And they are in my age range.  Another is learning Spanish.  I don't think I am wired to really learn it fast enough to be functional in a Latin Country.  If you don't know Spanish,  I'd say think seriously about not moving here.  

 

But the big reason is about reentry in American society and their rules.  My research and now actually calling back to the USA and talking with car dealers and apartment leasing agents have supported what I read from expats that have gone home.  The problem is simple.  The longer you are gone, and the more ties you cut, the more difficult it will be, if not approaching Impossible. 

 

I never changed my financial matters to Thailand.   I simply opened a Thai bank account and got a debit card and transferred money every month to live on.  That was my smart move.  

 

Because I had not intended on living back in the USA,  I sold my car.  I read and find out that because I don't have a physical address (apartment) to list, I may have problems obtaining financing.   I won't know for sure until I return. 

 

Then there is renting a small studio apartment.   I may have problems meeting their screening requirements because I won't have any verifiable recent rental history.  The proverbial chicken and egg.

 

This also I won't know until I return,  which is set for May 3rd.  I have a rental car for two weeks (expensive) to sort these issues out.

 

It was when I realized that if I were to decide to repatriate,  the longer I am away from the USA,  the harder it will be.  I decided it is better to pull the plug now then wait.   I've been gone from the USA now for 13 months.  

 

For those who are considering repatriation,  there are numerous web sites and stories which talk about the challenges of repatriation,  both logistically, financial and emotionally. 

 

In my own self assessment,  I waited to long, am too old to have decided to move to Thailand.  Some guys can do it.  I did not succeed.  Now? To try and move to Latin America, at 66 and single is just another recipe for disaster.   At least it feels like it would me for me.  Oh, my success at traveling all over this planet I now understand does not translate into being a successful expatriate.  Another lesson learned.

 

My future plans? Well, I learned a lot the less then a year I did living in Bangkok.  I don't need all that much to be happy. A small studio apartment in a good community, a decent and reliable used car and the minimum in furnishings.   And after awhile, being settled and not such a basket case with all these changes?

 

One other thing I think out to be a "sticky" topic on TV.  That would be "Why you should not consider moving to Thailand after 60 unless you have 100k USA dollars to spend ".  Money is everything here, especially if you are older.   One needs to be able to pay their way in every aspect.   This rule, I think applies to moving to any foreign country.   Age, well, it is our biggest challenge,  especially when taking on a challenge like this.

 

Who knows? Maybe I'll come back for a long visit, especially if Thailand makes visiting as a tourist easier, and not harder.

 

Thats it.

 

Oh, I have one thing to say to the poster that ripped into me on my comparison of CDMX and Bkk.  

 

You called where I'm renting "a dump".

I was really happy to be able to rent that here in CDMX for what I am paying.   What gives you the right to degrade me by calling where I stay a "dump"? 

 

You know that old saying,  "Karma is a b**ch"! You may have your day where you are grateful to have something as nice as I have.  My "dump", is my "palace".

 

Good luck everyone, and thanks for your support and encouragement.....

 

Captain Jack......

Welcome home.

 

I'm a snowbirder now, and we having regretted moving back for a second, and the few months a year we spend back in Thailand is quite enough.

 

You know very well you can pick up a reasonable used car for a couple of thousand $, which should see you through until you reestablish your credit.

As for renting an apartment, that might be a bit tricker, but I'd try a private rental rather than a corporate apartment complex.

 

[GinBoy2]

35 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

Welcome home.

 

I'm a snowbirder now, and we having regretted moving back for a second, and the few months a year we spend back in Thailand is quite enough.

 

You know very well you can pick up a reasonable used car for a couple of thousand $, which should see you through until you reestablish your credit.

As for renting an apartment, that might be a bit tricker, but I'd try a private rental rather than a corporate apartment complex.

 

And since it wouldn't let me edit, obviously I meant to write 'never have regretted'

[GinBoy2]

One last thing..

 

Also try craigslist, and I'm sure there will be a facebook page for 'Austin Buy & Sell' or something similar to that name.

 

The one here is filled with ads for cars and apartments to rent, generally private transactions not real estate agents.

You will also probably be able to pick up some decent used furniture while you're getting it all back together 

[grifbel]

Is it just me, or have all the expats become softies and mentally weak. 

Whatever happened to the good old days with the likes of Bogie and Hemingway.

 

No way, those dudes would be pouring their hearts out and whining about their fears and failures on a public forum. 

[Jingthing]

I want to respond to the idea that you need to speak much Spanish to live in Latin America. That is not true. You need a good amount of Spanish to live in most of the locations there but there are a number of specific places that are more like Gringo Ghettos that you can get by in long term without Spanish. Of course, in general these are going to more expensive but for many people the extra cost is worth it and you also get a potentially supportive Anglo community.

 

Examples --

Puerto Vallarta Mexico

Ajijic / Lake Chapala Mexico

San Miguel Allende Mexico

Cuenca Ecuador

Poblado, Medellin Colombia

Those are all nice places!

 

Personally my interest if I move down there would be to not live in a gringo ghetto. Partly because I think it would ultimately be more enriching, partly as a reaction to living in a farang ghetto in Thailand, and partly because it would mean more bang for the bucks. I can hear the jokes about bangs and gun violence coming …

 

If money wasn't an issue for me (but it is) I might be more interested in places like --

 

Miraflores neighborhood, Lima Peru

Puerto Vallarta (I left my heart in …)

Cartagenia Colombia (maybe)

Montevideo Uruguay

Panama City Panama

Medellin Colombia (it's still on my list as costs are neighborhood specific)

 

More local type you need Spanish places examples  --

Armenia Colombia

Queretaro Mexico

Arequipa Peru

 

Noticed this website.

Seems pretty good.

 

https://www.expatsinmexico.com/

 

[GinBoy2]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

I want to respond to the idea that you need to speak much Spanish to live in Latin America. That is not true. You need a good amount of Spanish to live in most of the locations there but there are a number of specific places that are more like Gringo Ghettos that you can get by in long term without Spanish. Of course, in general these are going to more expensive but for many people the extra cost is worth it and you also get a potentially supportive Anglo community.

 

Examples --

Puerto Vallarta Mexico

Ajijic / Lake Chapala Mexico

San Miguel Allende Mexico

Cuenca Ecuador

Poblado, Medellin Colombia

Those are all nice places!

 

Personally my interest if I move down there would be to not live in a gringo ghetto. Partly because I think it would ultimately be more enriching, partly as a reaction to living in a farang ghetto in Thailand, and partly because it would mean more bang for the bucks. I can hear the jokes about bangs and gun violence coming …

 

If money wasn't an issue for me (but it is) I might be more interested in places like --

 

Miraflores neighborhood, Lima Peru

Puerto Vallarta (I left my heart in …)

Cartagenia Colombia (maybe)

Montevideo Uruguay

Panama City Panama

Medellin Colombia (it's still on my list as costs are neighborhood specific)

 

More local type you need Spanish places examples  --

Armenia Colombia

Queretaro Mexico

Arequipa Peru

 

Noticed this website.

Seems pretty good.

 

https://www.expatsinmexico.com/

 

So, as an hispanic Spanish isn't a problem for me,

 

But in Mexico any of the tourist destinations, speaking zero Spanish isn't going to be a problem, but expect to pay more for housing.

 

Columbia, English certainly isn't a problem in the middle classes.

 

When I visit my cousin in Columbia we mix n match English and Spanish generally to allow my wife to participate in all social situations

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, GinBoy2 said:

So, as an hispanic Spanish isn't a problem for me,

 

But in Mexico any of the tourist destinations, speaking zero Spanish isn't going to be a problem, but expect to pay more for housing.

 

Columbia, English certainly isn't a problem in the middle classes.

 

When I visit my cousin in Columbia we mix n match English and Spanish generally to allow my wife to participate in all social situations

I recall you mentioned you visit Cartagena when you are there, right? As I've mentioned before Cartagena is a lot more English accessible than many Colombian destinations because it's a major international beach city resort. So it depends where in Colombia.

[GinBoy2]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

I recall you mentioned you visit Cartagena when you are there, right? As I've mentioned before Cartagena is a lot more English accessible than many Colombian destinations because it's a major international beach city resort. So it depends where in Colombia.

It depends on whether you are talking to someone in a store, or a dinner party discussion.

 

Most middle class Colombians speak English, regardless of where you live

 

 

[marcusarelus]

I don't see much of a problem.  NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, Maimi or San Antonio with no car and enough hispanics to form a small country in South America.  My plan involves calling up and old girlfriend and renting a room.  So far so good I got two yes and one maybe.  VA and medicare for health and it seems simple. 

[Jingthing]

I don't see much of a problem.  NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, Maimi or San Antonio with no car and enough hispanics to form a small country in South America.  My plan involves calling up and old girlfriend and renting a room.  So far so good I got two yes and one maybe.  VA and medicare for health and it seems simple. 

uh huh.

 

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[JaiLai]

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I want to respond to the idea that you need to speak much Spanish to live in Latin America. That is not true. You need a good amount of Spanish to live in most of the locations there but there are a number of specific places that are more like Gringo Ghettos that you can get by in long term without Spanish. Of course, in general these are going to more expensive but for many people the extra cost is worth it and you also get a potentially supportive Anglo community.

 

Examples --

Puerto Vallarta Mexico

Ajijic / Lake Chapala Mexico

San Miguel Allende Mexico

Cuenca Ecuador

Poblado, Medellin Colombia

Those are all nice places!

 

Personally my interest if I move down there would be to not live in a gringo ghetto. Partly because I think it would ultimately be more enriching, partly as a reaction to living in a farang ghetto in Thailand, and partly because it would mean more bang for the bucks. I can hear the jokes about bangs and gun violence coming …

 

If money wasn't an issue for me (but it is) I might be more interested in places like --

 

Miraflores neighborhood, Lima Peru

Puerto Vallarta (I left my heart in …)

Cartagenia Colombia (maybe)

Montevideo Uruguay

Panama City Panama

Medellin Colombia (it's still on my list as costs are neighborhood specific)

 

More local type you need Spanish places examples  --

Armenia Colombia

Queretaro Mexico

Arequipa Peru

 

Noticed this website.

Seems pretty good.

 

https://www.expatsinmexico.com/

 

Are you ever going to try to relocate to any of the places you mention, or just continue to tell people how to respond to your topics?

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, JaiLai said:

Are you ever going to try to relocate to any of the places you mention, or just continue to tell people how to respond to your topics?

No. Not ever going. That's what you want to hear, right?

The topic isn't about whether I personally go or don't go. 

 

[JaiLai]

No. Not ever going. That's what you want to hear, right?
The topic isn't about whether I personally go or don't go. 
 

It’s not???

So what’s the point? ( like so many of your topics )


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[Luckysilk]

1 hour ago, JaiLai said:

Are you ever going to try to relocate to any of the places you mention, or just continue to tell people how to respond to your topics?

We can only hope but I fear since the OP has been moaning for over 10 years about Thailand we're stuck.

[JaiLai]

We can only hope but I fear since the OP has been moaning for over 10 years about Thailand we're stuck.

All his topics are pants, if he’s not happy with replies he just tells people not to bother posting.

If people encourage him he just waffles on more ( in this case to places he’s not going to go )

Very perculiar.


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[direction BANGKOK]

Todos Santos in Baja is lovely if you do not mind the occasional large hurricane. 

 

I have been to Peru and Ecuador and could see myself in either one quite easily. It is cheap, I think the food is probably better than Thai food, although it is all amazing. I mean ceviches, cmon. You are gonna get sick more though, trust me on that one. Except Mexico... i have found their street food to be quite well looked after, at least according to my intestines. 

 

I think the latino people are much more on a western wavelength. I am actually surprised this has not been mentioned. Plus, every city has a main "plaza de armas" down there and I find it very quaint. It is basically prime real estate in the middle of every town that is meant for the people... to do things like socialize with foreigners and each other. Cannot beat it. 

 

If you do stupid things in any country over there, it is going to catch up to you. Try 3am taxis solo for example. You aint gonna get awat with that every single time like you will here.  

 

Lastly, and probably most important, the alcohol is much better down there. Most inow about margueritas and Mexican beer. But in Peru grab a fairly cheap bottle of pisco, some sprite and a few limes and let me tell you that will rival anything. 

[Luckysilk]

19 minutes ago, JaiLai said:

 

All his topics are pants, if he’s not happy with replies he just tells people not to bother posting.

If people encourage him he just waffles on more ( in this case to places he’s not going to go )

Very perculiar.


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Yep very odd, I dared to say a lot of bullying happens and guess what ?

 

I got a PM saying he's doesn't appreciate being called a bully.

 

555555555

 

Come to think of it, doesn't sending a PM like that constitute bullying ? 

 

 

[Jingthing]

53 minutes ago, JaiLai said:

 

It’s not???

So what’s the point? ( like so many of your topics )


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See the O.P.

Look up the word -- considering.

Sorry I don't work for you and I'm not here to fulfill your ideas of what I should be doing with my threads or my choices of locations.

Cheers.

[Jingthing]

Just now, Luckysilk said:

Yep very odd, I dared to say a lot of bullying happens and guess what ?

 

I got a PM saying he's doesn't appreciate being called a bully.

 

555555555

 

 

No. That is not what you said. You directly attacked me and called me a bully specifically. I don't think that is OK so I did indeed PM you to suggest that you desist from such personal attack name calling flames on the open forum. If you think my PM is a problem, you are free to contact the management. Beyond that, I consider it the sleaziest of posting behaviors to refer to PM communication on the open forum. 

The topic is in the O.P.

Clear enough for most people anyway. 

[Jingthing]

25 minutes ago, JaiLai said:

 

All his topics are pants, if he’s not happy with replies he just tells people not to bother posting.

If people encourage him he just waffles on more ( in this case to places he’s not going to go )

Very perculiar.


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You're partly exactly right.

Troll posts are not welcome.

Flames / name calling are not welcome.

Off topic posts are not welcome.

Rants from people that are clearly not at all interested in the topic, but are instead only posting to be destructive and try to kill the thread are not welcome.

The only types of posts that belong on this thread are clearly indicated in the O.P.

Not interested in the topic of CONSIDERING expatriation destinations in Latin America?
Then this thread is not for you.

I see a thread about knitting and I glance the topic headline and move on.

What is so hard?!?

[Jingthing]

38 minutes ago, Luckysilk said:

We can only hope but I fear since the OP has been moaning for over 10 years about Thailand we're stuck.

You're stuck? Funny, you don't know how to ignore topics that don't interest you or indeed you can put me on your ignore list and then you're not stuck. 

[Jingthing]

Here we go again.

It seems like I need to do this every few days as the heckling keeps repeating.

 

By starting this thread, I have never made any personal commitment to --

 

Ever leave Thailand

Move to Latin America

Visit Latin America again

 

It's a topic for DISCUSSION.

It's a topic for people to SHARE INFORMATION, ideas, and opinions about the topic.

It's a topic for people that are at least CONSIDERING a move to Latin America.

 

Cheers.

[Jingthing]

Back to the general topic of the need for officialized police record documents for people moving from Thailand to Latin American for most of those countries. I think pretty much all of the Latin American nations are in the Hague apostle agreement. The USA as well. Canada is not, and neither is Thailand.

 

Apostles are a pain but when a country requires a document to have an apostle from a country that doesn't do them, then that's a complicating factor. If it's an apostle country, you know exactly what you need -- an apostle. For Thailand, you need to figure it out.

 

That's one of the long term goals/intentions of this thread. I realize it's an ambitious goal. If some people actually start moving from Thailand to the Latin American nations, it would be very valuable information to know how exactly they dealt with this for each country that requires this. In some cases, it might be a matter of working with the Latin American embassy in Thailand. But again, that kind of Thailand specific information is not going to be at all easy to find at expat info sources in Latin America. Even lawyers and visa agents there probably won't know the details about Thailand,

 

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

It depends on whether you are talking to someone in a store, or a dinner party discussion.

 

Most middle class Colombians speak English, regardless of where you live

 

 

I'm hearing different information.

For example a provincial small city of Armenia  CO I'm hearing --

Most adults don't speak English

Younger people are widely studying it to prepare for business and local tourism industry (but that doesn't necessarily mean they will be able to speak it)

Even doctors don't all speak English

Such a small number of expats and even gringo tourists, that the general advice is you better speak some Spanish just to do basic things … apartments and landlords, banking, basic services, shopping, taxis, delivery ordering, and of course socializing. Buenos Dias every time is about as charming as just Sawadee Khrap everyday. No connections with that.

 

Also a place like Queretaro MX which is large more cosmopolitan city, I'm hearing similar things, again and again. Its for expats that speak Spanish. If you don't or won't learn it, then go to San Miguel or Vallarta, etc.

 

Exceptions are industry expats that move to the suburbs and get support from their employers. 

 

When I hear the same thing from very many diverse sources, I'm inclined to believe it.