malagateddy Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Racist ranters..oh dear..how sad..never mind[emoji23] EU has been changing itself, like any other EU member country has done as well. The folks who now are so much against EU, know virtually nothing about EU. Ignorant racist ranters they are, nothing more.Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Greenisland said: EU has been changing itself, like any other EU member country has done as well. The folks who now are so much against EU, know virtually nothing about EU. Ignorant racist ranters they are, nothing more. I do know this, the EU President, the EU Commission President and the 28 EU Commissioners, all of who have all the power, are all appointed and not elected, so not accountable to the people of the EU. I want to be able to vote out incompetent politicos and time servers in the Commission, you can't do that in the EU. It is, in effect, a benign (so far, but be warned) Dictatorship. That's enough for me. And some people on this forum, actually quite a lot, are quick to criticise the Thais and the Junta. Ha ha, what a joke. The EU peoples live under much the same system. In fact, arguably, Thailand is the more democratic of the two. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welovesundaysatspace Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 27 minutes ago, Pilotman said: not the one we want, so back to them. What part of we want to leave their fairy tail, Federal European, undemocratic club don't they understand? Still living in lala land. Poor fools. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 18 hours ago, sanemax said: I was talking about generally , not people conducting business . Lets try again : What language do people from non-English speaking Countries speak to Thais in ? Would a German come to Thailand and speak to the locals in German , Mandarin, Hindi or English ? Hindi is popular these days...the indians have replaced the skint brits ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted March 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, Pilotman said: I do know this, the EU President, the EU Commission President and the 28 EU Commissioners, all of who have all the power, are all appointed and not elected, so not accountable to the people of the EU. I want to be able to vote out incompetent politicos and time servers in the Commission, you can't do that in the EU. It is, in effect, a benign (so far, but be warned) Dictatorship. That's enough for me. And some people on this forum, actually quite a lot, are quick to criticise the Thais and the Junta. Ha ha, what a joke. The EU peoples live under much the same system. In fact, arguably, Thailand is the more democratic of the two. There is no EU president. The others you cite are appointed or elected by elected national governments and/or elected MEPs. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 11 hours ago, melvinmelvin said: British empire still alive and kicking Only down spoonies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, candide said: There is no EU president. The others you cite are appointed or elected by elected national governments and/or elected MEPs. Jean Claude Juncka Edited March 31, 2019 by Pilotman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagateddy Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I call a spade a spade..give u little clue..I'm both a Royalist and a Unionist[emoji6] Yes. That's what you and your kind of people really are. You can take it as a badge of honour, I don't care. I wish you could be honest about yourself. But that would require courage, which you clearly lack. Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, candide said: There is no EU president. The others you cite are appointed or elected by elected national governments and/or elected MEPs. so appointed then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pilotman said: so appointed then is the British cabinet elected? No, the members are appointed by a Prime Minister. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagateddy Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Little do u know...oh dear..how sad..never mind.Ps..maybe look thro old posts..enhance ur knowledge[emoji6] You are neither of those. Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, bannork said: is the British cabinet elected? No, the members are appointed by a Prime Minister. they are elected members, they are appointed to a cabinet post but are still accountable to their constituents, not so the Commissioners, who are elected by nobody. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Greenisland said: Oh my! Are you talking about EU commission or UK parliament where the government is appointed, not elected? You could as well talk about unelected bureaucrats in EU, or in Whitehall.. or should we talk about the dutiful civil servants who work for our benefit? Which case it should be if we drop the double standards on our speaks? Little folks.. I am no apologist for UK civil servants or politicians, who are all a bunch of muppets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagateddy Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Tell u something else..I wish the UK Govt had the ba$$s to employ Big Joke as a consultant to help the UKBA catch and get rid of all the illegals in the UK.Especially those involved in organised crime!!!!! I'm well aware of your presence. I see who you really are. Racist. grumpy racists person. Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Excellent discussion with Ken Clarke. You really should hear what he has to say! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post damascase Posted March 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pilotman said: not the one we want, so back to them. What part of we want to leave their fairy tail, Federal European, undemocratic club don't they understand? Then why don’t you just leave? The EU is not stopping you! Edited March 31, 2019 by damascase Typo 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Pilotman said: they are elected members, they are appointed to a cabinet post but are still accountable to their constituents, not so the Commissioners, who are elected by nobody. Does the law impose that they must be elected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted March 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2019 26 minutes ago, Pilotman said: Jean Claude Juncka He is president of the European Commission. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Pilotman said: so appointed then Same case for Theresa May after Cameron "run off" (read : deserted...) , she was not elected neither as PM at that moment , ….just a follow up appointee ..are the lords of house of lords ..elected ?? Edited March 31, 2019 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, Pilotman said: I am no apologist for UK civil servants or politicians, who are all a bunch of muppets. Oxbridge muppets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Well, I have been AWOL for 10 days but horrifying to come back to such a low level discussion. Poor. Goodnight all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenisland Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, Pilotman said: I am no apologist for UK civil servants or politicians, who are all a bunch of muppets. You can blame the elected politicians as much as you wish, but you can't really blame the unelected civil servants, who are doing their jobs the best they can. Learn the difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickstart Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 On 3/30/2019 at 3:16 PM, geoffbezoz said: Hardly at all as Merkel is not standing for re-election and the UK produces virtually nothing now that Germany actually wants. Thatcher , that other evil women saw to that. Why is it that these two Tory women have damaged the UK economy far more than Hitler did or even aspired to ? When Thatcher became PM, I was paying 16% on my mortgage, just after she left I was paying 3% on my mortgage. She only did what wanted doing, curbing the trade unions and, doing something with the Dinosaur of nationalised industries .and at the time I was living in North Notts, in the middle of a mining community, not nice. As for Mrs May, she goes who else could do the job? or who would want the job, it would be a short time in No 10, so do not throw away the house movers card I know she is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, it is not going to go as she wants, 12th April, Thai's will be celebrating Songkran, what will the Uk be doing. I would like to know what per cent of those who voted to leave, are thinking that was not such a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Pilotman said: so appointed then Pre vote 99% of leave voters wouldnt know his name..even now 90% wont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, malagateddy said: I call a spade a spade..give u little clue..I'm both a Royalist and a Unionist Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Not been a good day for you then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 42 minutes ago, Grouse said: Well, I have been AWOL for 10 days but horrifying to come back to such a low level discussion. Poor. Goodnight all. Dont worry brexit will be put to bed soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagateddy Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Every day is a good day old boy[emoji6] Not been a good day for you then.Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 The latest U.K politicians plans ….. better let some African migrants throw the chicken bones ,to see Brexit future https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/31/labour-may-call-fresh-vote-of-no-confidence-in-theresa-may A) Labour may call fresh vote of no confidence in Theresa May https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/30/furious-tory-mps-tell-theresa-may-they-will-block-snap-election B) Furious Tory MPs tell May: we’ll block snap Brexit election https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/31/theresa-may-accept-soft-brexit-if-parliament-backs-it-says-minister C ) PM may have to accept soft Brexit if Commons backs it, says minister David Gauke says May would have to ‘look closely’ at customs union if MPs voted for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, malagateddy said: Every day is a good day old boy Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Old ha ha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted March 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Pilotman said: so appointed then President of EP: elected MEP, elected by other MEPs President of EC: nominated by European Council and elected by EP. So indirectly elected (same as Senators or PMs in several countries) President of Council: elected by Council (represents elected governments of member states) Sorry, it does not fit your superficial simplification. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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