Julian Assange arrested by British police at Ecuadorean embassy

[bendejo]

4 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

Are they certain they didn't get Santa Claus?!? 

Papa Smurf?

 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, elmrfudd said:

evidence please, or is this an opinion?

See you (sorry Assange) in court.

[elmrfudd]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

See you (sorry Assange) in court.

weak deflection

[CGW]

2 minutes ago, elmrfudd said:

weak deflection

Hey, be fair, he's only 11 years old - least that's how his "replies" come across ???? 

[Syduan]

20 hours ago, CGW said:

Looks like many on here don't agree with freedom of the press? You will all be happy moving forward when freedom of speech is further curtailed. ????

What do you expect from sheeple who still believe the BBC propaganda they are fed with.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

[CGW]

Just now, Syduan said:

What do you expect from sheeple who still believe the BBC propaganda they are fed with.

 

The British Brainwashing Corporation has a lot to answer for, a lot of the Brits who move here in their later years are so brainwashed they don't even realise it, then apply BBC logic to life in Thailand & in cases they like they are unable to think for themselves and have to be told what to think by the "analysts" that the BBC hires for inflated sums!

[ravip]

1 hour ago, dick dasterdly said:

"But failing to appear before a court when summonsed to do so is an offense in England. So that's why he was arrested."

 

Does anyone seriously believe that the uk govt. spent millions to initially stop him escaping as a result of him skipping bail, and then arrested him for this reason??

Let's believe it be so. After all, the UK government will not do anything untoward, would it?

[ravip]

1 hour ago, Date Masamune said:

Love or hate him wikileaks published truthful information that is now common knowledge. If the UK courts extradite him Assange will die in the darkest hole of the US eating punishment loaf. A very dark day with indicating the end of investigative journalism. By the same logic the publisher of the NY Times should be jailed. 

 

So much for democracy!

And they bash the poor undeveloped nations and their natives...

Yes, 'development', 'first world' are things similar to Chameleons. The hue changes continuously as per the necessity!

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, SpaceKadet said:

Julian didn't "flee" Sweden. He was scheduled to travel to UK after his visit to Sweden. At that time the charges were dropped, and even his lawyer contacted the Swedish authorities prior to Julian's travel, and was told it was OK for him to leave Sweden.

 

As soon as he arrived in UK, Sweden requested his extradition, using a legal instrument created for extradition of high profile terrorists... very strange.

 

And the rest is history.

Can you provide a source for this information?

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, KittenKong said:

I personally think that anyone who helps shed light on the endless misdeeds and corruption of most governments and politicians deserves a medal and a big pension.

But he didn't shed light on most governments.  He certainly doesn't shed light totalitarian governments that have no freedom of speech or press.  I wonder why that is?

[KittenKong]

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

But he didn't shed light on most governments.  He certainly doesn't shed light totalitarian governments that have no freedom of speech or press.  I wonder why that is?

Anything is better than nothing.

[OJAS]

21 minutes ago, heybruce said:

But he didn't shed light on most governments.  He certainly doesn't shed light totalitarian governments that have no freedom of speech or press.  I wonder why that is?

Maybe because of steady supplies of well-stuffed brown envelopes from said totalitarian governments to Wikileaks???

[losworld]

4 minutes ago, OJAS said:

Maybe because of steady supplies of well-stuffed brown envelopes from said totalitarian governments to Wikileaks???

Ridiculous assertion.  Why should he not expose the western governments that influence the world around him.   Are you a Russian conspiracy theorist?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, elmrfudd said:

weak deflection

Perhaps you  should spend some time reading Roger Stone's indictment. 

 

I'm not going to read it for you.

[Jingthing]

They appear to be charging him on something very narrow. Actively hacking into secure U.S. government site. That is clearly very illegal. Not much ambiguity there at all. Receiving information like that from others is different from a freedom of press POV. While the entire Wikileaks thing has become extremely politicized and rightly so considering the WEAPONIZED timing of their releases during the democratic convention,  the known activism from Russia trying to get "trump" elected, etc. -- but from a purist rule of law perspective, he should be extradited, and he should be prosecuted. It's no secret that the U.S. is in a virtual civil war now. It's not clear which side of that benefits more from this arrest but the arrest itself is completely justified looking at it from any side. 

Edited April 12, 2019 by Jingthing

[SpaceKadet]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Can you provide a source for this information?

It has been well documented in 2010 and 2011. You'll have to go to the Internet Archives to dig out all the dirty details, the plays of the two women involved, the Swedish prosecutor who dismissed the case, the shock when arriving in London, Julian was summoned for questioning in Sweden, still not being charged, etc...

 

Nowadays, there is a lot of conflicting information around. After all, almost 10 years has gone. And it has been in some peoples interest to create a lot of FUD and paint a very black picture of Julian.

 

Wikipedia has a fairly accurate, albeit shallow, account of the early events. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_Authority

 

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/feb/08/julian-assange-extradition-hearing-texts

Edited April 12, 2019 by SpaceKadet
Added another link

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Date Masamune said:

Love or hate him wikileaks published truthful information that is now common knowledge. If the UK courts extradite him Assange will die in the darkest hole of the US eating punishment loaf. A very dark day with indicating the end of investigative journalism. By the same logic the publisher of the NY Times should be jailed. 

 

Assange is not a journalist, he's a Russian intelligence stooge.

 

Which is why Manafort, Stone and Farage are lying about their meetings/contacts with him and why all of a sudden Trump wants us to believe he doesn't know anything about Wikileaks.

 

 

[Guest Jerry787]

very sad days, only trolls and obviously brainwashed indivuduals may cheer his arrest, proving how low is their IQ, if they got any at all !

a journalist who exposed to the world the true was arrested, this a is a very black day for democracy and freedom of expression

Edited April 12, 2019 by Jerry787
spelling

[NeoDinosaw]

22 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I hope he sues that woman who said she had consensual sex with him, and then she said he raped her, and then she had consensual sex with him again.

So he had sex with her 3 times ?

[Thechook]

Bring him home to Australia and tell the yanks to bugger off. An Australian hero.

[cleopatra2]

3 hours ago, SpaceKadet said:

Julian didn't "flee" Sweden. He was scheduled to travel to UK after his visit to Sweden. At that time the charges were dropped, and even his lawyer contacted the Swedish authorities prior to Julian's travel, and was told it was OK for him to leave Sweden.

 

As soon as he arrived in UK, Sweden requested his extradition, using a legal instrument created for extradition of high profile terrorists... very strange.

 

And the rest is history.

Court documents prove Assange lawyer admitted that his written testimony was incorrect.

The Swedish Authorities on 21/22 September 2010 contacted the lawyer and requested a further interrogation. 

Initially even whilst giving evidence , the lawyer denied such a request occurred , it was during cross examination that he was asked to look back through his records. Following a short adjournment , the his lawyer returned to acknowledge such a request took place.

The lawyer further stated that he could not get in to touch  with Assange, untill 28/29th September , the day after which he had left Sweden.

The charges could not be dropped due to Swedish procedure requirement of the pre investigation to be concluded , before prosecution can commence.

 

Prior to the extradition hearings , the Swedish courts had issued an arrest warrant  , due to probable cause of the offences been committed.

 

It seems somewhat bizzare , that Assange only a few months earlier was extolling the virtues of Swedish Liberties with regards protection for free speech and journalists ( wikileaks at the time being hosted in sweden). However when it came to being extradited , somehow these protections no longer existed.

[Chomper Higgot]

40 minutes ago, Jerry787 said:

very sad days, only trolls and obviously brainwashed indivuduals may cheer his arrest, proving how low is their IQ, if they got any at all !

a journalist who exposed to the world the true was arrested, this a is a very black day for democracy and freedom of expression

Do you think you could try making your case on behalf of Assange without resorting to insults against those who hold a different view.

 

Give it a try with this:

 

Read Roger Stone's indictment and what it tells us about Assange and the part he played in the Russian interference in the 2016 US election.

[Pilotman]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

They appear to be charging him on something very narrow. Actively hacking into secure U.S. government site. That is clearly very illegal. Not much ambiguity there at all. Receiving information like that from others is different from a freedom of press POV. While the entire Wikileaks thing has become extremely politicized and rightly so considering the WEAPONIZED timing of their releases during the democratic convention,  the known activism from Russia trying to get "trump" elected, etc. -- but from a purist rule of law perspective, he should be extradited, and he should be prosecuted. It's no secret that the U.S. is in a virtual civil war now. It's not clear which side of that benefits more from this arrest but the arrest itself is completely justified looking at it from any side. 

I don't care what they charge him with, narrow or not, just so long as the moron goes to jail for a very very long time.  

[Pilotman]

33 minutes ago, Thechook said:

Bring him home to Australia and tell the yanks to bugger off. An Australian hero.

an Australian moron, you should be embarrassed to have him as a citizen. 

[metisdead]

A post containing a misspelling of a politician's name has been removed. If you do not want your post to be removed, spell people's names correctly. 

 

Some off topic posts were removed. 

[Date Masamune]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Assange is not a journalist, he's a Russian intelligence stooge.

 

Which is why Manafort, Stone and Farage are lying about their meetings/contacts with him and why all of a sudden Trump wants us to believe he doesn't know anything about Wikileaks.

 

 

Interestiing you responded as "Confused" by my last submission, but you understand completely.

Assange did not hack any database he got information from a source, which was confirmed, then published.

Exactly what newspapers have been doing for decades.

[batata]

6 hours ago, Jack Mountain said:

Here are the smoking silver coins ...

 

https://www.enca.com/business/imf-approves-42bn-loan-ecuador?mc_cid=6e193f9327&mc_eid=304a3703aa

 

I had a feeling something was cooking, only needed time for it to be seasoned....somebody brought up the word conspiracy which it's a perfect fit for Trump, everything and anything he does it's based on blackmailing/sandbagging people and/or governments

[cleopatra2]

1 hour ago, SpaceKadet said:

It has been well documented in 2010 and 2011. You'll have to go to the Internet Archives to dig out all the dirty details, the plays of the two women involved, the Swedish prosecutor who dismissed the case, the shock when arriving in London, Julian was summoned for questioning in Sweden, still not being charged, etc...

 

Nowadays, there is a lot of conflicting information around. After all, almost 10 years has gone. And it has been in some peoples interest to create a lot of FUD and paint a very black picture of Julian.

 

Wikipedia has a fairly accurate, albeit shallow, account of the early events. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_Authority

 

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/feb/08/julian-assange-extradition-hearing-texts

The case for arrest had already successfully been through Swedens domestic courts , before the issue of the EAW

[SOTIRIOS]

...attacked...slandered...persecuted...for telling the truth that mainstream media never does....

 

...do you expect an honest account of this incident then...???

 

...you can find some of the truth behinds these heinous actions....by getting the link to Wikileaks Editor-in-Chief Press Conference...

 

...otherwise drink up the 'tales'....

 

...a sad day for all of humanity...

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, NeoDinosaw said:

On ‎4‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 5:14 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

I hope he sues that woman who said she had consensual sex with him, and then she said he raped her, and then she had consensual sex with him again.

So he had sex with her 3 times ?

I don't remember if it was 3 times or more. But I remember that she had sex with him before the so called rape. And she had consensual had sex with him days or weeks after the so called rape. I can't imagine that a woman who was raped by a guy wants to have sex with him after that so called rape.

 

Real rapist should go to jail. And women who ruin men's lives because they claim rape but there was no rape should also go to jail. This is too serious for stupid allegations.