Do you believe in God and why

[Tippaporn]

57 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Hmmmm. Only way a man could naturally be pregnant would require transplanting a female reproductive system into the man, and then he'd have to be given the hormones that his body doesn't produce for the duration of the pregnancy.

No matter the desires of a certain subsection of mankind, it's not going to happen, unless it's to a male looking hermaphrodite that just happens to have a functioning female reproductive system.

My reaction was due to my imaging a male hermaphrodite.  And the thought that there are probably people willing to believe in the existence of such a creature with all seriousness.

Otherwise, .

[Tippaporn]

4 hours ago, mauGR1 said:

I can see your point, yet what you call distortions, could be deliberate manipulations, bad translations, omissions, and sometimes just misunderstandings.

If, as i think, the reasons for being here on earth are learning and experiencing different ways of thinking, there's no wasted time, imho, in searching for the truth.

Did Seth mention dark ages, golden ages of humankind, and the challenges the human society as a whole is facing in these times ? 

The distortions I'm referring to are where a person's beliefs colour otherwise quite valid inner information.  Had Jane Roberts been a devout Catholic she could have interpreted Seth's information by clothing it in religious garb.  Thus distorting it.

True, there is no such thing as wasted time.  We're not in a race to anywhere.  On the other hand, I could see myself spending years trying to sift through distorted information.

Seth delivered information for over 20 years.  You can imagine the range of topics he was able to discuss over such a lengthy time frame.  He did mention the challenges we face today, though.  And his ideas about what would need to occur for mankind to blossom into a new age in which man used his inherent abilities and expansion of consciousness to create a much more ideal reality.

"Consciousness, by its nature, continually expands. The nature of consciousness as you understand it as a species will, in one way or another, lead you beyond your limited ideas of reality, for your experience will set challenges that cannot be solved within your current framework. Those problems set by one level of consciousness will automatically cause breakthroughs into other areas of conscious activity, where solutions can be found."
—UR1 Section 3: Session 697 May 13, 1974

 

What he's saying is that our current mass accepted ideas about the nature of our reality will not be sufficient to overcome our current challenges.  From the evidence I see of the direction this world is moving in I'm in full agreement.  Ideas such as men having the ability to become pregnant are just not going to cut it.

[mauGR1]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

None of us are 100 % innocent.

Agree, since we are part of a society, we are partly responsible for everything which is right or wrong.

[mauGR1]

49 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Consciousness, by its nature, continually expands. The nature of consciousness as you understand it as a species will, in one way or another, lead you beyond your limited ideas of reality, for your experience will set challenges that cannot be solved within your current framework. Those problems set by one level of consciousness will automatically cause breakthroughs into other areas of conscious activity, where solutions can be found."

Very much agree, it's going to be some very interesting and challenging years ahead.

I think i can understand why Seth's speeches resonate very well with you, as his use of wording sounds so simple and modern, well, in this case I've come to the same conclusions by spending time trying to decipher the meaning of much older teachings. 

Those unreliable leaders and politicians we were talking about are definitely a sign of the times.

[save the frogs]

9 hours ago, Sunmaster said:

Maybe you'll find this interesting....

please don't give me homework.

i watched 2 minutes of it and my initial impression is that he's completely fabricating everything.

not that past lives or atlantis doesn't necessarily exist.

but this guy looks like he's inventing stuff to make himself famous. 

i could be wrong, but i don't have time to watch.

[Sunmaster]

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

please don't give me homework.

i watched 2 minutes of it and my initial impression is that he's completely fabricating everything.

not that past lives or atlantis doesn't necessarily exist.

but this guy looks like he's inventing stuff to make himself famous. 

i could be wrong, but i don't have time to watch.

Fair enough. Strange though, I got the completely opposite vibe from him.

Disclaimer: I don't know much about him (so, not promoting his ideas per se), but I watched that video and felt he was being sincere.

[Hummin]

I have a question for the more religious and spiritually members here. 

 

How do you find this forum, with all the different members spewing in my eyes toxic posts day by day, never ending story. Why are we here continue the same story over and over, again and again, often days and weeks. 

 

Well this tread pauses naturally after awhile when we all had our say.

 

How do you cope with negativity in daily life? 

[mauGR1]

20 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have a question for the more religious and spiritually members here. 

 

How do you find this forum, with all the different members spewing in my eyes toxic posts day by day, never ending story. Why are we here continue the same story over and over, again and again, often days and weeks. 

 

Well this tread pauses naturally after awhile when we all had our say.

 

How do you cope with negativity in daily life? 

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to answer the question, but whenever i have to face some sort of subtle aggression, i hear Jesus saying " forgive them, cause they don't know what they are doing ".

In the same way, i forgive myself for my mistakes. 

Basically, all violence comes from fear and/or ignorance. 

I also feel that hate in my heart is an unnecessary weight, and a threat for my peace of mind, so forgiving is a must.

I'm not saying it's easy all the times, but, like everything, one can improve with practice. 

[Sunmaster]

37 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have a question for the more religious and spiritually members here. 

 

How do you find this forum, with all the different members spewing in my eyes toxic posts day by day, never ending story. Why are we here continue the same story over and over, again and again, often days and weeks. 

 

Well this tread pauses naturally after awhile when we all had our say.

 

How do you cope with negativity in daily life? 

Good question, but it should be open to everybody, not just the religious/spiritual ones.

This thread is the only thread I actively follow and the only forum I visit. 
I stopped following the news many years ago, and I think it was one of the best decisions I ever made. The daily bombardment of negative news is very bad for our mental state, in my opinion. It does absolutely nothing to improve our lives.

I think it's very important to be conscious or aware of the information my mind receives and I try to practice something like an ecology of the mind...or "a clean house" if you will. Stop negative drama from entering and at the same time keeping the house clean and in order by practicing meditation. 
Meditation, for me, doesn't just help me to clean the house, but it also helps me to discover new rooms and floors I didn't know existed before.

I consider myself a pretty good listener and that often attracts people who need to unload their drama on others. It's not easy to be compassionate on one hand and safeguard my own sanity on the other. 

That's basically how I cope with negativity in daily life.
 

Edited March 15, 2023 by Sunmaster

[Hummin]

13 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

Good question, but it should be open to everybody, not just the religious/spiritual ones.

This thread is the only thread I actively follow and the only forum I visit. 
I stopped following the news many years ago, and I think it was one of the best decisions I ever made. The daily bombardment of negative news is very bad for our mental state, in my opinion.

I think it's very important to be conscious or aware of the information my mind receives and I try to practice something like an ecology of the mind...or "a clean house" if you will. Stop negative drama from entering and at the same time keeping the house clean and in order by practicing meditation. 
Meditation, for me, doesn't just help me to clean the house, but it also helps me to discover new rooms and floors I didn't know existed before.

I consider myself a pretty good listener and that often attracts people who need to unload their drama on others. It's not easy to be compassionate on one hand and safeguard my own sanity on the other. 

That's basically how I cope with negativity in daily life.
 

I have been thinking making a thread based on those questions, but asked here first. 

 

And not really necessary to ask either, because those who so far never looked in to themselves because they where forced to for some reason, have often not the answers. Running away from responsibilities, shame, problems, accept the propaganda why the world is how it is, is to strong filters to penetrate. I have no high hope asking those questions to someone who is not willing to dig out whats truly inside themselves.

 

I carried alot of hate before, but It have fading slowly and  vanished completely by the last decade, as well as many other things i struggled with, and hopefully on a good path for the moment. I see things in a new light, and negativity doesnt bite anymore the same way as before, since I know Myself, my weakness as well strength.

 

What I have considered is to finely log off from here and also less social media and never look back, and spend more time on what I truly care for.

 

But then you have those few interactions that by time, actually influence you for the better. Not necessary a changing experience but polishing you a bit, and maybe see something in a new light.

 

 

Edited March 15, 2023 by Hummin

[Tippaporn]

46 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have a question for the more religious and spiritually members here. 

 

How do you find this forum, with all the different members spewing in my eyes toxic posts day by day, never ending story. Why are we here continue the same story over and over, again and again, often days and weeks. 

 

Well this tread pauses naturally after awhile when we all had our say.

 

How do you cope with negativity in daily life? 

Once you understand that there are only two things anyone could ever think about, and you realise that whatever it is you focus on becomes your experience, then it becomes quite easy.

Don't worry, don't hurry, and don't forget to smell the flowers.  Easy peasy.

[save the frogs]

55 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

Fair enough. Strange though, I got the completely opposite vibe from him.

maybe people try to gravitate a bit too much towards the "sexy stuff".

 

i recommend this book. it was written by a taxi driver. he's not an academic. he's not a buddhist, but he learned a few buddhist principles and he applies it to his life while contemplating on his life as a taxi driver. 

no outlandish claims about having visions of the virgin mary or talking to angels.

simple language.

and most importantly, uses it as a form of introspection on his own life.

 

 

[save the frogs]

22 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

I stopped following the news many years ago, and I think it was one of the best decisions I ever made. The daily bombardment of negative news is very bad for our mental state, in my opinion. It does absolutely nothing to improve our lives.

yes, that's correct.

but it's hard to avoid.

even forums like this are full of negative news.

pays the bills.

 

Edited March 15, 2023 by save the frogs

[Tippaporn]

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have been thinking making a thread based on those questions, but asked here first. 

 

And not really necessary to ask either, because those who so far never looked in to themselves because they where forced to for some reason, have often not the answers. Running away from responsibilities, shame, problems, accept the propaganda why the world is how it is, is to strong filters to penetrate. I have no high hope asking those questions to someone who is not willing to dig out whats truly inside themselves.

 

I carried alot of hate before, but It have fading slowly and  vanished completely by the last decade, as well as many other things i struggled with, and hopefully on a good path for the moment. I see things in a new light, and negativity doesnt bite anymore the same way as before, since I know Myself, my weakness as well strength.

 

What I have considered is to finely log off from here and also less social media and never look back, and spend more time on what I truly care for.

 

But then you have those few interactions that by time, actually influence you for the better. Not necessary a changing experience but polishing you a bit, and maybe see something in a new light.

You'll be back after a good rest.  It's like a good night's sleep.  You awaken with renewed vigor and find yourself ready to hit it again.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

I think one good thing is on this site, you can do what you cannot do in real life, and that is pick and choose topics and discussion with people and log off.

We all know that there are certain topics that appear with regularity, with a lot of horrendously boring and predictable replies that get 20 likes each, and so I avoid them, which is easy as I don't live in Thailand, but come from time to time, and though I may retire in the future, I don't feel invested in the minutiae of life here like others. 

I like some of the stuff in the Pub section. There are discussions in the Pub about life on the streets, if you will, but they involve issues of temptation, morality, honesty and fairness that could be discussed here. Same with some of the news stories. Then there are some that are simply lighthearted. I like stories too about potential retirement destinations. 

So it's not too hard to avoid negativity. But negativity can be good as we all feel that way on some topics and best not to pretend our thoughts and ideas are all sweetness and light. 

[Hummin]

7 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

You'll be back after a good rest.  It's like a good night's sleep.  You awaken with renewed vigor and find yourself ready to hit it again.

I do not feel I need it, I come to rest ☺️

 

It is good timing, to make new priorities. I got over 10k maybe more through two different nicknames, so I think I can say this is it.

 

I have put my seeds out carefully ????

Edited March 15, 2023 by Hummin

[save the frogs]

6 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

There are discussions in the Pub about life on the streets, if you will, but they involve issues of temptation, morality, honesty and fairness that could be discussed here. Same with some of the news stories.

with the tragic news stories, they would be far more interesting if we knew all the events leading up to the suicide/murder.

there's a whole lot of 'karma' behind those stories.

but we will never know. so it's just fear porn. 

[Sunmaster]

53 minutes ago, Hummin said:

But then you have those few interactions that by time, actually influence you for the better. Not necessary a changing experience but polishing you a bit, and maybe see something in a new light.

That's exactly it. 

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, save the frogs said:

please don't give me homework.

i watched 2 minutes of it and my initial impression is that he's completely fabricating everything.

not that past lives or atlantis doesn't necessarily exist.

but this guy looks like he's inventing stuff to make himself famous. 

i could be wrong, but i don't have time to watch.

Agree. I already spend far too much time on a forum and if I watched or read every linked article I'd never be away from the computer.

Some of us actually try to have lives apart from AN.

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

 

So it's not too hard to avoid negativity. But negativity can be good as we all feel that way on some topics and best not to pretend our thoughts and ideas are all sweetness and light. 

AN make it really easy to avoid the usual negative suspects. My AN experience improved immensely after I put about 20 of the posters that liked to attack me personally, rather than address the topic, on ignore.

The ones that are left are quite enough negativity for me to tolerate.

That also goes for those posters that complain about my negativity- just put me on ignore- problem solved.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, Hummin said:

I have a question for the more religious and spiritually members here. 

 

How do you find this forum, with all the different members spewing in my eyes toxic posts day by day, never ending story. Why are we here continue the same story over and over, again and again, often days and weeks. 

 

Well this tread pauses naturally after awhile when we all had our say.

 

How do you cope with negativity in daily life? 

Actually, the posters that I haven't put on ignore are nowhere as near negative as some of the people that I have to deal with on a daily basis. I can't deal with them, so I basically hide away and do things I can do inside. If I want to get away for a while, I'll go out into the country where there are no people at all- bliss.

When I have to shop, I use the few places that I know have pleasant staff, and there are a few out there, but that's because I live in a rural town and not in a toxic city. Every time I have to go into the city I feel like a part of my soul is being cut out of me. I don't understand how anyone can like living in such a toxic environment.

[save the frogs]

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agree. I already spend far too much time on a forum and if I watched or read every linked article I'd never be away from the computer.

Some of us actually try to have lives apart from AN.

Amen to that!

[mauGR1]

17 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps it's because humanity cares only about now, that humanity thinks a minor plague like covid which killed only a few million is a cosmically big deal.

We have had 50,000 years to become civilized and stop killing each other, but it's like we never left the cave. All we do is invent better ways of killing each other and polluting our environment.

That's one way to see a reality, but as few have pointed out magnificently, we have some power on the reality. 

Your wallet has power too, every little thing counts.

On the other hand, we know,  and we should accept that, as a physical entity, nobody gets out of here alive.

I think the common goal of spiritual science is to give one the tools ( you can choose those which you prefer ) to improve a " body" (we can call it soul) which is much better than the physical one we have, and apparently can last longer, and keep on improving forever. 

 

Now those souls are made of our thoughts, feelings, actions etc, and you are the programmer, so to speak.

So, yep, watching the news is not encouraging, and one has to find the courage and the power somewhere deep in his depths. 

[save the frogs]

FYI: 

has anyone mentioned "mantras" on this thread yet?

i came across this video by sadghuru.

i'll post the quote in case you don't have time to watch the video.

"In India, there are people that if you have a snake bite, just by uttering a mantra they will relieve you of the poison. Long distance."

Apparently, there was a guy in India who got famous doing this. 

 

[Felton Jarvis]

Religion is useful for scaring children into behaving.  Beyond that, I see no useful function. I was brought up Catholic, but by age 15, I decided that I didn't believe.

[Woof999]

On 3/15/2023 at 5:56 PM, Hummin said:

How do you find this forum, with all the different members spewing in my eyes toxic posts day by day, never ending story. Why are we here continue the same story over and over, again and again, often days and weeks. 

The first thing I do is to try and remind myself that they might just be having a bad day. Then there is the communications barrier. It's much easier to take the written word negatively compared to live conversation, especially with native English speakers where more is said by tone and body language than actual words. Add to that the fact it's a "faceless" internet forum and you're less likely to get a smack in the mouth with what you type than with what you say in a pub, I just accept it for what it is.

 

If the poster is forever negative and no amount of reasonable conversation would change it, I just smile at how positive my life has turned out. I'm not above stirring the pot, which I shouldn't, but I guess I'm still a child at heart. I hate negativity in my life. I steer away from it unless I can turn it into a positive.

 

How about you?

[Hummin]

35 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

The first thing I do is to try and remind myself that they might just be having a bad day. Then there is the communications barrier. It's much easier to take the written word negatively compared to live conversation, especially with native English speakers where more is said by tone and body language than actual words. Add to that the fact it's a "faceless" internet forum and you're less likely to get a smack in the mouth with what you type than with what you say in a pub, I just accept it for what it is.

 

If the poster is forever negative and no amount of reasonable conversation would change it, I just smile at how positive my life has turned out. I'm not above stirring the pot, which I shouldn't, but I guess I'm still a child at heart. I hate negativity in my life. I steer away from it unless I can turn it into a positive.

 

How about you?

I feel  incredibly lucky to. 

 

Impossible to know anything about other posters, unless they expose themselves over years little by little, and you see the same pattern and no change.

 

It is easy to believe some is stuck in the same routines, habits, and mood changes. 

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, Felton Jarvis said:

Religion is useful for scaring children into behaving.  Beyond that, I see no useful function. I was brought up Catholic, but by age 15, I decided that I didn't believe.

It's entirely possible to believe that God exists without conforming to a religion. Religions are man made constructs, while God is not.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, Hummin said:

I feel  incredibly lucky to. 

 

Impossible to know anything about other posters, unless they expose themselves over years little by little, and you see the same pattern and no change.

 

It is easy to believe some is stuck in the same routines, habits, and mood changes. 

Even then you will only know them as they are now. I'm a completely different person now than I was 50 years ago. No one gets as cynical as I in a few years- I've been working on it all my life.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, Woof999 said:

I hate negativity in my life. I steer away from it unless I can turn it into a positive.

 

How about you?

I think a lot of our own attitude comes from the people that surround us. If we have good parents we likely become good people and visa versa; if we go to a good school, we likely get educated and visa versa; if we work with good people we likely become good workers and visa versa; and if we are surrounded by bad people we likely either become bad ourselves, or we become intimidated, fearful and negative.