Do you believe in God and why

[Tippaporn]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:14 AM, Sunmaster said:

The only twilight zone is the space between your ears.

And I'm not even joking.

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I'm tellin' ya, Sunmaster.  Some of these posters are as transparent as glass.  There are certain tells which are unmistakable and let you know that these posters are a complete and utter waste of time to engage with.  My patience is much shorter than yours. 

[Sunmaster]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:19 AM, save the frogs said:

yep, and you're a hamster on a wheel.

we're on page 564.

KhunLa is still asking the same question.

and you think it's because people are slow

rather than admit that there's a problem with your explanations. 

 

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KhunLa's questions have been asked and answered several times here already. 

If the answers don't satisfy you, why are you still sticking around? Prey tell!

 

I know why. Its because your own answers to those questions don't satisfy you either. You're like a reptile whose old skin is becoming too tight, but not ready yet to shed it completely. 

[save the frogs]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:14 AM, Tippaporn said:

In any case, you come here with the sole intention of disparaging everyone here.  You create endless conspiracy theories and never back them up with anything other than your divisive and derogatory opinions.  We're gurus.  We're false prophets.  We're just trying to deceive people.  We're attempting to make ourselves look smart.  And again, all you have is your opinion.  Which, quite frankly, is worthless.  And embarrassing.

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The thread speaks for itself. After 564 pages, people are still asking "what is God?"

You think it's because people are stupid.

Maybe it's because your answers are stupid. 

 

 

[Sunmaster]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:24 AM, save the frogs said:

The thread speaks for itself. After 564 pages, people are still asking "what is God?"

You think it's because people are stupid.

Maybe it's because your answers are stupid. 

 

 

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And you still keep on reading those stupid answers, again and again, knowing that they are stupid.

What does that make you then?

[save the frogs]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:22 AM, Sunmaster said:

If the answers don't satisfy you, why are you still sticking around? Prey tell!

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To point out that your answers are stupid and useless. 

 

Also, I was trying to steer the conversation differently.

I mentioned 20 pages ago that people need to stop talking about God and focus on other things.

 

[Tippaporn]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:24 AM, save the frogs said:

The thread speaks for itself. After 564 pages, people are still asking "what is God?"

You think it's because people are stupid.

Maybe it's because your answers are stupid.

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Uhm, we know what's stupid in this thread.  And it ain't our answers.

At this point, save the frogs, you're just trolling now.  But I know, you're shameless.

[Sunmaster]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:26 AM, save the frogs said:

To point out that your answers are stupid and useless. 

 

Also, I was trying to steer the conversation differently.

I mentioned 20 pages ago that people need to stop talking about God and focus on other things.

 

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Cool, why not start your own thread and teach people how to best waste their time then?

[save the frogs]

God is timeless.

Time is timeless.

Time is Godless.

God is blabbedy blah blah blah.

Hope that answers all your questions about God.

Class dismissed.

Ok, I'm outta here.

 

[Sunmaster]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:32 AM, save the frogs said:

God is timeless.

Time is timeless.

Time is Godless.

God is blabbedy blah blah blah.

Hope that answers all your questions about God.

Class dismissed.

Ok, I'm outta here.

 

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And he'll be back in 3....2....1......

????

 

[Tippaporn]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:32 AM, save the frogs said:

God is timeless.

Time is timeless.

Time is Godless.

God is blabbedy blah blah blah.

Hope that answers all your questions about God.

Class dismissed.

Ok, I'm outta here.

 

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Don't let the door hit you in the ar$e on the way out.

[Tippaporn]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:35 AM, Sunmaster said:

And he'll be back in 3....2....1......

????

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I think he's outta here for good this time.  It went very much south for him.  He's got his tail between his legs now.

[Confuscious]

Every year, as i apply for my visa extension, my believe in God sinks deeper and deeper.....

[Sunmaster]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:43 AM, Confuscious said:

Every year, as i apply for my visa extension, my believe in God sinks deeper and deeper.....

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It's a test, @Confuscious ????????

[Sunmaster]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:42 AM, Tippaporn said:

I think he's outta here for good this time.  It went very much south for him.  He's got his tail between his legs now.

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Well, whatever he decides to do, I wish him well. I hope he'll find the question to his questions. 

[Tippaporn]

  On 3/20/2023 at 11:51 AM, Sunmaster said:

Well, whatever he decides to do, I wish him well. I hope he'll find the question to his questions. 

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All's well.

[save the frogs]

  On 3/20/2023 at 2:29 AM, Sunmaster said:

Why only children? You can ask why God created cancer for all. Or simply ask, why did God create death. 
Should everything created last forever? Would that be practical? Would you want to be immortal? Why?

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ok, that's actually a good comment.

one day they might crack the code of immortality and maybe people will complain and get bored.

 

to be fair though, we don't have the answer as to why there is so much war and other atrocities taking place.

makes God look bad.

 

[save the frogs]

  On 3/20/2023 at 2:21 AM, KhunLA said:

I'm not seeing the good works of GOD, if exists, then the Devil is kicking his A$$ in human's world. 

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you hit the nail on the head.

it makes no sense just to talk about GOD as some positive entity and ignore all the evil in the world.

so a conversation of "the devil" is necessary.

but what is the "the devil"?

bad news: nobody knows.

just as nobody knows what God is. 

so we will just go around in circles. 

oh wait ... let's call up Mick Jagger ... maybe he knows what the devil is.

 

[Elad]

  On 3/19/2023 at 4:26 PM, Sunmaster said:

The relativity of simultaneity seems to be a condition unique to the physical/material universe or 3D (4D if you count time). The timelessness Tippaporn is talking about(Ithink), becomes plausible when talking about higher dimensions (5D+). 

In essence, the relativity of simultaneity is bound to 3D and doesn't apply to 5D+.

 

In that sense, you may be both right.

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In relativity we use a 4D spacetime manifold, which seems to be the universe we live in. Observers won't agree on the times and lengths between events but they will all agree that two events have an invariant spacetime separation.

You can actually apply extra spatial dimensions in relativity and it doesn't make any difference it just makes the math harder, Leonard Susskind does just that in some of his lectures on relativity.

 

If you or Tippaporn have a personal theory of time then the relativity of simultaneity shouldn't be used as an example for it. 

It's nice to think about higher dimensions but how do you know they exist? 

 

 

[Sunmaster]

  On 3/20/2023 at 1:58 PM, Elad said:

It's nice to think about higher dimensions but how do you know they exist? 

 

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To try to answer that, we have to make sure we agree on the definition of "higher dimensions", so there can't be any misunderstandings later.

[Elad]

  On 3/20/2023 at 2:03 AM, Tippaporn said:

What you have not considered yet, logically deduced from the fact that you have not addressed this very crucial point, is my statement that you, and we, are always in the NOW.  We are never outside of it.  Our experience is always in the present moment.  Our experience doesn't occur in the past, nor does it occur in the future.  Our experience occurs only in the present moment.  That fact must be accounted for, included in any equation which attempts to define and explain the reality of time.

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We are actually always looking into our past lightcone. If you are talking to a friend who is stood 1 m away from you, then it takes light about 2 nano seconds to reach your eyes and then your brain has to process that information, so in that sense, everything you do in your life what you think is the now, is actually slightly in the past. 

[scottiejohn]

  On 3/20/2023 at 2:10 PM, Elad said:

We are actually always looking into our past lightcone. If you are talking to a friend who is stood 1 m away from you, then it takes light about 2 nano seconds to reach your eyes and then your brain has to process that information, so in that sense, everything you do in your life what you think is the now, is actually slightly in the past. 

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Not if you mean this "Lightcone" which also has other options!

[Elad]

  On 3/20/2023 at 2:28 PM, scottiejohn said:

Not if you mean this "Lightcone" which also has other options!

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Yes, that is a 3D lightcone 1 time and two space. For a 4D lightcone those cones would become spheres. When I look at my friend, Im looking slightly into the past lightcone. What other options does it have?

[Sunmaster]

  On 3/20/2023 at 3:26 PM, Elad said:

Yes, that is a 3D lightcone 1 time and two space. For a 4D lightcone those cones would become spheres. When I look at my friend, Im looking slightly into the past lightcone. What other options does it have?

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I'm not familiar with this theory. 

How do you know that the observer in 4D or higher would experience time as in 3D?

[Elad]

  On 3/20/2023 at 2:10 PM, Sunmaster said:

To try to answer that, we have to make sure we agree on the definition of "higher dimensions", so there can't be any misunderstandings later.

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It's hard to visualize any higher dimensions, but some people think the universe is expanding into another dimension. Whats your definition? 

[Elad]

  On 3/20/2023 at 3:45 PM, Sunmaster said:

I'm not familiar with this theory. 

How do you know that the observer in 4D or higher would experience time as in 3D?

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It's how we visualize it in Minkowski spacetime, if you look at the lightcone above, all events within the lightcone are time-like and can be causally connected, events that occur on the edge of the lightcone are light-like which could be connected by light signal. Events that occur outside the lightcone are space-like and these events cannot be causally connected. This is all part of special relativity.

[Sunmaster]

  On 3/20/2023 at 3:45 PM, Elad said:

It's hard to visualize any higher dimensions, but some people think the universe is expanding into another dimension. Whats your definition? 

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Yes, I imagine it to be like that, with the only difference that the expansion is not something developing in time in a linear fashion, but already present, fully formed and organized at all times.

[Sunmaster]

  On 3/20/2023 at 3:53 PM, Elad said:

It's how we visualize it in Minkowski spacetime, if you look at the lightcone above, all events within the lightcone are time-like and can be causally connected, events that occur on the edge of the lightcone are light-like which could be connected by light signal. Events that occur outside the lightcone are space-like and these events cannot be causally connected. This is all part of special relativity.

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I don't know the background of this theory, so it's hard to wrap my head around this. Let's not make it too academic please. ????

[Sunmaster]

  On 3/20/2023 at 3:45 PM, Elad said:

It's hard to visualize any higher dimensions, but some people think the universe is expanding into another dimension. Whats your definition? 

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You say "some people think". What do you think? 

[Elad]

  On 3/20/2023 at 4:05 PM, Sunmaster said:

I don't know the background of this theory, so it's hard to wrap my head around this. Let's not make it too academic please. ????

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I'm no Einstein trust me ???? but I have been studying physics part time for the last 9 years or so, I'm no expert but I dare say I know more than the average person when it comes to physics.

In Minkowski spacetime, the time axis becomes a length so its has the same units as the x,y,z, and when you measure the spacetime separation between events from any inertial reference frame its an invariant quantity.

Events with a positive >0 separation are time-like

Events with a zero (or null) separation are light-like

Events with a negative <0 separation are space-like.

I can't really go into it anymore without using some math ????   

[Sunmaster]

  On 3/20/2023 at 4:41 PM, Elad said:

I can't really go into it anymore without using some math ????

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That's OK, thanks. ????????