webfact Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Election results set for Tuesday By THE NATION File photto PARTY-LIST MPS TO BE ANNOUNCED THE FOLLOWING DAY; CHARTER COURT TO HEAR CASE AGAINST MP ELECTION LAW THE ELECTION Commission (EC) will announce the final election results next Tuesday, a day after the Royal Coronation ceremony, amid the current political turbulence heightened by lawsuits and the uncertainty over allocation of MP seats. The agency deputy secretary-general Nat Laosisavakul yesterday said the long-awaited poll results would be officially announced on two separate days. The Constitution demands that the EC endorse the constituency MPs first before proceeding to determine the number of party-list MPs each party would have, he explained. Hence, the agency would next Tuesday endorse the winners of at least 95 per cent of the 350 constituencies. The 150 successful party-list MPs, meanwhile, will be announced on the following day, he said. The schedule will meet the deadline imposed by the Constitution, which stipulates the election must be completed within 150 days of the electoral laws taking effect. However, the debate over the calculation of party-list seats continues. While political observers and stakeholders are protesting against the calculation method proposed to be used by the EC, the agency has stood its ground, insisting the formula has been endorsed by the original law drafters. Claims of a contradiction between the Constitution and the MP Election law has resulted in the current controversy. The dispute over calculation was taken to the Constitutional Court by the Ombudsman, and the court yesterday agreed to hear the case and rule whether the MP Election law violated the Constitution. The verdict, the court said, would be delivered next Wednesday – the same day the EC would announce its allocation of party-list seats. The EC deputy secretary-general said the agency would not wait until the Constitutional Court gave a judgement. The endorsement had to be made on Wednesday, following the constitutional timeframe, he explained. Meanwhile, post-election scrutiny continues, though the election results are set to be announced in less than a week. The law has left room for the authority to clear these up, with the stipulation allowing the official announcement of 95 per cent of results. Re-runs of elections and recounts in embattled constituencies will take place after the announcement. Chiang Mai, for instance, will have a constituency election re-run on May 26. The EC decided on a re-run and that date after the winning candidate in the March 24 poll, Suraphol Kiatchaiyakorn from Pheu Thai Party, was disqualified for giving a cash gift to a temple – an act the EC said was prohibited under the law. Suraphol will be banned from running in elections for one year. Other candidates running in the March 24 election are re-contesting in the constituency and no registration for new candidates will be opened, according to the poll agency. Meanwhile, in a Nakhon Pathom constituency where a recount last week had become confusing, a re-run was a possibility. Future Forward candidate Savika Limpasuwanna yesterday lodged a complaint with the poll authority in Nakhon Pathom to consider a re-election in the constituency, citing inconsistency in the counting. Savika had come second in the first count, 147 votes behind a Democrat candidate. In recount, she did not win but the difference was down to 62 votes. She said irregularities had occurred during the counting and recounting and the inconsistent numbers also make the outcome unacceptable. Savika demanded that the agency arrange a new election to ensure fairness and transparency, while the Nakhon Pathom case has ignited doubt about the country-wide poll. In a related development, the EC also disqualified 11 candidates from several political parties, citing they were either members of two parties or members of the party they represented for less than 90 days. Four candidates were from Palang Rak Thai, two from Palang Chatthai and one each from Palang Puangchon Thai, Prachatham Thai, Seri Ruam Thai, Chatpatta and Ruamjai Thai, according to the EC. None of them was successful in the March 24 general election and so no re-elections were deemed necessary, but the votes gained by them would be invalidated and would not be included in the party-list seat calculation. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30368781 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-05-03 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted May 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, webfact said: Election results set for Tuesday simple question how can you trust election results when those in power own everyone Thailand has in the past had independent international checks what happened 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted May 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2019 Any wild guesses who will be in power after Wednesday? Sorry, just being sarcastic, we knew even before the "election" was announced. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a977 Posted May 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2019 Can't have the results announced before the coronation the result might have Pinocchio throw a hissy fit if he wasn't allowed front and centre photo op. After all isn't this what it's been about all along? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eligius Posted May 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) Election 'results' (we know already who will be the winner, anyway) to be announced on Tuesday and Wednesday - and then the furious reaction of the public will finally kick off (in relatively small numbers over the ensuing months) ... No way could any turmoil and 'confusion' (which the junta have of course healed and banished) ever begin again! Edited May 3, 2019 by Eligius 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 The EC will have learned to count by then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 The EC should indeed be an independent body and seen to be by the public, is that the case? Can anything here be seen to be free of Government interference or influence? Just asking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cadbury Posted May 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2019 so after some creative post election adjustments, recounts, disqualifications and last minute tweaking the junta has given the nod to the EC to announce the results. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eligius Posted May 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, Cadbury said: so after some creative post election adjustments, recounts, disqualifications and last minute tweaking the junta has given the nod to the EC to announce the results. Yes, Cadbury - correct (above). Even a little baby, mewling and squawking in its mother's arms, knows that the fix is in! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SABloke Posted May 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) So let's be "clear" about this: The constituency MP's will be announced on the 7th of May. The court will decide if the party-list calculation method is legal and announce its findings on the 8th. The party list MP's will be announced on the 8th. (Regardless of whether the calculation is legal or not, because they legally have to finish the election within the 150 day time frame. More voting will take place on the 26th of May - just a tad after the 150 days. Clear as mud ???? Edited May 3, 2019 by SABloke 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Same as a weather warning : High potential for a flood.....of tears. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter14 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I fear civil war if Prayut remains.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, peter14 said: I fear civil war if Prayut remains.... Rumoured that he wouldn't remain together with the other obnoxious P. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eligius Posted May 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, peter14 said: I fear civil war if Prayut remains.... I don't see enough simmering fury for that, Peter14 (above). Generally, most Thais I know are far from incandescent with outrage at what is going on (which is not to say that they necessarily like or approve it). But some Thais are very angry indeed - and so when the time comes, there WILL be a number of brave rebellious souls (a tiny minority of the overall population) who will publicly dissent and who will publicly be dealt with. It won't be pretty (or just) ... Edited May 3, 2019 by Eligius 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, peter14 said: I fear civil war if Prayut remains.... Don't make me laugh. Thailand doesnt have the stomach for that sacrifice. This is, after all, the land of 'maibenrai' They care mostly about important things like the price of somtom and whether they are up-to-date with the latest fashion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Srikcir Posted May 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2019 6 hours ago, webfact said: The EC deputy secretary-general said the agency would not wait until the Constitutional Court gave a judgement. The endorsement had to be made on Wednesday, following the constitutional timeframe The EC decides which parts of the Constitution it will honor. It will also call the election results even though there will be redo elections at the end of May and MP seats being legally contested. The EC decides whose vote is important and who's not. The EC is truly 'independent' ... from the Thai electorate. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yellowboat Posted May 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2019 A prediction of green wet blankets will win further stymieing Thailand's future, what future, development. It was a fun country while it lasted. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 43 minutes ago, Eligius said: I don't see enough simmering fury for that, Peter14 (above). Generally, most Thais I know are far from incandescent with outrage at what is going on (which is not to say that they necessarily like or approve it). But some Thais are very angry indeed - and so when the time comes, there WILL be a number of brave rebellious souls (a tiny minority of the overall population) who will publicly dissent and who will publicly be dealt with. It won't be pretty (or just) ... Agreed. There will be some martyrs "to the cause" without any effective change in outcome. At least not this time around so long as there is no return to riots. It is a shame that the orchestration could not tolerate an alternative style of interpretation by the conductor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said: Agreed. There will be some martyrs "to the cause" without any effective change in outcome. At least not this time around so long as there is no return to riots. It is a shame that the orchestration could not tolerate an alternative style of interpretation by the conductor. One of the cleverest (and most pertinent) posts I've seen in a long while (above)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 It is quite obvious by this delay that the people spoke, and the army got crushed. So, how will they cover that up? How will they steal the power they so desperately want? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: It is quite obvious by this delay that the people spoke, and the army got crushed. So, how will they cover that up? How will they steal the power they so desperately want? A silent coup will upset the apple cart but does nothing to improve the democratic future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutz Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 The cherry picking of articles and laws by the EC, the cherry picking of how and to who to apply those. The lack of any real transparency, the many discounts and announcement made in error, the delays... we already know who they will announce as winner. These elections... just... when will it be enough? The only solution seems a mass uprising, not by the tens of thousands but by the millions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 So they are betting on Thais being too hungover not to climb the barricades on that day? Fear not, the placid population ain't going to do anything even if you give all seats to Prayuth just for the hell of it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kaopad999 Posted May 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2019 If the Junta was really serious about a democratic vote, then he would never have nominated himself as a candidate in the first place. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 8 hours ago, smedly said: simple question how can you trust election results when those in power own everyone Thailand has in the past had independent international checks what happened A coup 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 5 hours ago, peter14 said: I fear civil war if Prayut remains.... Then you need to give up whatever it is your imbibing. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 3 hours ago, spidermike007 said: It is quite obvious by this delay that the people spoke, and the army got crushed. So, how will they cover that up? How will they steal the power they so desperately want? Not according to the initial results it wasn't. The army, polling the highest number of votes, certainly didn't get crushed. FFP did fantastic for a new party and the Shins polled about half what they did before. The Dems got crushed. What's been the hold up is errors, ineffective inefficient processes. lack of responsibility and accountability etc etc and the apparent lack of an agreed way to calculate the dinosaur party list seats. Throw in the usual skulduggery, appeals to lawsuits and demands for this that and the other and you are where you are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wilsonandson Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 And the winner is ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubon farang Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Latest odds who retain power Government 5/4 Opposition 500-1 and i am being generous to the opposition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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