What's my visa type?

[Oxx]

I originally had a B visa and was working in Thailand.  I subsequently retired, and extensions of stay have been on that basis.  Am I still classified as "B visa", and so unaffected by the silly new insurance requirement which explicitly mentions O-A visas?

[jacko45k]

As you are on an Extension you are unaffected. Insurance is only being required for those applying for Non-Imm O-A Visas. This is done in your home country only. 

[ubonjoe]

You have been extending the entry your got from a non-b visa.

You did not apply for a OA visa at a embassy or consulate. That is the only way you can get a OA visa.

[elviajero]

You currently have nothing to worry about. 

 

The proposed insurance is only for visitors  buying a non-immigrant category O-A visa — from a Thai Embassy outside of Thailand — to enter the country. This is sometimes called a “Retirement Visa”.

 

There is currently no proposal for people (you) — applying at an immigration office in Thailand to extend their stay based on retirement — to have insurance. This permit (“extension of stay”) is also sometimes called a “Retirement Visa”, OR a “O-A Visa”.

 

The category of non-immigrant visa (B) that you originally used to enter the country is not important.

[dick dasterdly]

My latest renewal stamp (Feb. '19) doesn't mention 'O' or 'OA'!

 

How the hell are we supposed to know??

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

How the hell are we supposed to know??

Just look at your extension stamp. It states it is an extension of your permit stay since it is not a visa of any kind.

[dick dasterdly]

5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Just look at your extension stamp. It states it is an extension of your permit stay since it is not a visa of any kind.

Yes, it says "EXTENSION OR STAY PERMITTED UP TO 22 FEB 2020" etc.  I'm not shouting - the quote from my passport is in caps.

There is no mention as to the type of extension/visa, as far as I can see!

 

Edit - my mistake, as it does have 'retirement' stamped at the top.

 

[Peterw42]

6 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

My latest renewal stamp (Feb. '19) doesn't mention 'O' or 'OA'!

 

How the hell are we supposed to know??

How are you supposed to know what ???

I am presuming you are on an Extension of stay.

Your visa finished years ago, you are no longer on a visa.

An extension of stay has nothing to do with your previous visa. why would O or OA be written on an extension.

 

 

[Peterw42]

2 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Edit - my mistake, as it does have 'retirement' stamped at the top.

Thats the reason for your extension, not anything to do with a visa.

 

[dick dasterdly]

2 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

How are you supposed to know what ???

I am presuming you are on an Extension of stay.

Your visa finished years ago, you are no longer on a visa.

An extension of stay has nothing to do with your previous visa. why would O or OA be written on an extension.

 

 

You're deliberately missing the point....☹️

 

More than a few of us are concerned as to our 'visa' status for obvious reasons.  I made it very clear in my original post that I was here on 'extensions', and so had no idea as to how I was categorised for visa purposes.

[Peterw42]

1 minute ago, dick dasterdly said:

You're deliberately missing the point....☹️

 

More than a few of us are concerned as to our 'visa' status for obvious reasons.  I made it very clear in my original post that I was here on 'extensions', and so had no idea as to how I was categorised for visa purposes.

But there is no visa status, there is no visa. You dont have a category for visa purposes. You are on an extension of stay, its not an extension of a visa.

Its like you are asking what type of car you are travelling in when you are in a boat.

[doctormann]

Interestingly, when you fill out your TM7, which is the application for extension of stay, one of the things that you have  specify is 'Type of Visa' so you have to put something in there.

For the last 12 years I have put 'Non-Immigrant O-A' because that was my original visa, back in 2004.  Maybe better to just put 'Non-Immigrant O' next time?  I don't really know.

[userabcd]

16 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Yes, it says "EXTENSION OR STAY PERMITTED UP TO 22 FEB 2020" etc.  I'm not shouting - the quote from my passport is in caps.

There is no mention as to the type of extension/visa, as far as I can see!

 

Check your original visa from the embassy stuck in your passport. It is the root of your annual extension.

[dick dasterdly]

19 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Just look at your extension stamp. It states it is an extension of your permit stay since it is not a visa of any kind.

I think I may be being very 'slow' here ☹️.

 

So you're saying that I don't need to worry about visa types, as I'm no longer on any visa type? 

[Peterw42]

3 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

I think I may be being very 'slow' here ☹️.

 

So you're saying that I don't need to worry about visa types, as I'm no longer on any visa type? 

YES, thats it.

My original visa was an OA (3 passports ago), I am currently on a marriage extension of stay, they have nothing to do with each other.

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

I think I may be being very 'slow' here ☹️.

 

So you're saying that I don't need to worry about visa types, as I'm no longer on any visa type? 

Yes!

To be fair...lot of people get confused. Even imm put stamp with "RETIREMENT".

Added to that in bars etc people will say that they are on "a retirement visa". They are actually on 12 month permission of stay based on retirement. 

Your on this......no visa

[elviajero]

15 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

How are you supposed to know what ???

I am presuming you are on an Extension of stay.

Your visa finished years ago, you are no longer on a visa.

An extension of stay has nothing to do with your previous visa. why would O or OA be written on an extension.

An extension of stay has everything to do with the “previous visa”.

 

Without a non-immigrant visa you can’t apply for an extension of stay based on retirement. And the category of the “previous visa” can determine the reason you can extend your stay.

[elviajero]

6 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Yes!

To be fair...lot of people get confused. Even imm put stamp with "RETIREMENT".

Added to that in bars etc people will say that they are on "a retirement visa". They are actually on 12 month permission of stay based on retirement. 

Your on this......no visa

To be fair, telling someone they don’t have a visa when they do confuses people even more.

 

They have a visa that they used to enter the country, AND a permit granting an extension of stay.

[doctormann]

5 minutes ago, elviajero said:

An extension of stay has everything to do with the “previous visa”.

 

Without a non-immigrant visa you can’t apply for an extension of stay based on retirement. And the category of the “previous visa” can determine the reason you can extend your stay.

Which would explain why this has to be specified on the TM7.

[elviajero]

19 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

I think I may be being very 'slow' here ☹️.

 

So you're saying that I don't need to worry about visa types, as I'm no longer on any visa type? 

No you don’t need to worry. But your “visa type” is a non-immigrant visa.

[dick dasterdly]

1 minute ago, elviajero said:

An extension of stay has everything to do with the “previous visa”.

 

Without a non-immigrant visa you can’t apply for an extension of stay based on retirement. And the category of the “previous visa” can determine the reason you can extend your stay.

That's what I thought too.  But perhaps we are wrong?

[Peterw42]

41 minutes ago, elviajero said:

An extension of stay has everything to do with the “previous visa”.

 

Without a non-immigrant visa you can’t apply for an extension of stay based on retirement. And the category of the “previous visa” can determine the reason you can extend your stay.

I have an extension of stay based on marriage and I didnt have a marriage visa prior. Lots of people go from a working visa to a retire extn. 

Yes a non imm is required to then get an extension but the type doesn't matter, people enter on O marrige then get retire extension etc.

 

The reason for the O visa isnt written on the visa

[userabcd]

2 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

I have an extension of stay based on marriage and I didnt have a marriage visa prior. Lots of people go from a working visa to a retire extn. 

Yes a non imm is required to then get an extension but the type doesn't matter, people enter on O marrige then get retire extension etc.

There is no marriage visa.

[Peterw42]

4 minutes ago, userabcd said:

There is no marriage visa.

There is an O visa issued because of marriage, to visit wife etc. but yes, its not actually called a marriage visa. It still doesn't effect what extension of stay you apply for later, which was the point I was making..

[Peterw42]

58 minutes ago, doctormann said:

Which would explain why this has to be specified on the TM7.

Its not category of previous visa on TM7, its type O, OA etc. You write Nonimm O, not how you got the O visa.

[doctormann]

2 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Its not category of previous visa on TM7, its type O, OA etc. You write Nonimm O, not how you got the O visa.

Thank you, I shall do that when I attempt to renew in June.

[seancbk]

2 hours ago, doctormann said:

Interestingly, when you fill out your TM7, which is the application for extension of stay, one of the things that you have  specify is 'Type of Visa' so you have to put something in there.

For the last 12 years I have put 'Non-Immigrant O-A' because that was my original visa, back in 2004.  Maybe better to just put 'Non-Immigrant O' next time?  I don't really know.

 Or just Non-Immigrant.  

 

[robertson468]

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

As you are on an Extension you are unaffected. Insurance is only being required for those applying for Non-Imm O-A Visas. This is done in your home country only. 

Yet again, false information.  The A-O can be done at Immigration Bangkok.  I do wish people would look up the rules before writing and misleading memebers.

[jacko45k]

10 minutes ago, robertson468 said:

Yet again, false information.  The A-O can be done at Immigration Bangkok.  I do wish people would look up the rules before writing and misleading memebers.

That is exactly what you have just done. I think you have been misled by some old incorrect information on a ministry website. Ubonjoe posted about this here...

 

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, robertson468 said:

Yet again, false information.  The A-O can be done at Immigration Bangkok.  I do wish people would look up the rules before writing and misleading memebers.

I assume you mean O-A visa.

They are never available in Thailand.

Only from home countries and sometimes to permanent residents of other (not Thai) countries.

 

I do wish people would look up the rules before writing and misleading memebers.