Popular Post overherebc Posted May 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2019 49 minutes ago, klauskunkel said: Being able to read is one thing, understanding what was read is on a whole different level I did one of those 'speed reading' courses and read 'War and Peace' in 90 minutes. Great book, it's about Russia. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said: Looks like he is reading the David Cameron edition and confused himself???? Doubt that, he suffers from foot in mouth, not the act accredited to DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, overherebc said: I did one of those 'speed reading' courses and read 'War and Peace' in 90 minutes. Great book, it's about Russia. Seems then the course wasn't a complete waste of time... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inactiveposter Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I’m reminded of an old joke about Richard Nixon. ”There was a fire in the Nixon Library last night and both books burned...and he hadn’t finished coloring one of them!” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Jones Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 5 hours ago, AlexRich said: Pigs with their nose in the trough? "Big Joke" went for 1984. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, Artisi said: Seems then the course wasn't a complete waste of time... I admit I might have missed some of the more trivial points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Jones Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, overherebc said: I did one of those 'speed reading' courses and read 'War and Peace' in 90 minutes. Great book, it's about Russia. I read a dictionary once. Boring as all get-out but at least it explained things as it went along - - - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) I am aware of the implication G. Orwell intended as he was a democratic socialist. Basically he just didn't like the regime or Stalin. However, there have been many interpretations over the years so I don't intend to discuss that. What amazes me is what this junta comes out with; not long ago it was advised (by the army) to listen to the song Paen Din, now it's advice about reading a novel about animals. I'm surprised they don't come out with Cinderella and the midnight deadline, or Alice through the Looking glass. (The latter was written by a Mathematician/Logician so I doubt 'this lot' could understand it, Ha!). Am I correct in saying that a student questioned because he was reading '1984'? Perhaps 'this lot' should start reading books that are truly educational...how about this for a start: Ha! Edited May 31, 2019 by TKDfella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lenny Jones said: I read a dictionary once. Boring as all get-out but at least it explained things as it went along - - - Wish I had read it. Many years ago my secretary at the time once asked if she could borrow my dictaphone. When I replied no, use your finger as normal I nearly lost my job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, TKDfella said: I am aware of the implication G. Orwell intended as he was a democratic socialist. Basically he just didn't like the regime or Stalin. However, there have been many interpretations over the years so I don't intend to discuss that. What amazes me is what this junta comes out with; not long ago it was advised (by the army) to listen to the song Paen Din, now it's advice about reading a novel about animals. I'm surprised they don't come out with Cinderella and the midnight deadline, or Alice through the Looking glass. (The latter was written by a Mathematician/Logician so I doubt 'this lot' could understand it, Ha!). Am I correct in saying that a student questioned because he was reading '1984'? Perhaps 'this lot' should start reading books that are truly educational...how about this for a start: Ha! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Does not seem to be available in the shops I looked in yesterday, maybe they keep it under the counter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocddave Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I have to wonder what the Elite are thinking, they have this unintelligent megalomaniac nutjob as their protector, and he is one step away from total control of the country. What exactly do they think will happen when he eventually turns on them? Think Stalin, but with less brains, little if any common sense, lack of self-control, and oblivious to his own authoritarianism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Time to go back to the barracks... as time goes by people are starting to see the intelligence level isn't up to the required level for PM.. only enough for barking out orders! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotsdermatter Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 5 hours ago, AlexRich said: Pigs with their nose in the trough? They also eat their own faecal material. 'nuf sed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phkauf Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 19 minutes ago, ocddave said: I have to wonder what the Elite are thinking, they have this unintelligent megalomaniac nutjob as their protector, and he is one step away from total control of the country. What exactly do they think will happen when he eventually turns on them? Think Stalin, but with less brains, little if any common sense, lack of self-control, and oblivious to his own authoritarianism. I think the Thai phrase "Som Nam Na" would be appropriate for the Elite. Sadly everyone else will have to deal with the repercussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonltr Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 One section of Animal Farm is stuck in my memory forever. When the pigs took over from the humans they said: "Two legs bad, four legs better" But having eaten from the full trough and enjoyed the power they stood on hind legs and changed to" "Four legs good two legs better" Quite a good analogy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Oink! Oink! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonltr Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 51 minutes ago, Lemonltr said: One section of Animal Farm is stuck in my memory forever. When the pigs took over from the humans they said: "Two legs bad, four legs better" But having eaten from the full trough and enjoyed the power they stood on hind legs and changed to" "Four legs good two legs better" Quite a good analogy. My small mistake. "Four legs good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 5 hours ago, DoctorG said: Does he really think that the book is about animals? Do you know the word "metaphor"? Met her for what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 How apropos! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 6 hours ago, rkidlad said: And this is what the Thai people need to be doing. Every mistake he makes, every time he ‘misspeaks’, etc; the Thai people need to be on top of it. They need to criticize and pass judgment. This is after all what we call democracy. If the PM doesn’t like it, he can change his ways, or even better, he can quit. The kids that made the Prathet Guu Me video and those Thais who understood it may be able to buy into your post. Everyone else? Sorry man, the proles are dumbed down beyond belief, and not just in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Words fail me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I think he missed the point. Orwell didn't write it as a blueprint! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaksimMislavsky Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 10 hours ago, webfact said: The novel is about farm animals that are treated badly, overworked and underfed by their human owners. The animals are led by a pig to revolt against the farmers, by overthrowing the men and taking over the farm themselves. Pigs take over the administration of farm and assign different duties to all the animals. Yet their rule proves no better than that of humans, although they claimed democracy, equality, etc. His point seems clear and quite valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, connda said: The kids that made the Prathet Guu Me video and those Thais who understood it may be able to buy into your post. Everyone else? Sorry man, the proles are dumbed down beyond belief, and not just in Thailand. Yes indeed, Connda (above). The tiny less-than-1% of Power Wielders want to keep the bulk of the population ill-informed, ignorant, docile (distracted by 'games' and 'selfies' on their mobile phones) and intellectually powerless. Then it is all the easier to dominate and control - and brainwash - them. It is so, so sad when one sees young children - Thai or otherwise - with all that natural curiosity and eagerness to learn about this amazing world, and then to see that native curiosity largely expunged, systematically wiped clean from their brains. Only inhuman monsters could do this to other human beings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 A troll post containing a disallowed reference to the PM has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 If he has actually read the book , which I doubt , then he clearly misunderstood its message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 23 hours ago, soalbundy said: It lies in the humane spirit that we, or most of us, would become Napoleons given absolute power which is why checks and balances are essential in any political system. The chaos that is the modern democratic landscape works reasonably well for society. Napoleon wasn't given power, he seized it by force, inhumanely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneking Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 On 5/31/2019 at 1:21 PM, Baerboxer said: I think he missed the point. Orwell didn't write it as a blueprint! George Orwell said, "It's not power that corrupts absolutely , but obedience." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmushr00m Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 “It is the natural rule – we have to take care of things surrounding us, including animals on the farm.” Proves they did not get the gist of the book. They probably thought and still think it's a comedy about animals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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