Not only is this "Chinese Thai" wannabe in Govt circle, but in the academic circles as well.  I studied at the Royal AH academy, thus I am entitled.

quote:- 

"We fiercely believe that, in the end, our day will come"

I sincerely hope so. As a new democratic party you have already shaken the roots of the establishment. As the ageing feudal military elite pass on you will have your success.  

27 minutes ago, pornprong said:

Or perhaps all the political scientists are not political scientists at all, rather, just ordinary human beings empathetic to the wrongs being inflicted upon those they live amongst.

 

Empathy and a preference for fairness and justice is what gets us excited.

What does it for you?

Oh I believe this is more of somewhere to vent, because people know they are powerless in their own countries, while the people they voted in to make changes they wanted don't care one iota about them (except on paper). Here they can criticize Thais and their situation helping them forget about their own pathetic countries. I mean I get it, you're not satisfied on how life is back home. But just because you're temporarily allowed to stay here you think that gives you the right to judge others and way the other countries live? If only your country was the model for all other societies to live, sadly it's not. 

11 minutes ago, jingjai9 said:

Was it Winston Churchill who said it, "People get the government they deserve." Holds try for any nation.

 

You're missing half the quote!

 

"IN A DEMOCRACY people get the government they deserve"

 

Not really applicable here is it?

 

4 hours ago, lipflipper said:

This clown needs to keep his pie hole shut. Just because your family are mega rich and you think that qualifies you for the top Government job proves that you are incapable of sound logical thinking. You are nothing more than a Thaksin shill and as you will soon find out that paints a target on your back. There are four charges against you and your Future Forward party with more to follow as you continue to be the uppity newcomer who thinks he is Buddha's gift to Thailand.

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Jesus wept.

4 hours ago, thaikahuna said:

It makes no difference who won or lost, the losing side is always going to claim it was robbed. This little rich kid is nothing more than a piss ant flexing his baht.

Double Jesus Wept.

 

Are there actually Westerners/Expats that even remotely think like this?

Jesus H Christ.

22 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

Oh I believe this is more of somewhere to vent, because people know they are powerless in their own countries, while the people they voted in to make changes they wanted don't care one iota about them (except on paper). Here they can criticize Thais and their situation helping them forget about their own pathetic countries. I mean I get it, you're not satisfied on how life is back home. But just because you're temporarily allowed to stay here you think that gives you the right to judge others and way the other countries live? If only your country was the model for all other societies to live, sadly it's not. 

For some of us this is home. Even for those who are "temporarily allowed to stay", many have family and/or children here so what happens in Thailand is important to them and they do have the right to voice their opinions. 

 

I am not judging Thailand by the way "other countries live", as I know more about Thailand than I know about the UK. I am commenting based on what I believe best for this country in the long term.  

1 minute ago, GarryP said:

For some of us this is home. Even for those who are "temporarily allowed to stay", many have family and/or children here so what happens in Thailand is important to them and they do have the right to voice their opinions. 

 

I am not judging Thailand by the way "other countries live", as I know more about Thailand than I know about the UK. I am commenting based on what I believe best for this country in the long term.  

I've been here for 17 years and the one thing I do realize is that I'll never know what's best for this country especially when it comes to politics and the country's leaders. You know more about Thailand than your own country but you are from the U.K.? I rest my case..

Why is this nutter flapping his lips. He's not in the run  to be a PM. He's got a few Criminal charges over his head ,Maybe IF he gets cleared of them he may Try again Next time.

5 hours ago, lipflipper said:

This clown needs to keep his pie hole shut. Just because your family are mega rich and you think that qualifies you for the top Government job proves that you are incapable of sound logical thinking. You are nothing more than a Thaksin shill and as you will soon find out that paints a target on your back. There are four charges against you and your Future Forward party with more to follow as you continue to be the uppity newcomer who thinks he is Buddha's gift to Thailand.

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You don't even have the excuse of Thai education and brainwashing for your idiotic views. Shameful.

6 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Why is this nutter flapping his lips. He's not in the run  to be a PM. He's got a few Criminal charges over his head ,Maybe IF he gets cleared of them he may Try again Next time.

Are you referring to 'lipflipper'.  

1 hour ago, Rhys said:

Not only is this "Chinese Thai" wannabe in Govt circle, but in the academic circles as well.  I studied at the Royal AH academy, thus I am entitled.

When, where, what words did he ever say to support your claim?

5 hours ago, robblok said:

Robbed, probably however even without the senator Prayut got enough votes. Just an example of how coalition governments work. 

 

I rather had seen him in power then Prayut but Prayut got an alliance together with more seats then the PTP and FFW. It would have been far more of a robbery if the PTP and FFW had more MP's and were robbed because of the elected senate.

Still with all the cheating going on seats going to smaller parties I understand their feeling of getting robbed and I largely agree. 

 

Lets see how the people vote next time.

Well yes, but I'm wondering how many more dems will bail out in the near future, reducing the total number of seats P controls?

2 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Well yes, but I'm wondering how many more dems will bail out in the near future, reducing the total number of seats P controls?

I doubt its a stable government, there are interesting times ahead and I hope a new election is needed. 

4 hours ago, AGareth2 said:

given the numbers in the lower house

how long before this govt falls?

Parliament "suspended" for the good of the country, the Government will continue to rule, just without parliament. The Senate can be relied upon to scrutinize their actions effectively in the lower houses place...

52 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

I've been here for 17 years and the one thing I do realize is that I'll never know what's best for this country especially when it comes to politics and the country's leaders. You know more about Thailand than your own country but you are from the U.K.? I rest my case..

I have lived in Thailand for 37 years. That is nearly twice the length of time I lived in the UK. I am now a Thai citizen. Your point is?????

To firstly change the EC formulation to accept smaller parties after the election for manipulation purposes, then to try to have trumped up charges against the most popular anti-junta party leader Thanathorn, and then for PP to offer bribes of millions of baht per vote for choosing Prayut as PM, all screams of possible charges for Impeachment. 

 

But maybe that only applies to a democratically elected head of state, and this was definitely not a democratic election.. The entire process stunk from the word go. 

5 minutes ago, GarryP said:

I have lived in Thailand for 37 years. That is nearly twice the length of time I lived in the UK. I am now a Thai citizen. Your point is?????

But you're not a Thai and you'll never be a Thai, that's my point..

“We were robbed of victory!”   the mournful cry of the Whiniing Loser bird.

Great man !

He was out-gunned by a true master of deception.

The words "delusional" come to mind, did he really expect the outcome to be any different?

Better to slowly melt into the background and accept the cards were already stacked.

7 hours ago, lipflipper said:

This clown needs to keep his pie hole shut. Just because your family are mega rich and you think that qualifies you for the top Government job proves that you are incapable of sound logical thinking. You are nothing more than a Thaksin shill and as you will soon find out that paints a target on your back. There are four charges against you and your Future Forward party with more to follow as you continue to be the uppity newcomer who thinks he is Buddha's gift to Thailand.

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Rubbish. You don't have the faintest idea about this topic. I suggest you leave well alone.

2 hours ago, digger70 said:

Why is this nutter flapping his lips. He's not in the run  to be a PM. He's got a few Criminal charges over his head ,Maybe IF he gets cleared of them he may Try again Next time.

Next time, educate yourself on this country and its politics and elite/amart.

Read the books you cannot buy here, next time you are in your home country.

1 hour ago, Ozman52 said:

“We were robbed of victory!”   the mournful cry of the Whiniing Loser bird.

Yes, isn't a stolen election hilarious. All those mugs upset that they thought their vote would matter. That as citizens they would have a say in how their country is run. Bunch of whining losers. Now, back on your knees and be ready to serve a small group of people who couldn't care less how miserable your existence is.

8 hours ago, thaikahuna said:

It makes no difference who won or lost, the losing side is always going to claim it was robbed. This little rich kid is nothing more than a piss ant flexing his baht.

Unfortunately the losing side would be the Thai people. But then it was always going to be the Thai people that lost and many of them hoped to lose judging by their votes. As far as Thanathorn, he has lost long before people went to the poles.

8 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

He was robbed; the whole country was robbed. If you can see it, even Buddha can't help you. 

 

And the sad fact is they were being robbed left right and center for all this century so far!

8 hours ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

doesn't really matter how they vote if the EC can just change the rules after the election has already taken place ????

 

 

And the Constitution can be changed after the referendum.

9 hours ago, thaikahuna said:

It makes no difference who won or lost, the losing side is always going to claim it was robbed. This little rich kid is nothing more than a piss ant flexing his baht.

Hillary Clinton is a good example. 

4 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

Oh I believe this is more of somewhere to vent, because people know they are powerless in their own countries, while the people they voted in to make changes they wanted don't care one iota about them (except on paper). Here they can criticize Thais and their situation helping them forget about their own pathetic countries. I mean I get it, you're not satisfied on how life is back home. But just because you're temporarily allowed to stay here you think that gives you the right to judge others and way the other countries live? If only your country was the model for all other societies to live, sadly it's not. 

 

3 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

I've been here for 17 years and the one thing I do realize is that I'll never know what's best for this country especially when it comes to politics and the country's leaders. You know more about Thailand than your own country but you are from the U.K.? I rest my case..

 

2 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

But you're not a Thai and you'll never be a Thai, that's my point..

The criticism is of the Thai election, not the Thai people. Many posters also post on the political situation in their own countries in the relevant threads and other forums. However, as I said before, they have the right to their opinion on how people live here and the right to express those opinions. It is called free speech. Many have ties to this country apart from simply living here, such as families. 

 

Just because, despite your many years here, you'll never know what's best for Thailand, does not mean that others do not have ideas as to what might work and want to share their opinions. 

 

Following your argument, no matter where we live, so long as it is not our home country, then we have no right to comment, share opinions or pass judgement on how that country is run or people go about their daily lives if what we have to say is negative. Rather narrow minded, don't you think? 

 

Your "point" lacks logic. While perhaps when people see me, they would never believe I was Thai, I have a Thai ID card and passport and all the same rights as any Thai national with one small exception and even that exception will be no more in a couple of years. Funnily enough, that is the right to vote. In any case, I don't care whether I am thought of as a Thai. This country is my home and I have every right to share my opinion on it as do all the others that post here, even you and Steven100 and the many others with differing views.  

5 minutes ago, GarryP said:

 

 

The criticism is of the Thai election, not the Thai people. Many posters also post on the political situation in their own countries in the relevant threads and other forums. However, as I said before, they have the right to their opinion on how people live here and the right to express those opinions. It is called free speech. Many have ties to this country apart from simply living here, such as families. 

 

Just because, despite your many years here, you'll never know what's best for Thailand, does not mean that others do not have ideas as to what might work and want to share their opinions. 

 

Following your argument, no matter where we live, so long as it is not our home country, then we have no right to comment, share opinions or pass judgement on how that country is run or people go about their daily lives if what we have to say is negative. Rather narrow minded, don't you think? 

 

Your "point" lacks logic. While perhaps when people see me, they would never believe I was Thai, I have a Thai ID card and passport and all the same rights as any Thai national with one small exception and even that exception will be no more in a couple of years. Funnily enough, that is the right to vote. In any case, I don't care whether I am thought of as a Thai. This country is my home and I have every right to share my opinion on it as do all the others that post here, even you and Steven100 and the many others with differing views.  

 Sick to death of the crowing of the white privileged crowd on how this country should be run, extrapolating their country's view on 'democracy' as the cure for all that ails Thailand, what bullshit. You renounced your British citizenship? Yea, I have a family here, does that make me a hero to be able to advise all that I see wrong? Couldn't care less what paper hoops you dove through you're still a white man from England and that's all you'll ever be over here. 

The criticism is of the Thai election, not the Thai people. Many posters also post on the political situation in their own countries in the relevant threads and other forums. However, as I said before, they have the right to their opinion on how people live here and the right to express those opinions. It is called free speech. Many have ties to this country apart from simply living here, such as families. 
 
Just because, despite your many years here, you'll never know what's best for Thailand, does not mean that others do not have ideas as to what might work and want to share their opinions. 
 
Following your argument, no matter where we live, so long as it is not our home country, then we have no right to comment, share opinions or pass judgement on how that country is run or people go about their daily lives if what we have to say is negative. Rather narrow minded, don't you think? 
 
Your "point" lacks logic. While perhaps when people see me, they would never believe I was Thai, I have a Thai ID card and passport and all the same rights as any Thai national with one small exception and even that exception will be no more in a couple of years. Funnily enough, that is the right to vote. In any case, I don't care whether I am thought of as a Thai. This country is my home and I have every right to share my opinion on it as do all the others that post here, even you and Steven100 and the many others with differing views.  

Your first paragraph cites the availibilty of free speech, is that entirely accurate for this country under the current conditions?......

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