Tanoshi Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, MJKT2014 said: So that would be my preference if in the ops situation, if I cannot continue retirement extension due to misunderstandings about new rules or whatever, and not got the money ready to go straight over to marriage. I'd just to a border hop, no need for an exit reentry, come in on a 30 day and start the Non O process again at the IO. No need to faff about at embassies abroad and all the hassle that entails? What do you think a border hop is ……. it's an exit and re-entry. Edited June 7, 2019 by Tanoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Smith Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tanoshi said: What do you think a border hop is ……. it's an exit and re-entry. prob means no need for exit rentry visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Samuel Smith said: prob means no need for exit rentry visa Wouldn't need a re-entry permit in any event, either re-enters on a Visa exempt entry, or on a Non Imm O Visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post no deal Posted June 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2019 16 hours ago, UKresonant said: Even a gov pension is not the same amount each month, it varies as indexation and tax changes are applied. They are asking for the very improbable situation, no common sense. Perhaps they could explain how you were supposed to know of the bank deposit requirement 6 months before it came out...(or maybe not). Can you not just ask them for the marriage version, as it says average income of 40kTHB? Based on income. you need to undestand many people get the 800.000 on they account from lender because they dont have the money to get they visa,and when they get the visa the 800.000 return to the lender who charge interest! that the raison why the immigration want you to have the money longer on your account, you can not pay interest for ever... immigration just want good people who met the requirement to get visa the right way,same whit marriage visa many people are not really married they pay the girl to get a fake marriage,you get wat you want whit money,but immigration know all about this,and the good people get a lots new problemes because of that,i live in thailand for 12 years and i never have any problemes because every month i get my money tranfer to my bank account in thailand,if you can not met the requirement of the immigration dont try to stay in thailand. i am tire to read all the complaintes about immigration,they just do they job. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJKT2014 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, Samuel Smith said: prob means no need for exit rentry visa Yes of course I meant that and forgot the word permit in my posting as you rightly spotted. Perhaps Tanoshi's first language isn't English so that poster didn't pick up of the typing error. Completely missed my point as well that there is no need to go to an embassy or consulate to get a Non O for marriage if the money is available in the bank. The huge queues I have been reading about at Savannakhet consulate would lead me to give that a wide berth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, MJKT2014 said: Yes of course I meant that and forgot the word permit in my posting as you rightly spotted. Perhaps Tanoshi's first language isn't English so that poster didn't pick up of the typing error. Completely missed my point as well that there is no need to go to an embassy or consulate to get a Non O for marriage if the money is available in the bank. The huge queues I have been reading about at Savannakhet consulate would lead me to give that a wide berth. My first language is English and I understood as you posted, but not the fact you misquoted due to a typo error. A re-entry permit was never mentioned or suggested, so why include it. The OP could do a border run for a 30 day Visa exempt, but then still 3 visits o CW, which is also mega busy, OR visit an Embassy near the border (which he has to visit anyway), then only 2 visits required at CW. Entirely up to the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ParadiseLost Posted June 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2019 13 hours ago, jacko45k said: To pay for medical treatment. Even that is flawed - if you do get ill and use the money to pay the hospital, your extension is immediately invalidated? Straight from hospital to the airport then... Personally I think it was a bright idea from some mentally-challenged official, who came up with a way to stop people using agents, when they don't have the 800k in a Thai bank. Nobody considered the implications as logic (and lateral thinking) is not a strong point with Thai officials. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 20 hours ago, bert bloggs said: But you cant ,because if you use it for anything you lose your visa , No you don't. There have been no punitive measures specified for non compliance. It may make your next extension application problematic, possible rejection. Surely that could be circumvented by starting over with a new Non-Imm-O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 20 hours ago, bert bloggs said: But you cant ,because if you use it for anything you lose your visa , Where does it specify that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 13 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: What if the mooted Medical Insurance order is implemented?? What then ? As long as the hypothetical is being entertained, the requirement for an Extension will be medical insurance or retained money in your account! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJKT2014 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 12 hours ago, Tanoshi said: OR visit an Embassy near the border (which he has to visit anyway), Why does the op have to visit an embassy anyway? That was my point, he doesn't need to - unless he wants to do so or money is an issue? He can get his Non Imm O at CW and do it all there as he's married as UbonJoe said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 3 hours ago, jacko45k said: Where does it specify that? It doesnt ,it just says you CANNOT spend it . no exceptions are made . ,nice if they were . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 minute ago, bert bloggs said: It doesnt ,it just says you CANNOT spend it . no exceptions are made . ,nice if they were . Might as well just give it to them! OOps, did I just say that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Might as well just give it to them! OOps, did I just say that! Thats why i am changing to marriage ,its no big deal really ,was in Jomtien the other day doing my 90day ,and asked for the list of things i would need ,was sent to a woman officer at the back ,my wife spoke to her ,she just asked why i wanted to change after all this time ,i told her why ,money and she gave us the list ,in Thai ,asked my wife if she could translate it ,she said no problem , and off we went , one thing would be a problem for some like me ,we were married in the UK so loads of things you have to do ,luckily i have authenticated our marriage certificate in the UK ,so not such a problem for us . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 22 hours ago, 55Jay said: Guys on a 400k in the bank extension based on marriage don't get sick, or have accidents. Apparently. ???? The whole idea of making the marriage route more difficult was to stop fake marriages ,thats it in a nutshell ,genuine married couples were welcome then . in the UK it would be handy if they went down that route ,as there are thousands of fake marriages , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, bert bloggs said: Thats why i am changing to marriage ,its no big deal really ,was in Jomtien the other day doing my 90day Some have complained that in Jomtiem they were impeded somewhat in their attempts at that desk, even suggesting they were being pushed towards using an agent. (At least at Jomtiem a retirement extension is dealt with efficiently I have found). Also the selection of photographs required and a home visit by Immigration were intrusive. There will also be a 1 month extra wait as it is required to be approved at some regional office. Be interesting to hear how you find it when you change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Some have complained that in Jomtiem they were impeded somewhat in their attempts at that desk, even suggesting they were being pushed towards using an agent. (At least at Jomtiem a retirement extension is dealt with efficiently I have found). Also the selection of photographs required and a home visit by Immigration were intrusive. There will also be a 1 month extra wait as it is required to be approved at some regional office. Be interesting to hear how you find it when you change. My wifes friend is a lawyer ,she knows all the tricks ,and yes it is very easy to just use an agent if i did not have the money i could get it done and far cheaper than most get charged ,but i luckily do have the cash so i prefer to be legal , the reason i want to change is its my money why should i have to leave it in a bank for ever and not be allowed to use it .? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, bert bloggs said: My wifes friend is a lawyer ,she knows all the tricks ,and yes it is very easy to just use an agent if i did not have the money i could get it done and far cheaper than most get charged ,but i luckily do have the cash so i prefer to be legal , the reason i want to change is its my money why should i have to leave it in a bank for ever and not be allowed to use it .? I dont think you will find an agent that does marriage extensions (no funds). Because everything goes to BKK for additional checks, there is no choice other than the non-agent route. Edited June 8, 2019 by Peterw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: I dont think you will find an agent that does marriage extensions (no funds). Because everything goes to BKK for additional checks, there is choice other than the non-agent route. No i was not talking about marriage there ,sorry if i wasn't clear , 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: I dont think you will find an agent that does marriage extensions (no funds). Because everything goes to BKK for additional checks, there is no choice other than the non-agent route. A few places it is possible but the fee is from 25k to 40k baht since they have to leave the 400k in the bank for 2 months and then for the under consideration period. Not all of them go to Bangkok. If not in the central they are sent to the immigration division headquarters responsible for the region where a person is living. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, MJKT2014 said: Why does the op have to visit an embassy anyway? That was my point, he doesn't need to - unless he wants to do so or money is an issue? He can get his Non Imm O at CW and do it all there as he's married as UbonJoe said. He doesn't have to visit an Embassy, but he does have to cross a border and re-enter anyway. Personally if it were me, I'd take a copy of the 'leniency' memo back to CW and argue the point, provided I had proof of 5 x transfers of 65K. The OP's chosen to switch to a marriage extension, deposit 400K in a Thai bank and re-apply for an extension once those funds have been seasoned for 2 months. He has a month left on his current extension. He therefore needs to start the process again and obtain a new Non O. He has two options, obtain a Non O SE from a Thai Embassy/Consulate, re-enter on the Non O, then within the last 30 days apply directly for the marriage extension, OR, cross a border, re-enter Visa exempt, then with at least 15 days remaining of his permission to stay apply for the Non O at CW, then his extension. Either choice allow his funds to season for the required 2 months. He'll obtain his extension sooner though going the Thai Embassy route. Expats in similar positions have opted for the Non O ME Visa from a Thai Emb/Cons. That allows them to stay for almost 17 months, with 3 x 60 day extensions + 3 border runs without visiting an IO, allowing the option and time to transfer 12 x 40K into a Thai bank should they wish to revert back to a marriage extension. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: I dont think you will find an agent that does marriage extensions (no funds). As to agents who will process marriage extensions, there are plenty. Just found one in seconds. I cannot confirm if they somehow bypass any of the requirements making your application smoother, or simply process exactly the same documents you could on your own. I hope someone with personal experience can contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, jacko45k said: As to agents who will process marriage extensions, there are plenty. Just found one in seconds. I cannot confirm if they somehow bypass any of the requirements making your application smoother, or simply process exactly the same documents you could on your own. I hope someone with personal experience can contribute. Can you mention or PM the agent details. I asked every agent I know of in Pattaya in the last couple of days and not one says they can do marriage extn with no funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Can you mention or PM the agent details. I asked every agent I know of in Pattaya in the last couple of days and not one says they can do marriage extn with no funds. Are you in Pattaya?Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, ivor bigun said: Are you in Pattaya? Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Yes, in pattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Yes, in pattaya Have you tried the agents in soi post office? Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 4:47 PM, robertson468 said: There is no practical reason from the Customers point of view, but as you will appreciate it will advantage the Thai Banks to have that additional amount in their Bank to invest and make interest from it. That is what I suspect it is all about, but no one will admit it. TIT! Robertson468 is correct...two words can spell it out fast: Money laudering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) On 6/6/2019 at 5:21 PM, ubonjoe said: The 400k baht only has to be in the bank in your name only for 2 months to apply for the extension. 1. You can do whatever you want to with the 400k baht after your extension is stamped in your passport. 2. No 3. For the extension based upon marriage there is no combination option of money in the bank and income. 4. Vientiane and Savannakhet Laos would be the best place to get a single entry non-o visa. 5. After you get the extension would you would need a re-entry permit to keep it valid if you want to travel. Burlap you can also go straight to your IO in Thailand and apply for a 1 year extension Edited June 8, 2019 by riclag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2554 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) What does mean "sponsorship letter from the Thai spouse"? Edited June 8, 2019 by Alex2554 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 An Invitation letter from the wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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