Thaksin gets two years in prison over 2 and 3 digit lottery project

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Thaksin gets two years in prison over 2 and 3 digit lottery project

 

(Photo) Thaksin Shinawatra Facebook page

 

Fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra was today sentenced in absentia to two years in prison, without suspension, after he was found guilty, by the Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Holders of Political Office, of malfeasance over his government’s issuance of two and three digit lottery tickets from August 2003 to September 2006.

 

The court ruled that Thaksin ignored warnings that the issuance of the tickets might be illegal because there was no law to support the move and he ordered then deputy finance minister and director of the Government Lottery Office (GLO) to go ahead with the project which, according to the court, resulted in about a 1.6 billion baht operating loss by the GLO.

 

The court also noted that the illegal lottery project had prompted the GLO to withdraw 20 billion baht from the Government Savings Bank as reserves for the lottery project. The court said that Thaksin was fully aware of the risks, but didn’t take any precautions to cushion those risks.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thaksin-gets-two-years-in-prison-over-2-and-3-digit-lottery-project/

 

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2019-06-07

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[dcnx]

Excellent use of time and resources. 

 

 

[pattayadgw]

If he can get 2 years for a lottery what should the sentence be for someone who illegally changes a countries constitution? 

[leeneeds]

NO lucky numbers for Thaksin, 

his horoscope must be an awful read in the mornings,

"today only buy first class seat on journey,

you will receive a gift from a relative,

you will dine and dance with your friends celebrating a birthday,

some one from the past has cast dispersions about you,

just ignore these as they have no effect on your life,

lucky colour is red and lucky number is 2 "

[steven100]

Doe's anyone in Thailand really care anymore about this guy .... I don't think so.

He's gone .... he's a runaway .... finished ...kaput   !!

Forget him and move on.

[stanleycoin]

7 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Doe's anyone in Thailand really care anymore about this guy .... I don't think so.

He's gone .... he's a runaway .... finished ...kaput   !!

Forget him and move on.

Nah. They need all the scapegoat's they can fined now days,  to blame stuff on.

if they didn't have them,  they may then need,  to look at themselves.

Perish the thought. 

 

 

Edited June 6, 2019 by stanleycoin

[mania]

How many years did they give the Red Bull heir (in absentia of course )

[ChipButty]

Like he gives a shit

[JRG23]

LOL. Don't ever let him near the Thai people! Has anyone ever read 1984?

[scorecard]

43 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Doe's anyone in Thailand really care anymore about this guy .... I don't think so.

He's gone .... he's a runaway .... finished ...kaput   !!

Forget him and move on.

Don't agree. He broke the law and should be punished same as every other person who breaks a law.

[neeray]

7 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Don't agree. He broke the law and should be punished same as every other person who breaks a law.

That being said, it would be very nice if even generals and other army type who broke the law were (and could be) punished. It would be great for the construction business. So many more jails would be required.

[arithai12]

11 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Don't agree. He broke the law and should be punished same as every other person who breaks a law.

From what we are told, he didn't break a law, he took a decision ignoring warnings. But isn't the timing of this sentence quite interesting?

As for every other person who breaks the law, countless examples to the contrary and no one is after them.

[cmsally]

I have been looking through old articles , as the lottery 2/3 numbers seems to date back to 2003.

I cannot find any mention of the amount supposedly lost (1.6billion).

It also says that GLO (govt lottery) funds are not open to parliamentary scrutiny.

Thaksin's govt stance was that this was allowed as a charity lottery scheme under the GLO Act (tax exempt too). It says in the same article the 2/3 number lottery GENERATED 123 billion Baht.

Very different from the above.

 

[Toknarok]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

Doe's anyone in Thailand really care anymore about this guy .... I don't think so.

He's gone .... he's a runaway .... finished ...kaput   !!

Forget him and move on.

     Nonsense. Millions of Thais (especially in the North and North East) respect and admire this man, and the illegal crowd in power at the moment know this only too well.

    If he were a nonentity as you suggest why do the powers that be persecute him for every little reason they can conjure up. They're afraid of him that's why.

[neeray]

5 minutes ago, cmsally said:

I have been looking through old articles , as the lottery 2/3 numbers seems to date back to 2003.

I cannot find any mention of the amount supposedly lost (1.6billion).

It also says that GLO (govt lottery) funds are not open to parliamentary scrutiny.

Thaksin's govt stance was that this was allowed as a charity lottery scheme under the GLO Act (tax exempt too). It says in the same article the 2/3 number lottery GENERATED 123 billion Baht.

Very different from the above.

 

Perhaps a little rewriting of history to create the desired effect.

[pornprong]

28 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Don't agree. He broke the law and should be punished same as every other person who breaks a law.

Very hard to see an actual crime here.

 

The 2/3 number lottery scheme generated >120 billion baht in revenue for the government whilst simultaneously denying the underground illegal lotteries >120 billion in revenue.

 

Seems to me to be a win/win for Thailand - no wonder the junta is opposed to it.

 

I guess it begs the question, who were the big names behind the illegal lotteries.......Generals perhaps?

 

Guess we'll never know because,as we all know, not everyone who breaks the law is actually punished for it over here.

[scorecard]

10 minutes ago, Toknarok said:

     Nonsense. Millions of Thais (especially in the North and North East) respect and admire this man, and the illegal crowd in power at the moment know this only too well.

    If he were a nonentity as you suggest why do the powers that be persecute him for every little reason they can conjure up. They're afraid of him that's why.

"Nonsense. Millions of Thais (especially in the North and North East) respect and admire this man..."

 

All been said a million times before, he used them, nothing more...

 

He broke the law, all very well documented, he broke the law...

Edited June 7, 2019 by scorecard

[pornprong]

3 minutes ago, scorecard said:

"Nonsense. Millions of Thais (especially in the North and North East) respect and admire this man..."

All been said a million times before, he used them, nothing more...

He broke the law, all very well documented, he broke the law...

Where is the documentation?

What exactly are you basing your views on other than personal prejudices and junta propaganda.

In this case in particular, how is earning the state 120 billion and denying criminals 120 billion a crime?

You are obsessed with Thaksin because you are too afraid to simply say what it is you believe in without the need to justify those beliefs by offering up a bogeyman.

[robblok]

45 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Don't agree. He broke the law and should be punished same as every other person who breaks a law.

Sure and in other cases like the telecom loans that he benefited from in his company I see the point of punishment and his guilt. This case I don't really see what he gained from it.

 

I am anti Thaksin always will be but this case I just don't see how he benefited and why it was such a bad thing. 

[scorecard]

8 minutes ago, pornprong said:

Where is the documentation?

What exactly are you basing your views on other than personal prejudices and junta propaganda.

In this case in particular, how is earning the state 120 billion and denying criminals 120 billion a crime?

You are obsessed with Thaksin because you are too afraid to simply say what it is you believe in without the need to justify those beliefs by offering up a bogeyman.

The case is old, it's been well explained and discussed in the media etc., for many years and well accepted that he broke the law. 

 

Your claims of "...how is earning the state 120 billion and denying criminals 120 billion a crime?..." are just your bogeyman.

 

Why is it so difficult to understand, his ego pushed him to just go ahead and do whatever he felt like, he believed he had some god given right to do whatever he felt like regardless of laws and regulations. 

 

He broke the law ...

 

Now go right ahead 'but the junta...'. And yes they have a lot to answer for, but that's a different subject. 

 

Edited June 7, 2019 by scorecard

[Denim]

What was it Prayuth said  ?

 

I want people to move on and forget about Thaksin.

 

Thaksin , Thaksin , Thaksin bla bla Thaksin this Thaksin that Thaksin Thaksin Thaksin Thaksin changes underwear , Thaksin Thaksin Thaksin Thaksin.

 

Etc etc.

[Chang_paarp]

30 minutes ago, cmsally said:

I have been looking through old articles , as the lottery 2/3 numbers seems to date back to 2003.

I cannot find any mention of the amount supposedly lost (1.6billion).

It also says that GLO (govt lottery) funds are not open to parliamentary scrutiny.

Thaksin's govt stance was that this was allowed as a charity lottery scheme under the GLO Act (tax exempt too). It says in the same article the 2/3 number lottery GENERATED 123 billion Baht.

Very different from the above.

 

 

Please stop clouding the issue with facts.

 

[pornprong]

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

The case is old, it's been well explained and discussed in the media etc., for many years and well accepted that he broke the law. 

Where?

Can you provide a single link?

Of course not, just your prejudices running wild again.

 

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Your claims of "...how is earning the state 120 billion and denying criminals 120 billion a crime?..." are just your bogeyman.

They are not my claims, they are facts. 

Read today's Bangkok Post

 

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Why is it so difficult to understand, his ego pushed him to just go ahead and do whatever he felt like, he believed he had some god given right to do whatever he felt like regardless of laws and regulations. 

What seems difficult for you to understand is that the courts are being used as a political tool to do harm to those opposed to the junta, namely Thaksin and Thanathorn.

 

Actually, it is not difficult for you to understand, it is more a case of you choosing not to understand so that you can continue your self delusion that you have to support authoritarian, undemocratic fascist rule because it is the lesser of two evils when compared to Thaksin.

 

It is utter nonsense.

 

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

He broke the law ...

Maybe, maybe not - only a fool would swallow, without question, what's been dished up by the junta regarding Thaksin. 

 

The same fools are soon to be swallowing similar nonsense about Thanathorn.

 

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Now go right ahead 'but the junta...'. And yes they have a lot to answer for, but that's a different subject. 

For sure the junta should be investigated for their alleged crimes - by an independent and impartial system that can produce credible results. I think when democracy is restored such a situation will arise and when the final tallies are recorded, Thaksin's will be by far the least guilty.

[LazySlipper]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

Doe's anyone in Thailand really care anymore about this guy .... I don't think so.

He's gone .... he's a runaway .... finished ...kaput   !!

Forget him and move on.

 

I actually hope he has to answer to the courts some day.

 

Also, what about the Red Bull guy... he is also gone. Should society forget about him?

[mercman24]

THAI LOTTERY TODAY  the biggest fraud going, and no one seems to care, they are lottery mad here,(not like the UK same population)  lets do a comparison, UK LOTTERY twice a week, (8 times a month) with a prize fund of AT LEAST £2.5 million, + EVERY TIME. lottery ticket approx the same price. which equates to 97,550,000,00,baht,  (this is EVERY lottery) in the uk. THAI lottery TWICE A MONTH  prize money is a pittance, someone is getting very rich indeed, every month and it is not the lottery winner. most i have ever seen was a 30 million winner, which is a bloody joke.

[essox essox]

2 hours ago, pattayadgw said:

If he can get 2 years for a lottery what should the sentence be for someone who illegally changes a countries constitution? 

good question.....will be interesting to see who comes up with some answers to your comment/point.....

[harada]

I'm sure Mr T will be sitting on the balcony of his penthouse crying into his mai Thai over this.

[madmitch]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

Doe's anyone in Thailand really care anymore about this guy .... I don't think so.

He's gone .... he's a runaway .... finished ...kaput   !!

Forget him and move on.

Unfortunately people do care about him one way or the other and that's why the farce of an election to many is simply a military v Thaksin contest. He's still a hero to many and an enemy to others.

 

I simply don't understand how someone can be jailed for making a political decision. Where was the law broken? Of course he's not here to appeal.

 

 

[essox essox]

wrong headline HE is NOT in PRISON. He's not even in the country or is he??

[worgeordie]

Thaksin started off very well,actually helping the poor

as no one had done before,even included health care

for Farangs too,BUT then power went to his head,the

first to realise,that you could giveaway taxpayers money

instead of your own, to win votes,giving away money for populist

policies,many that only led to corruption and only

really benefited politicians. 

 

The new PM could be a candidate for were power 

goes to your head, (even more )do it my way or your out,

he's not going to take any criticism at all, its going to be 

 interesting if he does not get his own way.

 

regards worgeordie