Two women injured in UK homophobic attack 'for refusing to kiss'

[ivor bigun]

You're the one who brought up the subject in relation to these 2 women based solely on the fact that they were gay.

What,? No i didnt

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[vogie]

1 minute ago, bristolboy said:

And equally cheap was the shot taken at Khan.

I have just double checked my post and nowhere can I find where I mentioned Khan.

[CharlieH]

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Lets not digress down Brexit/Khan routes please.

[thaiguzzi]

1 hour ago, ivor bigun said:

I have read the newspaper and there is no proof that it was homophobic and they were told to kiss ,only the word of these two women who were beaten and robbed, i am not saying they are lying,but please where is the proof?

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I see the victim blamers are out in force on this one.

Again.

[bristolboy]

8 minutes ago, vogie said:

I have just double checked my post and nowhere can I find where I mentioned Khan.

Not you but someone else. I managed to call out both parties. You, just one.

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, norfolkc said:

This is the London of Mayor Khan 

This is the 21st century.

Don't like it?  Get to work on time travel.

 

 

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Not you but someone else. I managed to call out both parties. You, just one.

Would you be so good as to associate somebody elses post with them and not me, I take no responsibility for what other people say on here, you should address what I say and not add other posts to mine. Thanks.

[ivor bigun]

I see the victim blamers are out in force on this one.
Again.

Here we go no one is victim blaming,your just saying that, i just said that there was no proof it was homophobic, we only have their word ,it could have been just a robbery

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[ThaiBunny]

8 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

Here we go no one is victim blaming,your just saying that, i just said that there was no proof it was homophobic, we only have their word ,it could have been just a robbery

As the police already have the CCTV from inside the bus of the entire incident I think there'll be an early assessment whether it was "just a robbery" even if there's no sound

[Chomper Higgot]

26 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

Here we go no one is victim blaming,your just saying that, i just said that there was no proof it was homophobic, we only have their word ,it could have been just a robbery

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The report states that it was a homophobic attack, "Two women were punched and robbed in a homophobic assault on a London bus, police said on Friday."

 

Where is your proof that this was not a homophobic attack?

 

And perhaps more importantly, why does it bother you so much that this is being reported as a homophobic attack?

 

You are after all continually questioning the report but offer zero evidence for your point of view. 

 

 

 

[bristolboy]

33 minutes ago, vogie said:

Would you be so good as to associate somebody elses post with them and not me, I take no responsibility for what other people say on here, you should address what I say and not add other posts to mine. Thanks.

No one said you are responsible for anyone's post. 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, soalbundy said:

Disgusting, violence seems to be a way of life in the UK, they were lucky not to have been stabbed.

 It's a fact of life in multicultural cities.

[ivor bigun]

The report states that it was a homophobic attack, "Two women were punched and robbed in a homophobic assault on a London bus, police said on Friday."
 
Where is your proof that this was not a homophobic attack?
 
And perhaps more importantly, why does it bother you so much that this is being reported as a homophobic attack?
 
You are after all continually questioning the report but offer zero evidence for your point of view. 
 
 
 

So the police are only repeating what the girls told them thats it,anyway lets wait till they are questioned ,i really have no more interest in discussing it any more, by

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[ivor bigun]

 It's a fact of life in multicultural cities.

It certainly is in my old home town , there are areas,you would not dare go at night ,and its not where mainly non immigrants live.

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[vogie]

4 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

No one said you are responsible for anyone's post. 

 

57 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

And equally cheap was the shot taken at Khan.

You are playing at Mr Twisty again, I repeat, I never mentioned Khan so why mention it it in a reply to my post, if you cannot discuss sensibly and fairly I have nothing more to say to you.........again.

[CharlieH]

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[RichardColeman]

5 hours ago, rooster59 said:

London mayor Sadiq Khan said on Twitter: "This was a disgusting, misogynistic attack. Hate crimes against the LGBT+ community will not be tolerated in London."

In all fairness, Khan has done his bit to make London as unsafe as possible for the young men to get home safely

[dick dasterdly]

2 hours ago, bristolboy said:

So if a straight couple holds hands in public are they not being visibly straight? 

A good point that should make all 'straight' people think.

 

I'm ashamed to admit that I'm still embarrassed by seeing gays kiss in public - whereas I have behaved far more badly (when I was young) ☹️.

[ThaiBunny]

3 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

I'm still embarrassed by seeing gays kiss in public

I find all public displays of affection tiresome, gay or straight

[Pedrogaz]

How utterly strange. I'm not sure I buy into the gays-are great-meme and should be included in every TV program and movie. 

I have to be really honest, and say that men kissing makes me physically sick and I have to look away, but that is just a personal thing, I simply don't want or need to see it....seeing congealed bacon grease makes me retch and feel the same way. But I don't think they should be beaten up or denied jobs on the basis if their sexuality.

 

Lesbians kissing on the other hand is a true on for me. I simply cannot understand a male mind that does not find lesbians fascinating.

 

If the expression of my physical reactions causes me to be modded...I understand

[Pedrogaz]

5 hours ago, bert bloggs said:

While i think attacking a woman is disgusting ,i have read this story and i feel there is far more to it than just what these two  are saying ,

also in the story it said one of the youths spoke in a foreign language , so immigrants did it?

Dear Bert, I understand what you are saying...but I would like to comment on the first phrase and be slightly provocative....why is attacking a woman any worse than attacking a man? Is attacking a black belt karate woman worse than attacking an 80 years old fragile man?

You see where I am going with this...if there is equality and we are gender blind, why should the sex of the victim make any difference at all?

[dick dasterdly]

2 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Have you not witnessed the emboldening of groups of people to behave in a pack mentality? I am not suggesting that mob rule has never been a phenomenon in the past, but it appears to be worsening, and those who previously might have stayed grudgingly silent now seem to feel free to disregard the law or the rights of others. 

Disagree entirely.

 

'Pack mentality' - has always existed to one extent or another ☹️.

 

You'd prefer to put it down to brexit - but it would probably be better if you parade your anti-brexit views on another thread....

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

I have to be really honest, and say that men kissing makes me physically sick and I have to look away, but that is just a personal thing, I simply don't want or need to see it.

I don't want to see anyone kissing full stop, I even close my eyes when it's me doing the kissing.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I don't want to see anyone kissing full stop, I even close my eyes when it's me doing the kissing.

But the couple who were so brutally attacked were not kissing.

 

Central to the attack is the attempt by their assailants to force them to kiss, and when they didn't they brutally assaulted them.

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

Lesbians kissing on the other hand is a true on for me. I simply cannot understand a male mind that does not find lesbians fascinating.

 

And there we have it. 

 

The victims here were not kissing, but their attackers tried to force them to kiss; perhaps a bit of that 'turn on' you referred to. 

 

When they refused to kiss, they were brutally attacked. 

 

 

 

[from the home of CC]

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[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, ivor bigun said:

It certainly is in my old home town , there are areas,you would not dare go at night ,and its not where mainly non immigrants live.

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Sadly, that's the case in other areas too.

 

I lived in Luton for a few years, and it was hard to distinguish between the white yobs (non-immigrant)/'black/moslem' yobs etc. 

 

They were all as bad as each other ☹️.

[from the home of CC]

5 hours ago, Berkshire said:

London doesn't seem like a safe place anymore, not with these teenage animals roaming about.  Disgusting.

when you get right down to it, no place is safe anymore..

[ivor bigun]

But the couple who were so brutally attacked were not kissing.
 
Central to the attack is the attempt by their assailants to force them to kiss, and when they didn't they brutally assaulted them.

Another thing i find wrong is when people go straight to social media and post pictures,why did they have to do that? Why not just report it to the police,rather than plaster it all over the internet,or are they "proud to be gay" and want rverybody to know?
By the way i still think what was done to them was terrible and the shits that did it should do time.

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[GroveHillWanderer]

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Can it be homophobic and misogynistic at the same time?

Of course it can. It's perfectly possible to have a combination of motives for acting in a certain way. There's no rule that says you can only have a single, undiluted reason for doing something.