'Delay means defeat' - Johnson commits to October Brexit deadline

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'Delay means defeat' - Johnson commits to October Brexit deadline

By Elizabeth Piper

 

FILE PHOTO: Former British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, who is running to succeed Theresa May as Prime Minister, leaves his home in London, Britain, June 10, 2019. REUTERS/Hannah McKay/File Photo

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Boris Johnson, favourite to succeed Prime Minister Theresa May, will commit on Wednesday to taking Britain out of the European Union on Oct. 31, warning the governing Conservatives "delay means defeat" at a campaign launch.

 

In a crowded race to replace May, Brexit has become the touchstone policy for the contenders, with Johnson, who led the campaign to leave the EU almost three years ago, taking a tough stance to exit at the end of October, with or without a deal.

 

The former foreign secretary and ex-London mayor has won over many in his party by arguing only he can rescue the Conservative Party, which has been punished in recent elections over the government's inability to deliver Brexit on time.

 

And for many, the contest for prime minister is his to lose - he has the most declared Conservative supporters in parliament and is widely popular among the party's members, the people who will ultimately choose May's successor.

 

As in the 2016 referendum on EU membership, Johnson's message is clear - any more Brexit delays and the Conservative Party risks opening the door to a government led by opposition Labour leader and veteran socialist Jeremy Corbyn.

 

"After three years and two missed deadlines, we must leave the EU on October 31," he will say, according to extracts from his speech.

 

"We simply will not get a result if we give the slightest hint that we want to go on kicking the can down the road with yet more delay. Delay means defeat. Delay means Corbyn. Kick the can and we kick the bucket."

 

Almost three years since voting to leave the EU, Britain is no clearer on how, when or even whether Brexit will happen. Parliament has rejected the divorce deal negotiated with the EU three times and there is little agreement among lawmakers on Brexit.

 

Johnson hopes to win over Brexit supporters by promising to leave on Oct. 31 deal or no deal - a pitch that might win him support in his leadership bid, but one which also worries pro-EU lawmakers who have launched an attempt to stop any future government from leaving without a deal.

 

He has been criticised for hiding "in a bunker" by some of his opponents, but the strategy to reduce the media exposure of a man who has been prone to gaffes and scandals seems to be working, with his support so far holding up.

 

For many in the Conservatives, he is seen as one of a few prime ministerial hopefuls who could lead the party to another election victory after nine years in power.

 

"We cannot let them (Corbyn's Labour) anywhere near Downing Street and I would remind you that the last time I faced an emanation of that Marxist cabal I defeated him when the Conservatives were 17 points behind in London," he said, referring to his victory as the capital's mayor in 2008.

 

"And we can do it again."

 

(Editing by Janet Lawrence)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-06-12

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[soalbundy]

I wonder what he's going to say when reality kicks in.

[alanrchase]

Boris has already lost. It has become clear that we will not be getting much of what he promised.

[Laughing Gravy]

Remainers clearly worried in Boris gets the PM's job that they will not be able to overturn democracy and get another referendum, as the UK will be leaving the EU.

[fishtank]

Handing the leadership of the country to this bumbling serial lying buffoon.

You could not make it up.

But as the choice of the future PM is in the hands of 120,000 ancient middle class right wingers what do you expect?

Democracy? Cannot see any here.

 

[KiChakayan]

He repeatedly committed himself to lose weight and comb his hair...

[sammieuk1]

He needs longer than the others to get his story straight that's why he has been silent for 3 years and will be using a bendy bus this time????

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Remainers clearly worried in Boris gets the PM's job that they will not be able to overturn democracy and get another referendum, as the UK will be leaving the EU.

You seem to have missed the latest Brexiteer ‘democratic’ madness, Suspend Parliament to get a no-deal Brexit.

 

 

[evadgib]

37 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You seem to have missed the latest Brexiteer ‘democratic’ madness, Suspend Parliament to get a no-deal Brexit.

You are a little out of date. The full launch is this afternoon...

 

Edited June 12, 2019 by evadgib

[tomacht8]

20 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Boris's pitch is this afternoon. Here's a preview:

 

"Unite our fantastic country."

Sounds like a little Trump.

 

Has he already said something to the NI border solution?

Is there a majority for a no deal Brexit in parliament or among the UK citizens?

 

If he becomes PM, who has chosen him then? Certainly not the UK population.

555, is same like in the EU parliament.

I wonder why the brexiteers do not criticize that.

 

Meanwhile, I have my doubts whether there is still a majority for the Brexit in the UK population.

 

Let's see how long the nonsense goes on.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

54 minutes ago, evadgib said:

You are a little out of date. The full launch is this afternoon...

 

You really should start reading the comments beneath the twitter feeds you troll post on TVF. 

 

[soalbundy]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You seem to have missed the latest Brexiteer ‘democratic’ madness, Suspend Parliament to get a no-deal Brexit.

 

 

welcome back Cromwell, all is forgiven.

[vogie]

43 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

"Unite our fantastic country."

Sounds like a little Trump.

 

Has he already said something to the NI border solution?

Is there a majority for a no deal Brexit in parliament or among the UK citizens?

 

If he becomes PM, who has chosen him then? Certainly not the UK population.

555, is same like in the EU parliament.

I wonder why the brexiteers do not criticize that.

 

Meanwhile, I have my doubts whether there is still a majority for the Brexit in the UK population.

 

Let's see how long the nonsense goes on.

 

Because the outcome of Brexit is not to your desired outcome it does not make it nonsense, do you always think that you are the one who is correct all the time.

Whether you like or not the majority of the voting public in the UK voted to leave the EU, it was a democratic vote, sorry you don't like the result.

As for voting for a new PM that is the choice for the conservatives, do you have a similar system for electing the EU leaders?

But we are where we are and the EU has stated that the withdrawal agreement will under no circumstances be re-opened, so what the EU has done is to push the UK into a tight corner and limited our movement. They seem not too bothered about ruining their own economy as well as the UKs, so you will I'm sure appreciate that the UK has only one option left to retain the democracy that we cherish so much in our country.

[Rimmer]

A troll / flame post with an overlarge emoji has been removed

[Basil B]

32 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

welcome back Cromwell, all is forgiven.

Corbyn to fire a torpedo today...

Quote

Labour has tabled a cross-party motion to try to stop a future prime minister pushing through a no-deal Brexit against the wishes of MPs.

The party plans to force a vote on Wednesday which would give MPs control of the timetable on 25 June.

Labour says if the motion passes, MPs will be able to introduce legislation on that day to avoid a no-deal scenario at the end of October.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48598760

Already 3 tories have signed up to it...

 

Not a question of if this gets passed, but more like by how many...

325 - 300?

or

425 - 200?

 

Edited June 12, 2019 by Basil B

[Thakkar]

Yes, let’s trust the guy who can’t even negotiate with his own hair, has 2 children by 2 different women while married to a third woman who he left for a fourth woman, 24 years his junior.

[marko kok prong]

Can't see as it will make a difference if parliment votes down a no deal brexit,can a Pm suspend parliment?

[tomacht8]

13 minutes ago, vogie said:

Because the outcome of Brexit is not to your desired outcome it does not make it nonsense, do you always think that you are the one who is correct all the time.

Whether you like or not the majority of the voting public in the UK voted to leave the EU, it was a democratic vote, sorry you don't like the result.

As for voting for a new PM that is the choice for the conservatives, do you have a similar system for electing the EU leaders?

But we are where we are and the EU has stated that the withdrawal agreement will under no circumstances be re-opened, so what the EU has done is to push the UK into a tight corner and limited our movement. They seem not too bothered about ruining their own economy as well as the UKs, so you will I'm sure appreciate that the UK has only one option left to retain the democracy that we cherish so much in our country.

We will see how Boris de Pfeffel Johnson will sell his no deal brexit in the Parlament. Should not there be a majority, then what?

[dick dasterdly]

8 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Corbyn to fire a torpedo today...

Already 3 tories have signed up to it...

 

Not a question of if this gets passed, but more like by how many...

325 - 300?

or

425 - 200?

 

Corbyn has already been shown as someone who (nowadays) is only interested in his political career.

 

Who on earth cares about what he says anymore?

 

 

[Basil B]

Quote

Labour has tabled a cross-party motion for tomorrow that would hand control of the parliamentary agenda on Tues 25 June to prevent a future Prime Minister proroguing Parliament to force through a no-deal Brexit against the will of Parliament.

https://twitter.com/labourwhips/status/1138461731792084992/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1138461731792084992&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuk-politics-48598760

[evadgib]

GMB have just revealed a poll showing BJ would win a GE by 140 seats(!)

 

(They also made clear how unreliable polls are lol)

[Basil B]

10 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

Yes, let’s trust the guy who can’t even negotiate with his own hair, has 2 children by 2 different women while married to a third woman who he left for a fourth woman, 24 years his junior.

Or use a zip wire with out ****ing it up...

[dick dasterdly]

4 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

We will see how Boris de Pfeffel Johnson will sell his no deal brexit in the Parlament. Should not there be a majority, then what?

The uk leaves at the end of the latest (pointless....) extension.

 

I say this hopefully, as I've little doubt that our MPs will find a way to avoid this ☹️.

[vogie]

12 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

We will see how Boris de Pfeffel Johnson will sell his no deal brexit in the Parlament. Should not there be a majority, then what?

Unless the law changes we leave by default, and a lot also depends on how the EU want to play this, France has catagorically stated that there will be no further extensions, Juncker has said the agreement will not be re-opened, Jeremy Hunt has stated that Mrs Merkel may be willing to re-open the withdrawal agreement, but whether that's true or not is anybodies guess, working together will allways the best option, but at the end of the day, it takes two to tango.

Edited June 12, 2019 by vogie

[vogie]

14 minutes ago, evadgib said:

GMB have just revealed a poll showing BJ would win a GE by 140 seats(!)

 

(They also made clear how unreliable polls are lol)

A poll the other day also stated that Mrs May was still more popular than Corbyn.

[Dumbastheycome]

"at the end of the day, it takes two to tango. "

Very true!

So if that is the music being played  why are the dancers  all doing the  "quick step" ?????

[sammieuk1]

1 hour ago, tomacht8 said:

"Unite our fantastic country."

Sounds like a little Trump.

 

Has he already said something to the NI border solution?

Is there a majority for a no deal Brexit in parliament or among the UK citizens?

 

If he becomes PM, who has chosen him then? Certainly not the UK population.

555, is same like in the EU parliament.

I wonder why the brexiteers do not criticize that.

 

Meanwhile, I have my doubts whether there is still a majority for the Brexit in the UK population.

 

Let's see how long the nonsense goes on.

 

The unite bit is Chelsea Kensington and the Cotswolds ???? 

[Jane Dough]

5 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Remainers clearly worried in Boris gets the PM's job that they will not be able to overturn democracy and get another referendum, as the UK will be leaving the EU.

Enjoy your 27 to the pound.

 

Rooster

[nahkit]

2 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

"Unite our fantastic country."

Sounds like a little Trump.

 

Has he already said something to the NI border solution?

Is there a majority for a no deal Brexit in parliament or among the UK citizens?

 

If he becomes PM, who has chosen him then? Certainly not the UK population.

555, is same like in the EU parliament.

I wonder why the brexiteers do not criticize that.

 

Meanwhile, I have my doubts whether there is still a majority for the Brexit in the UK population.

 

Let's see how long the nonsense goes on.

 

"If he becomes PM, who has chosen him then? Certainly not the UK population."

 

Did you complain when Theresa May became prime minister without the UK population electing her or is it just wrong now?

[MRToMRT]

What a sad state of affairs the UK has gotten itself into, and it aint gonna improve with the 3 most influential current politicos being ........

 

Johnson, Corbyn, Farage 

 

What a sad state for a country to get itself into. CanI ever go back? I would not trust Johnson as far as I could throw a bus, Corbyn is so left he will try and tax the hell out of me and the last one is simply an ugly vehicle for Trumpism style politics at its worst.

Edited June 12, 2019 by MRToMRT