Talk of coup rears its ugly head again

[Justgrazing]

2 minutes ago, Cadbury said:

I agree and assume you are referring to this mean looking critter General Apirit Kongsompong now the present army boss. He has coups in his genes being the son of a previous military coup leader, General Sunthorn Kongsompong.

 

Jeez' he does love a decoration does he not .. though does he need a Submarine badge for the full set .. 

 

[boonrawdcnx]

Hahaha so now this idiot is threatening to stage a coup against himself?
It’s almost fun now to watch these retards destroy themselves out of pure greed!




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[FarFlungFalang]

Is it one flew over the coup coup's nest or is he just plain coup coup?

[Denim]

Looks like the country now has 4 seasons. Hot, rainy , cool, and coup which has no fixed months.

 

Anyway , if Prayuth returns any more happiness to the people the resultant bliss could prove fatal.

 

 

[faraday]

1 hour ago, Just1Voice said:

They don't need another coupe, they need a massive popular uprising like the French Revolution, including bringing the guillotine back. 

Absolutely.

 

And I'm sure we can think of a few volunteers for Madame Guillotine....

[ratcatcher]

1 hour ago, Just1Voice said:

They don't need another coupe, they need a massive popular uprising like the French Revolution, including bringing the guillotine back. 

Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette were excecuted by guillotine during the Revolution in 1792. Are you suggesting a similar fate for the "Unmentionables"?

[RichardColeman]

I think if there was another coup , next elections I guarantee would be quite a bit longer than the last one - if ever

[simon43]

19 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

Jeez' he does love a decoration does he not .. though does he need a Submarine badge for the full set .. 

 

Definitely missing a full set ????

[BestB]

39 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

Actually there is a faction within Prayuth's party, consisting of 30 MP's that already threatened to leave the party and coalition if they don't get what they want. That poses quite a problem for Prayuth, as loosing 30 MP's would mean no majority. And he must be pissed considering all the effort the EC has done to get him this majority...…….

Do not forget another 30 who are under review by the courts for media shareholding, and now add a few more who are unhappy with replacements and reshuffling 

[sjaak327]

28 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

The opposition bloc do have one chance of removing Prayut out through a censure debate. I think they are waiting for the opportune time to have sufficient disgruntled MPs; perhaps after the cabinet formation and the fallout soon after. Under the constitution, only the lower house vote. However the opposition still have to win over some senators. If not, the junta loyal senators can nominate him back as PM. The opposition bloc will lose that once-in-a-year censure opportunity. 

And this is exactly why the threat about another coup is uttered now. As even Prayuth will understand that surviving a censure debate with help of the senate, will make him a lame duck, until the next censure opportunity 

Edited July 2, 2019 by sjaak327

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

It would be interesting if there was another coup.

First thing Prayut would still want to be boss, but just think about the present army boss, he gonna stage a coup, then sit back and not want to be the boss, no way, it would be an interesting time.

I read it the same way. It's more of a warning if you don't let my junta government have their way, then the current end-of-army-life-but-not-rich-enough-yet commanders are ready to force their government junta on the nation, including Prayuth. Sort of 'you've failed, move over, it's our turn now.'

[bluesofa]

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

It would be interesting if there was another coup.

First thing Prayut would still want to be boss, but just think about the present army boss, he gonna stage a coup, then sit back and not want to be the boss, no way, it would be an interesting time.

Perhaps they could have a duel. Pistols at dawn - or maybe submarines.

[Lucius verus]

Prayuth is a usurper.

He couldn't even buy his way into office he is so hopeless.

Thuggery and intimidation of the press is all 3rd world army generals understand.

I dont think he will last 12 months.

Could be another election next year.

[the guest]

Thailand is the hub of Coups it seems. Given democracy (for what it's worth) doesn't work for the country, better to have a military presence to keep the peace.

[rkidlad]

1 minute ago, the guest said:

Thailand is the hub of Coups it seems. Given democracy (for what it's worth) doesn't work for the country, better to have a military presence to keep the peace.

Democracy works when you have checks and balances. Dictatorship works when you don't. 

 

Thailand isn't a unique and special country/culture. 

[SABloke]

1 hour ago, sjaak327 said:

Dodgy constitution which isn't even the one that got 'approved' two years back. 

I can think of 112 reasons why it's absolutely not dodgy in any way at all.

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Democracy works when you have checks and balances. Dictatorship works when you don't. 

 

Thailand isn't a unique and special country/culture. 

Yes, the USA, UK and France have working democracies ............ but they don't work.

Maybe time for them to try dictatorship.

Edited July 2, 2019 by BritManToo

[rkidlad]

Just now, BritManToo said:

Yes, the USA, UK and France have working democracies ............ but they don't work.

Maybe time for them to try dictatorship.

Maybe - let's put it to a vote. 

[spidermike007]

One thing that is not being taken into account here, is that in the past there was always a moral authority who blessed the coups. That situation no longer exists. 

[CGW]

20 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

One thing that is not being taken into account here, is that in the past there was always a moral authority who blessed the coups. That situation no longer exists. 

Wait and see? history tends to repeat itself..............

[dcnx]

1 hour ago, BobbyL said:

It is a shame that the Thias aren't as passionate about democracy and politics as the Hong Kong citizens.

 

Perhaps in another generation or so. 

Not in our lifetime.

[pornprong]

Four pages in, I note the absence of Baerboxer and Scorecard on this thread.

Why would that be?

Probably off conjuring up an argument as to why it's Thaksin's fault that Prayuth is going to have to commit a coup against himself within a year.

[Eric Loh]

56 minutes ago, robblok said:

Would be nice but I think its wishful thinking. Besides if they name the PM but don't have a majority then what. On the other hand watching him explode if he loses would be worth it. 

Not too wishful Rob. The junta bloc only has a very slim majority in the lower house. The censure debate is solely a parliament function and if a few of the disgruntled pro junta MPs cross over to the pro democracy bloc, Prayut will be in trouble. But the caveat is the fully appointed upper house that can vote him back as PM. The opposition bloc will have to be very certain of their action or it may backfired. 

 

IMO if he reach an impasse whether the cabinet or street disturbances. the elites will rather seek a neutral PM or just maybe a national government till the next election . The coup threat is just an empty threat because he do not have that authority. If he bow out, that will be equivalent to him exploding as you implied 

[londonthai]

... and the Nation and democrats will support every single military coup and every dictator. That they are payed for

[DrTuner]

2 hours ago, Just1Voice said:

They don't need another coupe, they need a massive popular uprising like the French Revolution, including bringing the guillotine back. 

I do love the sound of the guillotine in the mornings.

 

However that didn't go so well at first, Napoleon took over. But they did manage to get rid of feudalism, which finally did lead to sakdina free Europe. Worth it.

[Eric Loh]

49 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

And this is exactly why the threat about another coup is uttered now. As even Prayuth will understand that surviving a censure debate with help of the senate, will make him a lame duck, until the next censure opportunity 

The man has a short fuse and lacking wits and I think it’s an off the cuff remark. You know he can’t initiate a coup without the army backing. He no longer has that direct command of any military force. Plus he don’t have the backing from incumbent elites who are casting worried eyes on

the declining economic situation. In fact I see him dispensable and looking for an exit strategy. Just my worthless 2 cents opinion and wishing hard he will go peacefully????.

[grego49]

2 hours ago, soalbundy said:

wouldn't that decrease the value of the Baht ?  just thinking out loud.

We live in hope,,,,

[zydeco]

2 hours ago, Just1Voice said:

They don't need another coupe

Everybody in the coup has a coupe.

[GeorgeCross]

58 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

One thing that is not being taken into account here, is that in the past there was always a moral authority who blessed the coups. That situation no longer exists. 

 

agree and calling his bluff would bring near universal disapproval of the military's involvement in politics.

 

truth is if he cannot form a government he should do the honorable thing and stand down for the good of thailand and it's people.

 

i'm guessing that won't happen though

 

 

[londonthai]

40 minutes ago, pornprong said:

Four pages in, I note the absence of Baerboxer and Scorecard on this thread.

Why would that be?

Probably off conjuring up an argument as to why it's Thaksin's fault that Prayuth is going to have to commit a coup against himself within a year.

it well might mean, that they are the same person writing under different nicknames. They do came in waves. Log out and comes another poster