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Why are Dishwashers so Rare in Thailand?

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2 hours ago, steven100 said:

do you need to pre-program it …. and how often is it cleaned out  ?

 
2 hours ago, ChipButty said:

I've got a Long Haired Thai dishwasher works wonders

 

 

More to the point, do you service it often ? ????

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  • Why are Dishwashers so Rare in Thailand?   They're not rare, there's millions of them but you're probably better off with a machine - they don't nag at you ????.

  • They're not, ours is called Noi. Does a smashing job - when she's drunk.

  • They are for lazy people and waste a lot of water

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1 hour ago, geoffbezoz said:
 
 

 

 

More to the point, do you service it often ? ????

When I feel like it.

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

When I feel like it.

More like when she lets you

6 hours ago, ChipButty said:

I've got a Long Haired Thai dishwasher works wonders

Me too, but I could have bought a thousand electric dishwashers for less money, and the electric ones never nag.

labor is relatively cheap, just don't get married

Why are Dishwashers so Rare in Thailand?

 

Really?

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1 minute ago, connda said:

Why are Dishwashers so Rare in Thailand?

 

Really?

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Looks like that one's running on the economy cold wash cycle.

17 hours ago, SS1 said:

Diswasher tablets are expensive here 

Try the Homestar powder and rinse aid (and salt) from HomePro, they work just as well as the expensive imported products and are much cheaper. 

2 minutes ago, ColinChapman said:

Try the Homestar powder and rinse aid (and salt) from HomePro, they work just as well as the expensive imported products and are much cheaper. 

Sea salt works fine and is much cheaper as a water softener (that is the only reason it is used) and is available everywhere.  

Because the girls you take for the night will wash your dishes badly and for free.

18 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

No hot water.

No! They do have them and they are very good!! I know. I married one!!! 5555????????????????

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18 hours ago, SS1 said:

You don't need hot water for a dishwasher! you just plug in a cold water pipe and the machine heats the water itself (same as a clothes washer). The fact that kitchens don't have hot water even pushes me more towards getting one (as washing greasy dishes is a PIA with cold water). 

Can cold water clean dishes?
This is for all the germ conscious folks that worry about using cold water to clean.

John went to visit his 90 year old grandfather in a very secluded, rural area of Georgia.
 

After spending a great evening chatting the night away, John's grandfather prepared breakfast of bacon, eggs and toast.  However, John noticed a film like substance on his plate, and questioned his grandfather asking, "Are these plates clean?"

His grandfather replied, "They're as clean as cold water can get them. Just you go ahead and finish your meal, Sonny!"

For lunch the old man made hamburgers.  Again, John was concerned about the plates as his appeared to have tiny specks around the edge that looked like dried egg and asked, "Are you sure these plates are clean?"

Without looking up the old man said, "I told you before, Sonny, those dishes are as clean as cold water can get them.  Now don't you fret, I don't want to hear another word about it!"

Later that afternoon, John was on his way to a nearby town and as he was leaving, his grandfather's dog started to growl, and wouldn't let him pass.  John yelled and said, "Grandfather, your dog won't let me get to my car".

Without diverting his attention from the football game he was watching on TV, the old man shouted .

"COLDWATER, GO LAY DOWN!!!!"

Meet Coldwater.....................

 

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4 minutes ago, JusticeGB said:

Because the girls you take for the night will wash your dishes badly and for free.

That brings back memories! Not always washed badly though.

Nearly thirty years ago in Bangkok, one girl who stayed with me washed all my clothes and a pair of white canvas shoes - they had been scrubbed clean too.

I only found out when I woke up and saw everything in the sun, drying.

18 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

No hot water.

Out here in the boonies of Isaan, we have a dishwasher, which has a setting that heats the water.

A dishwasher is an absolute necessity of life -all my homes have one- of course perhaps if you have a slave/wife/ maid to clean the dishes- you might not think it a necessity.

 

And of course everything comes out sparkling and pretty sterile- compared to filthy dishwater etc.

 

 

4 minutes ago, peterb17 said:

A dishwasher is an absolute necessity of life -all my homes have one- of course perhaps if you have a slave/wife/ maid to clean the dishes- you might not think it a necessity.

And of course everything comes out sparkling and pretty sterile- compared to filthy dishwater etc.

I'm just concerned about everything coming out sterile.

Is that after you've tangled with the machine or the wife?

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Dishwashers? I am still looking for a sink. :cheesy:

8 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

I have yet to see any that would get clean without pre clean in sink if anything but flat type (which is not what they use here).  This is from more than 20 years of using in Thailand and 4 different models of dishwashers.  Yes they are good for sanitizing but not so great for cleaning.  That said perhaps if only cleaning for one or two people you would have space to allow better wash - but for extended family use/full washer the cleaning is not that good - and they are the people needing.  

My experience has been in home but company repair people are well aware of the issue so I am not alone.  Two different models had severe damage on 3 occasions that I recall.  

 

I have and Electrolux top of the line DW for 5 years. It makes hot water and sanitizes as well. Never had a repair.

My dishes are squeaky clean and glasses sparkle. Yes we do get an occasional plate that does not get cleaned perfectly.

The issue is getting quality DW detergent here in Thailand. The Thai products don't work very well and the US products are way over priced.

I usually ask friends to bring a bag back when they travel to their home country. I check eBay as well and have been able to get a decent price.

But what I don't get is sick/colds. AFAIK, must have a DW.

 

At Macro, you can get all the DW safe glasses and dishes you will ever need.

Because the wives don't need so much detergent 

6 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

Years ago Foodland had USA product that worked well but stopped stocking for Oz Finish which was less than useful (but seems to be in control here).  For a number of years was able to order on Ebay from seller in Spain but lost that source couple of years ago and had to use HomePro powder (which at least is a reasonable cost).  But have found Shopee source which will try once finnish current stock.

https://shopee.co.th/MLST-Multifunctional-Deep-Cleaning-Automatic-Dishwasher-Tablets-Detergent-Cleaner-i.104851683.2474271011

I have used that stuff from shopee and it's garbage. It doesn't desolve or clean well and leaves a lot of residue in the DW.  Try sourcing another brand on eBay or Amazon.

1 hour ago, lopburi3 said:

Sea salt works fine and is much cheaper as a water softener (that is the only reason it is used) and is available everywhere.  

They say sea salt damages the DW. How long have you been using it and why not use an all in one tab?

1 minute ago, Jeffrey346 said:

They say sea salt damages the DW. How long have you been using it and why not use an all in one tab?

He's probably not a Geordie.

8 hours ago, mfd101 said:

So how many times have you been sick as a result of lack of 'sterilization' of dishes? I doubt that 'hot' water - as opposed to boiling (and even then) - will sterilize anything. Cold water is fine.

True - cannot say I have ever been "sick" as a result of not having sterilized dishes or utensils

Most GF's I've been with only shower in cold water and they have tasted fine and kept me fit and healthy. 

 

So far, so good, lived most of my life without a electric dishwasher,

will ask my doctor next visit to get his opinion - 55

2 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

Sea salt works fine and is much cheaper as a water softener (that is the only reason it is used) and is available everywhere.  

Sea salt does nothing to soften water. Water softeners work by exchanging sodium ions for calcium and magnesium ions in hard water.

The chloride in sea salt would actually be bad for dishwashers built out of stainless steel, because it would cause stress corrosion cracking in many stainless alloys above 60 C. Most dishwashers operate at 80 - 90 C.

I guess you were asleep during chemistry lessons.

11 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

True - cannot say I have ever been "sick" as a result of not having sterilized dishes or utensils

Most GF's I've been with only shower in cold water and they have tasted fine and kept me fit and healthy. 

 

So far, so good, lived most of my life without a electric dishwasher,

will ask my doctor next visit to get his opinion - 55

Have you shared a common cold-water GF with your doctor, in order to ask his opinion of just how fine she tasted?

3 hours ago, whiteman said:

More like when she lets you

She seems to like letting me, if that's the case.

22 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Sea salt does nothing to soften water. Water softeners work by exchanging sodium ions for calcium and magnesium ions in hard water.

The chloride in sea salt would actually be bad for dishwashers built out of stainless steel, because it would cause stress corrosion cracking in many stainless alloys above 60 C. Most dishwashers operate at 80 - 90 C.

I guess you were asleep during chemistry lessons.

I was off sick with food poisoning the day we covered sea salt.

The detergent, especially are crazy expensive in Thailand. I brought lots of the 3 in 1 tabs from Germany. 44 of the tabs costs in Germany around 4 Euro, here you pay for 20 pieces of the 2 in 1 a fortune and the special salt is expensive too, no idea why. 

 

Thankfully we have no open kitchen but I think a dishwasher is perfect for them. No stinky used dishes standing around if you are too lazy to clean it directly after eating, and you smell it in the living room too.

Isn't it much cheaper to pay for a dish washer than to purchase a dishwasher?? 

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