Popular Post theoldgit Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 Yes, I'm afraid that the UKVI/Border Force, not the FCO as one member thinks, have seemed to show no compassion in this case. Yarls Wood Immigration Removal Centre is near Bedford and the local MP, Alistair Burt, until recently a Foreign Office Minister, takes a great deal of interest in Yarls Wood and those detained in it, I suspect it was he that challenged this ladies removal, and that's why it's been put on hold. I'm afraid that Enforcement Teams go for soft targets in order to meet their targets, yes, this lady had overstayed her visa, but hadn't gone under the radar, she was trying to extend the stay of her visit visa, which isn't strictly allowed, but it can be done in very limited circumstances, and I believe her case isn't one of them. I'm also suprised this lady has been detained, she's not a flight risk and whilst one of the main critera for detention is that she's removable, which she is, there is the option of reporting to the UKBA Officials at LHR, I'm wondering if she may have previously failed to report, in which case her detention would be lawful. It's not clear if the husband has returned to the UK on a permanent basis, in which case he'd be allowed to use the NHS for free, or was simply visiting, in which case he's reliant on insurance, either way, unless he has insurance in Thailand, he wouldn't be covered here. I'm afraid that whilst this lady may have been subjected to the letter of the law, it beggars belief that she should be required to travel back to Thailand to apply for another visa. I wish them both well. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 45 minutes ago, Cloudy said: Lets not base immigration standards on the Thai model which promotes racism and bigotry and no compassion or common sense. The main problem is "they know not what they do", a complete lack of critical thinking, absolute no knowledge of how to look for or to be aware of the ramifications of how one law / decision influences others laws or directives. In other words, no thinking beyond their nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Topdoc said: "They came to the UK last May, with a plan to go back to Thailand after Ms Leonardi’s six-month tourist visa expired." Under the circumstances, she should obviously be allowed to stay in the UK to look after her husband but would a foreigner on a tourist visa in Thailand be allowed the same? I believe the subject is about a Thai wife being deported from England. Start a different thread if you are that interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hansnl Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Scutty said: The UK is now a fascist and racist state and its going to get a lot worse . What with trump in USA and now our very own tin pot trump is that arse Johnson and the far right milkshake Farage rearing their ugly heads ....thank god for Thailand . Fascist and Racist? A kind of Nazi state then? Thank god for Thailand then? Are you ok? Need a bottle of Prozac maybe? Tin pots Farage, Johnson and Trump? Who let you out? You surely mean that Britain now is a Sharia controlled entity maybe where the Muslim hate canbe freely soread Or a EUrophile country controlled by all but British people? Edited July 31, 2019 by hansnl 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Huayrat Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Scutty said: The UK is now a fascist and racist state and its going to get a lot worse . What with trump in USA and now our very own tin pot trump is that arse Johnson and the far right milkshake Farage rearing their ugly heads ....thank god for Thailand . Still much better than the Terrorist corbyn 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuwadeeS Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just shows another time of Thai inhumane behavior. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post allyoops Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Scutty said: The UK is now a fascist and racist state and its going to get a lot worse . What with trump in USA and now our very own tin pot trump is that arse Johnson and the far right milkshake Farage rearing their ugly heads ....thank god for Thailand . What a load of crud, RACIST, the people who are discriminated against in the UK are the white male population. You have no clue at all about what you are talking about. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannoi Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Sounds like "The nasty party" is still alive and kicking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elwood Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, SuwadeeS said: Just shows another time of Thai inhumane behavior. Er...this happened in England! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Formaleins Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, thirdleg said: What on earth are you talking about!! I think you have the UK and Thailand mixed up. Exactly! The UK has become pathetic nanny State, afraid of doing anything that isn't written in triplicate in their rule book. Not one of those supposedly "running the country" has any sort of set of balls, it has become an embarrassment of a nation, pandering and cowering in political correctness in the hope of never so much as slightly offending any minority or misfit. Edited July 31, 2019 by Formaleins 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rosst Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, elwood said: Did you read the article? Married in 2015, travelled often between UK and Thailand. Applied for long term immigrant visa when he became seriously ill; she wasn't caught for working. Application refused and deportation ordered. The FO shows its stupidity by claiming that he could receive treatment in Thailand, without mentioning he would have to pay for it privately. The sheer lack of humanity is something I can't get over, how bloody terrible. It is to be hoped they can remain even if it is on the understanding that she leaves if and when he passes away. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post paulswebb Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 I think that English immigration is getting more like Thai immigration every day. Difference is Thai officialdom does not like foreigners whereas English immigration does not like the English. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onekoolguy Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Scutty said: The UK is now a fascist and racist state and its going to get a lot worse . What with trump in USA and now our very own tin pot trump is that arse Johnson and the far right milkshake Farage rearing their ugly heads ....thank god for Thailand . Your post has nothing to do with the poor guy who needs to keep his wife with him for a little longer. Edited July 31, 2019 by onekoolguy Spelling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Lemonltr said: Whilst I sympathise with them the article is incomplete. Was it an "informal marriage". I believe wives are given passports. Last May? Surely not 2 months ago. She must be on overstay. How was she picked up? Mostly its because they are caught working. Thai restaurant? Good news is that deportees are flown out free. I hope that it's sorted for them but not disappointed that UK is tightening up. Wifes gets indefinite leave to remain for any EU citizen. Tho u need to apply for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICELANDMAN Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, paulswebb said: I think that English immigration is getting more like Thai immigration every day. Difference is Thai officialdom does not like foreigners whereas English immigration does not like the English. If your read well The English immigration does not like Thai too, same we go on the world war immigration Edited July 31, 2019 by ICELANDMAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, ICELANDMAN said: 16 minutes ago, paulswebb said: I think that English immigration is getting more like Thai immigration every day. Difference is Thai officialdom does not like foreigners whereas English immigration does not like the English. If your read well The English immigration does not like Thai too i think he was eluding to the english "diversity" immigration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICELANDMAN Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, atyclb said: i think he was eluding to the english "diversity" immigration Sorry I need more time for think... If your read well The English immigration does not like Thai too, same we go on the world war immigration 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Insensitive klutz...must get some sadistic joy out of causing suffering...???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gojo62 Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 A little compassion is all it would take but the UK seems void of such things, just look how the treat people in unemployment centers, look how badly the ill get treated when trying to claim incapacity benefit. For it to change you would need a change of government but seems voting folk like austerity and the brexit farce now led by Boris the unwise. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stanaris Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 In my opinion they knew that he needed Dialysis and that is the reason for the visit this time because it is free here. Stage 5 CKD does not suddenly appear, I have stage 4 and have known for 3 years and have regular check ups. What I think they should have done is apply for Discretionary Leave to Remain which is often granted in similar circumstances. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Lemonltr said: Whilst I sympathise with them the article is incomplete. Was it an "informal marriage". I believe wives are given passports. Last May? Surely not 2 months ago. She must be on overstay. How was she picked up? Mostly its because they are caught working. Thai restaurant? Good news is that deportees are flown out free. I hope that it's sorted for them but not disappointed that UK is tightening up. Please don't comment without reading the main article first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dario Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I wonder what our good God up in the sky is thinking when he is witnessing how some people behave on Earth ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, Stanaris said: In my opinion they knew that he needed Dialysis and that is the reason for the visit this time because it is free here. Stage 5 CKD does not suddenly appear, I have stage 4 and have known for 3 years and have regular check ups. What I think they should have done is apply for Discretionary Leave to Remain which is often granted in similar circumstances. You are right. They could have also had an appointment in the UK and explained their circumstances to an Immigration lawyer. Once furnishing the lawyer with the correct documentation, the lady would have been given leave to stay and it would have been kicked around the system for two or three years, whilst they sorted their affairs out. It isn't even overly time consuming to do this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel52 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Does anyone know why they are being threatened with deportation? I didn’t read the whole back story on this. But the article says they’re threatening to deport his wife as well who’s a “Thailand native” according to the article so that tells me that as usual this isn’t the whole story because they can’t deport his wife as well if she’s a Thai citizen so obviously she must be a British passport holder she must have obtained her British citizenship just like most of my wife’s Thai friends back in the states. That’s if I read it right at least and if they really are threatening to deport the wife as well then I’m sure she’s no longer a Thai citizen. Doesn’t make sense so this is obviously not the whole story on yet another weird one. I do hope everything works out for them though I really do because bad things can happen to good people sometimes unfortunately. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartiniMan Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Hope they are ok - should write to their local MP and discuss the situation I'm sure he would help as immigration is not there to ruin peoples lives and he has a very valid case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Offensive troll posts and the replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickbat Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Home Office Minister ia Javid, son of a Pakistani London bus driver. It’s to do with rules and bogged in govt politics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyChristo Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 And Thai government are so fair about expat visas? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearbox Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 hours ago, elwood said: Did you read the article? Married in 2015, travelled often between UK and Thailand. Applied for long term immigrant visa when he became seriously ill; she wasn't caught for working. Application refused and deportation ordered. The FO shows its stupidity by claiming that he could receive treatment in Thailand, without mentioning he would have to pay for it privately. The UK FO tries to send one of its seriously ill citizens to receive treatment in Thailand? Wow.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy723 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 If America can let over 12 million illegal stay in Amsrica then the UK who also has many illegals in its country, surely they can let one honest lady stay and take care of her husband if not then Thailand should kick all the people from the UK out of Thailand 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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