Britain ready and willing to do a Brexit deal - government source

[snoop1130]

Britain ready and willing to do a Brexit deal - government source

 

FILE PHOTO: British Union Jack flags are seen on the desks of Members of the Brexit Party during a debate on the last European summit, at the European Parliament in Strasbourg, France, July 4, 2019. REUTERS/Vincent Kessler

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain is “ready and willing” to do a Brexit deal with the European Union, a senior government source said on Tuesday, after a newspaper reported that Prime Minister Boris Johnson was aiming for a no-deal Brexit.

 

“We want a deal. It’s sad that they don’t want to negotiate with us,” the source said on condition of anonymity.

 

“The fact that the Withdrawal Agreement has been rejected by large margins by the House of Commons on three occasions means that, if there’s going to be a deal, they have to be prepared to renegotiate. We’re ready and willing to do so.”

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-08-06

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[fishtank]

They have already negotiated a deal that the UK side agreed to.

[david555]

Easy … just make a border in the Irish sea and the backstop could be cancelled , easy peasy...

[Loiner]

They have already negotiated a deal that the UK side agreed to.

We’re open to a deal. Not a Surrender Treaty to become a vassal state of the Federal States of Europe.

[Loiner]

Easy … just make a border in the Irish sea and the backstop could be cancelled , easy peasy...

No backstop, even easier.

[david555]

3 minutes ago, Loiner said:

No backstop, even easier.

No deal the ultimate easiest 

[RuamRudy]

No backstop, even easier.

How will you control your borders then?

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[david555]

(The Americans are already weigh up their chances to become in strongest negotiation position....)

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/06/brexit-clinton-treasury-secretary-larry-summers-dismisses-desperate-uk-hopes-of-us-trade-deal

UK too desperate to secure US trade deal, says Clinton's treasury secretary

Britain in weak negotiating position despite Trump’s warm words, says Larry Summers

 

The former US treasury secretary Larry Summers has said he does not believe that a “desperate” UK would manage to secure a post-Brexit trade deal with Washington, as Dominic Raab, the new foreign secretary, heads to the US to scope out the potential for such an agreement.

 

Summers, who was a senior official under Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, said the UK was in a weak position when it came to negotiating with trade partners.

He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme on Tuesday: “Britain has no leverage, Britain is desperate … it needs an agreement very soon. When you have a desperate partner, that’s when you strike the hardest bargain.”

Edited August 6, 2019 by david555

[3NUMBAS]

they were always going to fight a rear guard action as they cant stand the loss of payments to keep their gravey train on the rails but the buffers are on their way causing their collapse just like the 3rd reich merkel and the 4th reich will collapse

[nauseus]

Looks like even more foreign interference - as if we don't have enough as it is.

[damascase]

7 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Looks like even more foreign interference - as if we don't have enough as it is.

But of course his comments would have been warmly welcomed if they were positive about a US-UK deal????.

[nauseus]

26 minutes ago, damascase said:

But of course his comments would have been warmly welcomed if they were positive about a US-UK deal????.

Ha     ha.

[usviphotography]

1 hour ago, david555 said:

(The Americans are already weigh up their chances to become in strongest negotiation position....)

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/06/brexit-clinton-treasury-secretary-larry-summers-dismisses-desperate-uk-hopes-of-us-trade-deal

UK too desperate to secure US trade deal, says Clinton's treasury secretary

Britain in weak negotiating position despite Trump’s warm words, says Larry Summers

 

The former US treasury secretary Larry Summers has said he does not believe that a “desperate” UK would manage to secure a post-Brexit trade deal with Washington, as Dominic Raab, the new foreign secretary, heads to the US to scope out the potential for such an agreement.

 

Summers, who was a senior official under Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, said the UK was in a weak position when it came to negotiating with trade partners.

He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme on Tuesday: “Britain has no leverage, Britain is desperate … it needs an agreement very soon. When you have a desperate partner, that’s when you strike the hardest bargain.”

That the US still considers the UK an "ally" after all that has happened demonstrates the soft spot and sentimental feelings Trump has for Great Britain. He will offer them a fair deal, even though he probably shouldn't. Trump has shown a consistent track record in this regard. UK lucked out in getting somebody of Trump's generation and mindset in the WH at this particular moment. 

[evadgib]

Updated today by No 10:

PM call with EU Commission President Juncker: 25 July 2019

[7by7]

4 hours ago, Loiner said:

We’re open to a deal. Not a Surrender Treaty to become a vassal state of the Federal States of Europe.

 

Now that Boris has achieved his long term aim I fully expect him to bring back May's deal with a few tweaks here and word changes there whilst claiming it a personal triumph.

[oldhippy]

If only the European electorate were given the opportunety to vote: Keep the British on board OR kick them out.

 

I don't think there would have been a narrow margin in the results of that vote.

 

[7by7]

5 hours ago, david555 said:

Easy … just make a border in the Irish sea and the backstop could be cancelled , easy peasy...

Only someone with absolutely no idea about Northern Irish politics, no idea about the GFA, no idea about the CTA, no idea at all could say that such a ludicrous 'solution' was 'easy peasy!'

 

Why would a constituent part of the UK where the majority of it's citizens wish to remain so accept a border of any kind between it and the rest of the UK?

Edited August 6, 2019 by 7by7

[oldhippy]

4 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

Only someone with absolutely no idea about Northern Irish politics, no idea about the GFA, no idea about the CTA, no idea at all could say that such a ludicrous 'solution' was 'easy peasy!'

 

Why would a constituent part of the UK where the majority of it's citizens wish to remain so accept a border of any kind between it and the rest of the UK?

Not easy peasy indeed.

 

But to get out of this ever continuing mess, sacrifices will have to be made.

 

[david555]

8 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

Only someone with absolutely no idea about Northern Irish politics, no idea about the GFA, no idea about the CTA, no idea at all could say that such a ludicrous 'solution' was 'easy peasy!'

 

Why would a constituent part of the UK where the majority of it's citizens wish to remain so accept a border of any kind between it and the rest of the UK?

Does Gibraltar not have a border with Spain or other British parts in the World ? The Falklands far away …, so why it could not be done to solve the most difficult part ….. unless just unwillingness or stubbornness … so than comes other sides red line appearing too. 

[7by7]

5 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

Not easy peasy indeed.

 

But to get out of this ever continuing mess, sacrifices will have to be made.

 

 

Maybe, but breaking the GFA and the potential return to the Troubles is too great a sacrifice.

[7by7]

Just now, david555 said:

Does Gibraltar not have a border with Spain or other British parts in the World ? The Falklands far away …, so why it could not be done to solve the most difficult part ….. unless just unwillingness or stubbornness … so than comes other sides red line appearing too. 

Gibralter does have a land border with Spain; but Spain is not part of the UK.

 

Neither is Gibraltar; it is a British Overseas Territory.

 

There is also no international treaty signed by the UK or anyone else which says there will be no border between Gibraltar and Spain. There is such a treaty about the border between NI and the RoI; the GFA.

[david555]

2 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

Gibralter does have a land border with Spain; but Spain is not part of the UK.

 

Neither is Gibraltar; it is a British Overseas Territory.

 

There is also no international treaty signed by the UK or anyone else which says there will be no border between Gibraltar and Spain. There is such a treaty about the border between NI and the RoI; the GFA.

That's how you see it an d how I saw it , different opinions and that's it we don't agree (and that's not a problem for me ) so status quo as it is now , blockage ...T.M had red lines all over.., for the leave camp and others for the remain camp trying to friend both ….. so red lines in overflow …., and bumping against the E.U. own red lines.

All was set out from E.U. side from beginning , they where very clear and consistent.

But all becomes finally to an end very soon U..K. can have his Brexit so all ends fine ….isn't it ?

I have no bad feelings with it , as I expected already 2 months after A50 was given.. no happy divorce as 2 sides to different ….

And besides it is the U.K. who is leaving , not the E.U. leaving U.K. 

[Enoon]

“The fact that the Withdrawal Agreement has been rejected by large margins by the House of Commons on three occasions means that, if there’s going to be a deal, they have to be prepared to renegotiate. We’re ready and willing to do so.” 

 

No it doesn't.

 

It means that the Commons is well down the road towards rejecting departure altogether.

 

it will be much easier for them to reject a perceived catastrophic "No-Deal" if that is all that is on offer.

 

MP to PA:

 

"What do the polls say, what do they say?

 

Just a question of language and presentation.

 

As it always was.

 

 

[edwinchester]

10 hours ago, usviphotography said:

That the US still considers the UK an "ally" after all that has happened demonstrates the soft spot and sentimental feelings Trump has for Great Britain. He will offer them a fair deal, even though he probably shouldn't. Trump has shown a consistent track record in this regard. UK lucked out in getting somebody of Trump's generation and mindset in the WH at this particular moment. 

Trump is a craven opportunist. Any trade deal offered will be in US favour and will include having to accept US appallingly low food standards and the breakup of the UK's NHS to allow access to the US private health care interests.

As a previous post says, UK is in a weak bargaining spot here and anyone who thinks Trump/US won't want want to maximize leverage in negotiations in a trade deal is living in cloud cuckoo land.

 

[samran]

The UK wants out of the EU, then they get in line for a trade deal like everyone else.

 

Canada’s deal took nearly decade to nail down. Australia’s negotiations with the EU has been in its ‘final stages’ for about 3 years. 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2019 by samran

[elcaro]

9 hours ago, oldhippy said:

If only the European electorate were given the opportunety to vote: Keep the British on board OR kick them out.

 

I don't think there would have been a narrow margin in the results of that vote.

 

I think if that vote would be held now, it would be close as people are fed up with British entitlement act.

[JonnyF]

10 hours ago, oldhippy said:

If only the European electorate were given the opportunety to vote: Keep the British on board OR kick them out.

 

I don't think there would have been a narrow margin in the results of that vote.

 

The European electorate given the opportunity to vote on anything meaningful? ???? I think you're massively overestimating the levels of democracy in the EU.

 

Von Der Leyen will decide. She was 'elected' after days of horse trading resulted in a classic German/French stitch up in the darkened, grubby, smoke filled back rooms of Brussels during which they ensured their chosen individual (an easily manipulated puppet) was the only candidate for the position. This is democracy, EU style.

[david555]

10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The European electorate given the opportunity to vote on anything meaningful? ???? I think you're massively overestimating the levels of democracy in the EU.

 

Von Der Leyen will decide. She was 'elected' after days of horse trading resulted in a classic German/French stitch up in the darkened, grubby, smoke filled back rooms of Brussels during which they ensured their chosen individual (an easily manipulated puppet) was the only candidate for the position. This is democracy, EU style.

Boris "nomination" as P.M. looks very much alike ...., even less democratic as it was only 1 group " JRM's backroom way " made it for him …isn't that the same ? 

Don't bother ...I think I know your reply already …

 

(the kettle blaming the cooking pot his bottom is black lol...)

Edited August 7, 2019 by david555

[Paul52]

16 hours ago, david555 said:

Easy … just make a border in the Irish sea and the backstop could be cancelled , easy peasy...

At some point the english will have to give back the 6 counties that they stole.  Of course, there will be huge resistance to a referendum, but the occupied 6 counties in Ulster will be the hardest hit by the economic vandalism of english no deal insanity, and a referendum will be legally unavoidable when the inevitable numbers demand it.

 

Within 5 - 10 years Scottish independence will follow.  Little england with all its nut job little englanders will be forgotten and all alone in the world.  No more important or significant than Mauritius or Sri Lanka, but very popular with money launderers.

[Grusa]

11 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Only someone with absolutely no idea about Northern Irish politics, no idea about the GFA, no idea about the CTA, no idea at all could say that such a ludicrous 'solution' was 'easy peasy!'

 

Why would a constituent part of the UK where the majority of it's citizens wish to remain so accept a border of any kind between it and the rest of the UK?

The vast majority of Brits don't give a damn about Ireland, North or South, and would prefer to see the whole troublesome island cast adrift in the Atlantic, and sunk.

And, it would be good idea to fill it up with all the radicalised fanatics of all persuasions before cutting the moorings.