TaaSaparot Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 4 hours ago, kinyara said: Since the venue has been discussed on here previously I will mention that the PJ-DJ bar on Soi 7 has "temporarily" closed down. No surprise to some of us, a certain inevitability about the owners decision. Always thought it was an over-ambitious move perhaps driven by the popularity of his other bar, but then that area is now where Soi 7's traditional market has moved to all year round. There is no PJ-DJ Bar now, it was sold and renamed A7-DJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinyara Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 11 hours ago, TaaSaparot said: There is no PJ-DJ Bar now, it was sold and renamed A7-DJ And obviously rebaranding it made all the difference. ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 3:50 AM, mstevens said: How busy is it usually at 11 PM? Only ever been there much earlier. Maybe the masses had walked around the corner to Walking Street and the gogo bars were all rammed full at that time? they made the usual common error and bad business choice of increasing prices when customer levels are very limited across Pattaya and the result - an empty bar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 21 hours ago, kinyara said: Always thought it was an over-ambitious move perhaps driven by the popularity of his other bar The owners of both venues might not be what you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 8 hours ago, smedly said: they made the usual common error and bad business choice of increasing prices when customer levels are very limited across Pattaya and the result - an empty bar That old tried and tested business model in Thailand that i sure to make you go bust. Even buffaloes learn from their mistakes. It astounds me how many businesses actually fold in Thailand. Coffee shops open next to another, 7/11, shops and countless others that just don't seem to have a business plan for 5 years and a marketing strategy. I would like to think that this would change but I don't believe it will. It seems ingrained in a mindset that will take many many years to erode. Which is a shame as it has the potential to be be one of the most prosperous counties in SE Asia with its natural resources. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 11 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said: That old tried and tested business model in Thailand that i sure to make you go bust. Even buffaloes learn from their mistakes. It astounds me how many businesses actually fold in Thailand. Coffee shops open next to another, 7/11, shops and countless others that just don't seem to have a business plan for 5 years and a marketing strategy. I would like to think that this would change but I don't believe it will. It seems ingrained in a mindset that will take many many years to erode. Which is a shame as it has the potential to be be one of the most prosperous counties in SE Asia with its natural resources. As a customer, I love the turnover of restaurants, always somewhere new to try, and some get added to my list of regulars. And, is it really any different of any other city? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said: That old tried and tested business model in Thailand that i sure to make you go bust. Even buffaloes learn from their mistakes. It astounds me how many businesses actually fold in Thailand. Coffee shops open next to another, 7/11, shops and countless others that just don't seem to have a business plan for 5 years and a marketing strategy. I would like to think that this would change but I don't believe it will. It seems ingrained in a mindset that will take many many years to erode. Which is a shame as it has the potential to be be one of the most prosperous counties in SE Asia with its natural resources. What always amazed me was the amount of times some Thais went into obvious business failures and still found the money for the next stupid idea. No shortage of money out there, same with the new car thing and other huge expenses they seem to suck up, bemoan but learn nothing from. Edited July 18, 2020 by englishoak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 hours ago, TaaSaparot said: As a customer, I love the turnover of restaurants, always somewhere new to try, and some get added to my list of regulars. And, is it really any different of any other city? I like some new but the change in Thailand is so dramatic. You just get use to a place and the place closes down due to lack of planning and thought. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisandsu Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 4 hours ago, englishoak said: What always amazed me was the amount of times some Thais went into obvious business failures and still found the money for the next stupid idea. No shortage of money out there, same with the new car thing and other huge expenses they seem to suck up, bemoan but learn nothing from. I see that as a positive for the Thais . Why give up on life if you fail ? I have failed at things many times some my fault and some not. But with every failure I have come back stronger . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rimmer Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 A commercial advert about a bar opening has been removed: Is the closure of your favorite bar or restaurant imminent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Bamboo Bar, who had re-opened, have now decided to close until things pick up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 8 hours ago, TaaSaparot said: Bamboo Bar, who had re-opened, have now decided to close until things pick up. Back to minding the children's offspring for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Mixx Discotheque has now decided to re-open (again) but only on Friday & Saturday nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Pacha Agogo temporarily closing and moving to Fahrenheit. Bliss Agogo temporarily closing and moving to Palace Agogo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidJames Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 It's like a game of go-go chess with the pawns being taken out first. The landlords will be like the knights chasing around at odd angles trying to put the rents up on the castles & bishops left standing not really worrying the queen & king as they own them outright. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I noticed today the Avenue food court is down to about 6-7-8? food stalls....And it seems they have turned off the air-con there.....When I was there I only saw a few people eating......The rest of the food court is empty..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, redwood1 said: I noticed today the Avenue food court is down to about 6-7-8? food stalls....And it seems they have turned off the air-con there.....When I was there I only saw a few people eating......The rest of the food court is empty..... I thought it closed months ago, the end is nigh anyway, the electronic card till people left months ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 19 hours ago, SidJames said: It's like a game of go-go chess with the pawns being taken out first. The landlords will be like the knights chasing around at odd angles trying to put the rents up on the castles & bishops left standing not really worrying the queen & king as they own them outright. and how much income does an empty property generate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SidJames Posted July 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 hours ago, kingdong said: and how much income does an empty property generate? It honestly doesn't seem to bother these big Bangkok families. For the most part they didn't make their money through years of hard work & entrepreneurial spirit plus their other revenue streams discount their relatively low rental returns. If they had to pay business rates/taxes on their properties then we might see a different outcome but there is a very cosy club at the higher echelons of business & freehold property in this country. There is a very tiny minority of the population here that own the vast majority of the wealth & that ain't changing anytime soon. Guess how the caffeine drink kid was just allowed back in & it wasn't a few envelopes to the BiB ???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffhead71 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 12:39 AM, smedly said: The owners of both venues might not be what you think They seem dodgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 12 hours ago, redwood1 said: I noticed today the Avenue food court is down to about 6-7-8? food stalls....And it seems they have turned off the air-con there.....When I was there I only saw a few people eating......The rest of the food court is empty..... It never seemed to be doing very well. Conversely the one in Big-CX is always busy, there is amusuements for the kids there though so it is an indoor playground too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 21 hours ago, kingdong said: and how much income does an empty property generate? For a Thai, an empty property doesn't generate money, but it generates a lot of "face." However, this time, there will be no one for a Thai landlord to hold out for. Even if they lost some face and lowered their prices, there's still no takers, and will not be for the foreseeable future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kinyara Posted July 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Leaver said: For a Thai, an empty property doesn't generate money, but it generates a lot of "face." However, this time, there will be no one for a Thai landlord to hold out for. Even if they lost some face and lowered their prices, there's still no takers, and will not be for the foreseeable future. Good to have you back Leaver, there were a couple of suicides recently and I did think of you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scammed Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 On 8/13/2019 at 9:23 PM, Leaver said: Seriously guys, is there no concern for the establishments you frequent? I know I have seen a few of my favorite places really struggling, to the point I would not be surprised to see their doors closed soon. A few of these are well established and nice places, that did have regular, and repeat clientele. Good food. Pleasant staff. Nice environment. Cold beer. All the sport on. I will miss them, if / when they close. honestly no, i dont stick around if the view or cost of beer becomes noncompetitive, another place will sail up as my temporary favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 7/24/2020 at 6:01 PM, redwood1 said: I noticed today the Avenue food court is down to about 6-7-8? food stalls....And it seems they have turned off the air-con there.....When I was there I only saw a few people eating......The rest of the food court is empty..... So the planned Pattaya Nana Plaza at "The Avenue" hasnt opened yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, johng said: So the planned Pattaya Nana Plaza at "The Avenue" hasnt opened yet ? If it was not for Villa, it would be aa ghost town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 If Mr D.I.Y is still there I may take a look this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 15 hours ago, kinyara said: Good to have you back Leaver, there were a couple of suicides recently and I did think of you. It's nice to feel missed. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 11 hours ago, scammed said: i dont stick around if the view or cost of beer becomes noncompetitive Surprised you are still in Pattaya then. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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