Anti-Brexit party reveals candidates for emergency UK government

[snoop1130]

Anti-Brexit party reveals candidates for emergency UK government

 

FILE PHOTO: Labour politician Harriet Harman joins a vigil in Trafalgar Square the day after an attack, in London, Britain March 23, 2017. REUTERS/Hannah McKay/File Photo

 

LONDON (Reuters) - The leader of the anti-Brexit Liberal Democrats party said on Friday two senior lawmakers from the ruling party and opposition have indicated willingness to lead an emergency government to prevent a no-deal divorce with the European Union.

 

Given Prime Minister Boris Johnson wants to take Britain out of the EU on Oct. 31, with or without a negotiated transition, foes are plotting how to bring him down and stop a no-deal Brexit they say would be disastrous for the economy.

 

The main opposition party Labour’s leader Jeremy Corbyn wants a no-confidence vote, caretaker government with him as head, then an election, while the Liberal Democrats prefer to find alternative leaders for a unity government.

 

Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson told BBC radio on Friday that former Labour deputy leader Harriet Harman and ruling Conservative party veteran Ken Clarke had both told her they would be prepared to assume that role.

 

“They put public duty first and they don’t want to see a no-deal Brexit,” Swinson said.

 

“If the House of Commons asks them to lead an emergency government to get our country out of this Brexit mess and to stop us driving off that cliff to a no deal, then yes they are prepared to do that.”

 

With Johnson staking his premiership on Brexit, the EU refusing to re-open a previously-negotiated withdrawal deal and a majority of lawmakers opposed to a no-deal divorce, Britain is heading for a parliamentary showdown and constitutional crisis.

 

Opponents of no deal say it would be a nightmare for what was once one of the West’s most stable democracies. A disorderly divorce, they say, would hurt global growth, send shockwaves through financial markets and weaken London’s claim to be the world’s preeminent financial centre.

 

Brexit supporters say there may be short-term disruption from a no-deal exit but that the economy will eventually thrive if cut free from what they cast as a doomed experiment in integration that has led to Europe falling behind China and the United States.

 

Labour wants a vote of no-confidence in the government shortly after parliament returns from its summer break on Sept. 3. Energy Minister Kwasi Kwarteng told Sky News the government would win such a vote.

 

“I don’t see Jeremy Corbyn being able to come together with the numbers, nor do I see any prospect of him leading a so called national unity government,” he said.

 

“He’s the most unpopular leader of the opposition we’ve ever had and the idea that he’s going to lead a unity government I think is ridiculous,” he said.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-08-16

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[evadgib]

The Pro Brexit party has other ideas and has a head start:

 

[RuamRudy]

3 hours ago, evadgib said:

The Pro Brexit party has other ideas and has a head start:

 

Looks like he is confident Scotland is in the bag ????????????

 

Nigel Farage cancels Scotland leg of UK tour as events calendar is 'trimmed down'

 

"The Brexit Party had admitted it has had to 'trim down' part of Nigel Farage's UK tour - removing Scotland from its calendar of events.

It is not the first time Nigel Farage has had problems packing out a room on a tour date.

Farage's Syndney tour date was moved to a smaller room after he failed to fill a 2,500-seat venue, despite a reduction in ticket prices.

In 2017 his one-man show in Clacton was outsold by an Elvis tribute act. As of the day before the gig, he'd sold just 179 of the 802 available tickets."

[baboon]

48 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Looks like he is confident Scotland is in the bag ????????????

 

Nigel Farage cancels Scotland leg of UK tour as events calendar is 'trimmed down'

 

"The Brexit Party had admitted it has had to 'trim down' part of Nigel Farage's UK tour - removing Scotland from its calendar of events.

It is not the first time Nigel Farage has had problems packing out a room on a tour date.

Farage's Syndney tour date was moved to a smaller room after he failed to fill a 2,500-seat venue, despite a reduction in ticket prices.

In 2017 his one-man show in Clacton was outsold by an Elvis tribute act. As of the day before the gig, he'd sold just 179 of the 802 available tickets."

Wait for the inevitable 'Other, far more important commitments' comments, despite him / his people already booking events.

[Justgrazing]

4 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The main opposition party Labour’s leader Jeremy Corbyn wants a no-confidence vote, caretaker government with him as head,

The communist who would be King .. In you're dreams Jezza .. 

[nauseus]

ooh we're saaaaved....

 

[Basil B]

30 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

The communist who would be King .. In you're dreams Jezza .. 

King Canute (spelt a little different without an A or E)

[Basil B]

Unfortunately as leader of the opposition JC is the only person who can table a motion of no confidence in the government, he won't do it unless he was to lead his "Caretaker Government" or there would be a GE. 

[AlexRich]

It will never happen? That's the confident cry of TV forum Brexiteers ... but this forum will be a lot more fun if it does.

 

And an added bonus is that GBP will strengthen against the Baht.

 

Parliamentary reality will soon be bursting Boris's balloon.

 

 

[AlexRich]

17 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Unfortunately as leader of the opposition JC is the only person who can table a motion of no confidence in the government, he won't do it unless he was to lead his "Caretaker Government" or there would be a GE. 

But there would be a GE after the national unity government has sorted Brexit.

[beautifulthailand99]

2 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Looks like he is confident Scotland is in the bag ????????????

 

Nigel Farage cancels Scotland leg of UK tour as events calendar is 'trimmed down'

 

"The Brexit Party had admitted it has had to 'trim down' part of Nigel Farage's UK tour - removing Scotland from its calendar of events.

It is not the first time Nigel Farage has had problems packing out a room on a tour date.

Farage's Syndney tour date was moved to a smaller room after he failed to fill a 2,500-seat venue, despite a reduction in ticket prices.

In 2017 his one-man show in Clacton was outsold by an Elvis tribute act. As of the day before the gig, he'd sold just 179 of the 802 available tickets."

Farage the Spiv who married a German and has an EU pension wouldn't dare step a foot in Scotland  - that said he wouldn't be short of milkshapes.....

 

 

[beautifulthailand99]

I'm marching are you ?

 

Organisers announce plans for the 'biggest political protest in British history' to stop Brexit

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/people-s-vote-brexit-protest-october-2019-1-6211767

[AGareth2]

9 hours ago, Basil B said:

Unfortunately as leader of the opposition JC is the only person who can table a motion of no confidence in the government, he won't do it unless he was to lead his "Caretaker Government" or there would be a GE. 

any mp can table

but the govt only needs to respond to HM's loyal opposition

Swinson has already tabled

[AGareth2]

9 hours ago, AlexRich said:

But there would be a GE after the national unity government has sorted Brexit.

don't believe him

[sammieuk1]

Here goes what's left of the 60p pound as the clamour for power reaches fever the army is looking a good choice right now if only on the streets to quell an impeding rebellion????   

[crazykopite]

????????????????????????????????????????

[Basil B]

30 minutes ago, AGareth2 said:

any mp can table

but the govt only needs to respond to HM's loyal opposition

Swinson has already tabled

Yes, but only has to respond to; the opposition leader? any MP deputising for them? any member of the shadow government? any MP of HM's loyal opposition?

 

I was of the understanding it was only the leader of HM's Loyal opposition, which was what I was really trying to say before you split hairs...

 

With the prospects of no party getting a majority, and the two party system is replaced with 4 or more parties having substantial representation the whole system needs looking at... assuming the largest party not in the governing coalition but did not represent 50% of MP's of parties not forming said coalition, may be we need for all MP's in opposition to elect a opposition leader and shadow cabinet.

[gamini]

31 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Yes, but only has to respond to; the opposition leader? any MP deputising for them? any member of the shadow government? any MP of HM's loyal opposition?

 

I was of the understanding it was only the leader of HM's Loyal opposition, which was what I was really trying to say before you split hairs...

 

With the prospects of no party getting a majority, and the two party system is replaced with 4 or more parties having substantial representation the whole system needs looking at... assuming the largest party not in the governing coalition but did not represent 50% of MP's of parties not forming said coalition, may be we need for all MP's in opposition to elect a opposition leader and shadow cabinet.

The UK sake I hope this happens

[JAG]

A group within Parliament seeks to take control of the Government of The United Kingdom, for a specific purpose, preventing The UK from leaving the European Union.

 

In the referendum on leaving the UK, held in 2016, a simple majority, 51% to 48% responded to a simple binary question, and voted for the UK to leave the UK The turnout was 72%

 

In a general election held subsequently, in 2017, of 650 parliamentary seats in the UK parliament, 579 were won by two parties (Labour and Conservative) which both campaigned on a platform of honouring that referendum result, and leaving the EU. The Conservatives, as the largest party in Parliament, formed a government (supported by the Ulster Unionists). Turnout in this election was 68%, of whom 82% voted for candidates belonging to parties whose manifestos were to honour and elect that referendum result.

 

The resulting  government introduced an Act of Parliament which was passed (with a substantial) majority in parliament, and subsequently became law, whose purpose was to take the UK out of the EU.

 

In the EU elections this year, 43 out of 73 seats were won by parties which were committed to taking the UK out of the EU.

 

The electorate have, 3 times in four years, declared through the ballot box, using a referendum vote with a simple question and a simple majority, first past the post constituency elections and proportional representation elections their wish for the UK to leave the EU. The government has passed an Act of Parliament which states that the UK will leave, and has set an (amended) date of October the 31st. The government have categorically stated that they will not amend that date again. This group has no mandate for what they propose. If they succeed in deposing the government then a general election will follow. That election will almost certainly be held after October the 31st. It is not a case of a caretaker government taking a decision which it is not entitled to take - the decision was quite properly, legally and constitutionally taken over several years. The voters (three times) and the Parliament which they elected have said we will leave, so leave we should.

[Jip99]

7 minutes ago, JAG said:

A group within Parliament seeks to take control of the Government of The United Kingdom, for a specific purpose, preventing The UK from leaving the European Union.

 

In the referendum on leaving the UK, held in 2016, a simple majority, 51% to 48% responded to a simple binary question, and voted for the UK to leave the UK The turnout was 72%

 

In a general election held subsequently, in 2017, of 650 parliamentary seats in the UK parliament, 579 were won by two parties (Labour and Conservative) which both campaigned on a platform of honouring that referendum result, and leaving the EU. The Conservatives, as the largest party in Parliament, formed a government (supported by the Ulster Unionists). Turnout in this election was 68%, of whom 82% voted for candidates belonging to parties whose manifestos were to honour and elect that referendum result.

 

The resulting  government introduced an Act of Parliament which was passed (with a substantial) majority in parliament, and subsequently became law, whose purpose was to take the UK out of the EU.

 

In the EU elections this year, 43 out of 73 seats were won by parties which were committed to taking the UK out of the EU.

 

The electorate have, 3 times in four years, declared through the ballot box, using a referendum vote with a simple question and a simple majority, first past the post constituency elections and proportional representation elections their wish for the UK to leave the EU. The government has passed an Act of Parliament which states that the UK will leave, and has set an (amended) date of October the 31st. The government have categorically stated that they will not amend that date again. This group has no mandate for what they propose. If they succeed in deposing the government then a general election will follow. That election will almost certainly be held after October the 31st. It is not a case of a caretaker government taking a decision which it is not entitled to take - the decision was quite properly, legally and constitutionally taken over several years. The voters (three times) and the Parliament which they elected have said we will leave, so leave we should.

 

 

This post should be a pinned topic.

 

It states exactly where we are and should act as a preventative to the whining remainers who said "It's not fair......blah, blah".

 

With your permission JAG, I would like to post your erudite words on some other  local forums.

[david555]

10 minutes ago, JAG said:

A group within Parliament seeks to take control of the Government of The United Kingdom, for a specific purpose, preventing The UK from leaving the European Union.

 

In the referendum on leaving the UK, held in 2016, a simple majority, 51% to 48% responded to a simple binary question, and voted for the UK to leave the UK The turnout was 72%

 

In a general election held subsequently, in 2017, of 650 parliamentary seats in the UK parliament, 579 were won by two parties (Labour and Conservative) which both campaigned on a platform of honouring that referendum result, and leaving the EU. The Conservatives, as the largest party in Parliament, formed a government (supported by the Ulster Unionists). Turnout in this election was 68%, of whom 82% voted for candidates belonging to parties whose manifestos were to honour and elect that referendum result.

 

The resulting  government introduced an Act of Parliament which was passed (with a substantial) majority in parliament, and subsequently became law, whose purpose was to take the UK out of the EU.

 

In the EU elections this year, 43 out of 73 seats were won by parties which were committed to taking the UK out of the EU.

 

The electorate have, 3 times in four years, declared through the ballot box, using a referendum vote with a simple question and a simple majority, first past the post constituency elections and proportional representation elections their wish for the UK to leave the EU. The government has passed an Act of Parliament which states that the UK will leave, and has set an (amended) date of October the 31st. The government have categorically stated that they will not amend that date again. This group has no mandate for what they propose. If they succeed in deposing the government then a general election will follow. That election will almost certainly be held after October the 31st. It is not a case of a caretaker government taking a decision which it is not entitled to take - the decision was quite properly, legally and constitutionally taken over several years. The voters (three times) and the Parliament which they elected have said we will leave, so leave we should.

Seems they go overturn all that....by this simple no confidence vote  & annex ….& followed by a G.E.????

[JAG]

1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said:

Here goes what's left of the 60p pound as the clamour for power reaches fever the army is looking a good choice right now if only on the streets to quell an impeding rebellion????   

Don't be silly. Much of the Army will be on block leave - it is the school holidays for the next month; it is the polo season so that rules the cavalry outI It is the cricket season so all the decent infantry regiments are not available, and the logisticians are all far too occupied with refurbishing the "Great Counter of No" in the stores. I believe it is raining now, and forecast to do so well into August, so that rules the RAF out, and I don''t think that the Royal Navy have any fuel (or sailors for that matter) left after sending their fancy new Large Grey Boat (LGB) to the Persian Gulf. I suppose that you could use the Royal Marines, but they are all looking forward to some bouts of naked mud wrestling in the Exe estuary - Corps tradition don't you know.

[sawadee1947]

14 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

The communist who would be King .. In you're dreams Jezza .. 

In which way a socialist democrat can be a communist Marxist? 

Please explain! 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

This post should be a pinned topic.

 

It states exactly where we are and should act as a preventative to the whining remainers who said "It's not fair......blah, blah".

 

With your permission JAG, I would like to post your erudite words on some other  local forums.

The games not yet over.

[Justgrazing]

23 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

In which way a socialist democrat can be a communist Marxist? 

Please explain! 

Corbyn is a Communist .. He supports and espouses idea's immersed in Communism .. As far as crack pot idea's go this one is up there with the best .. He knows he has no realistic chance of being voting in as P M in a General Election so the best hope he's got of getting into No10 to have a play on the levers of power is via a half arsed idea like this .. And the reality of the numbers required for this to even be considered viable are alot different to what's going on in his head .. 

As one journo' has already quoted

" If you think Corbyn is the answer then you are asking the wrong question " .. 

 

[Loiner]

Their Remainer moaning subterfuge and trickery haven’t worked. So now the leader of The illiberal anti Democratic Party is having a vigil with like minded wimmin. They’ll be holding hands and singing Kumbaya at Halloween.


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[RuamRudy]

10 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

Corbyn is a Communist .. He supports and espouses idea's immersed in Communism .. As far as crack pot idea's go this one is up there with the best .. He knows he has no realistic chance of being voting in as P M in a General Election so the best hope he's got of getting into No10 to have a play on the levers of power is via a half arsed idea like this .. And the reality of the numbers required for this to even be considered viable are alot different to what's going on in his head .. 

As one journo' has already quoted

" If you think Corbyn is the answer then you are asking the wrong question " .. 

 

My question would be 'how do we address the rampant inequality in the UK, where the elite have profited phenomenally thanks to the cruel and unnecessary austerity measures imposed by the government to funnel tax payers' money into their own offshore bank accounts?'. Is Boris Johnson the answer to that concern?

[RuamRudy]

3 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Their Remainer moaning subterfuge and trickery haven’t worked.

Unlike the actual subterfuge and trickery of the Vote Leave campaign, which did, sadly, work.

[ThaiBunny]

2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Unlike the actual subterfuge and trickery of the Vote Leave campaign, which did, sadly, work.

So it was a bog standard election campaign then?

[sawadee1947]

1 minute ago, Justgrazing said:

Corbyn is a Communist .

Seems to be a very poor answer laddie