UK faces food, fuel and drugs shortages in no-deal Brexit: Times, citing official documents

[Baerboxer]

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

All government propaganda. 

 

Links cut, pasted without any analysis of the veracity of the government statements despite the report of shortages at the head of this topic being based on a Government report. 

 

Oh come on CH, everyone knows you can trust everything Boris, the ERG, Farage and the Tory party say to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!! The Brexiters certainly do.

 

May tried to by-pass the British parliamentary constitution and failed. This Boris the liar and his weasel non elected bureaucrat right-wing anti-democracy adviser with fail too. Shortest reign as non elected PM ever!

[evadgib]

30 minutes ago, Becker said:

Why would I when all you achieved was making me yawn.

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(Byee!)

[welovesundaysatspace]

4 hours ago, ThaiBunny said:

It's equally possible to produce a list of bankers, retailers, industrialists, scientists, doctors, farmers, house builders, manufacturers all saying the opposite.

No, you won’t be able to produce an equally long list with equally reputable institutions and organisations. 

 

4 hours ago, ThaiBunny said:

The problem is that during the referendum the Governor of the Bank of England, no less, promised that the sky would fall in if the referendum passed. And here we are, three years later. 

Look where your currency is three years after, and how much money went already down the drain. Add to that how much your reputation has lacked since, and the investment decisions businesses have made. And Brexit hasn’t even happened yet...

 

2 hours ago, grumpy 4680 said:

    Lots more B/S from the remain brigade,

It’s an official government report. 

 

2 hours ago, grumpy 4680 said:

UK bosses have had 3 years to prepare, if they have not built new factories to become more self sufficient in various food items from Europe, or arranged for raw materials from other sources, THEN BLAME the bosses, not the government.

How exactly do you “built new factories to become more self sufficient in various food items from Europe” in three years? By the same

means you invent invisible border checks technology that doesn’t exist?

Please enlighten us. 

 

30 minutes ago, billd766 said:

The main problem with not having a plan in place can be fairly laid at the feet of Teresa May and Philip Hammond, neither of whom had any intention of formally exiting the EU.

May’s government and Hammond’s office threw 4bn at no-deal planning; that’s twice the amount the current Brexiteer government added. And the main problem with not having a plan in place is still that the plan was rejected by parliament three times.

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

I b'aint an e-communist but i'd have thought the answer was obvious...

 

Great example of Brexiter - "blame anyone or anything but the obvious truth" syndrome.

 

 

[evadgib]

8 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Great example of Brexiter - "blame anyone or anything but the obvious truth" syndrome.

Who funded Miller & how was her case heard so quickly & given wall to wall blanket coverage by MSM before she'd even licked the stamp?

(Summink aint right and i don't fancy waiting 30 years to find out why).

[Jip99]

5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Great example of Brexiter - "blame anyone or anything but the obvious truth" syndrome.

 

 

 

 

Brexiteer.

 

If you are continuing to only throw out insults do try and get the title right. Bloody remoaners.....

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 minute ago, evadgib said:

Who funded Miller & how was her case heard so quickly & given wall to wall blanket coverage by MSM before she'd even licked the stamp?

I’m pretty sure you have some conspiracy theory blogs explaining all that. Did you consider therapy for your paranoia? 

[puipuitom]

At least, when Boris visits Merkel and Macron, he can be sure for a few details:

a) thanks to the sinking of the GBP from around € 1,40 till now €1,085, a lot of EU import duty will not harm the British competiviness… as .. production costs already sunk with a 25 %

b) As the British did that before ( when invited to the €uro, the value of the GBP was € 1,70), and nearly no revolt, the British can sink their currency further, maybe to € 0,80, so.. who is afraid for the EU import duty ?

c) Impossible to make the British afraid for any visa requirements when visiting the EU as... many Labour voters cannot afford a trip abroad seen the lower pound, And for these Labour voters.. no Tory cares.

d) The British will return to real British virtues like: British lukewarm ale to replace EU wines, home grown coleslaw and cabbage to replace Spanish vegetables, and mash potatoes instead of Italian spaghetti.

e) The British will stop to burden the environment with ( air + reefer) shipments of fresh foods from far overseas  to have many fruits and vegetables available ( simply because they cannot afford it anymore, see also: professor Tim Lang of City University in The Lancet: https://www.sustainweb.org/news/aug19_tim_lang_brexit_food_planning/ )  

[puipuitom]

34 minutes ago, candide said:

How would tariffs imposed on UK exports by the EU reduce imports of these products by the UK?

Maybe a question of normal reading: it's the IMPORT DUTY into the EU from "third countries with no deal", like the UK from 1 Nov 2019 onwards. 

Maybe when these EU import duties fall away when the UK is no longer an EU member state? What import duties the UK will impose.. their problem.

So, where your twist comes from ? ?

[zorrow424]

53 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Maybe a question of normal reading: it's the IMPORT DUTY into the EU from "third countries with no deal", like the UK from 1 Nov 2019 onwards. 

Maybe when these EU import duties fall away when the UK is no longer an EU member state? What import duties the UK will impose.. their problem.

So, where your twist comes from ? ?

Ha ha   so what?   UK got what it wanted,could not give a toss on currency or GDP.     You will worry yourself into early grave,  its OK  really is,no panic,nothing   never will either   do not worry yourself  lol

[SteveB2]

Oh my god - there's going to be some temporary food, fuel and drugs shortages...

 

Well, I guess we better ignore the referendum result and stay in the EU?

 

No! What absolute BLX. Get a grip of yourselves. This project fear propaganda blx becoming completely nonsensical. ????

[The Old Bull]

I lived half my life before the EU. The benefits outweigh any regulations brought in by do gooders. They will still exist to annoy you and the government will still bring in goat shaggers and canibals.

[zorrow424]

 

[baboon]

15 minutes ago, The Old Bull said:

I lived half my life before the EU. The benefits outweigh any regulations brought in by do gooders. They will still exist to annoy you and the government will still bring in goat shaggers and canibals.

You are really 92 years of age? Respect.

[evadgib]

13 hours ago, evadgib said:

The current govt has taken to dismantling misleading press reports. I haven't bothered to look at this one in detail but if it's misleading I expect the trend to continue.

Here's an example:

Letter to The Times from Emma Howard Boyd, Chair of Environment Agency

[elliss]

11 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

Is it true that we wont have electricity after Brexit and water will be rationed?
Oh God i just heard the production of marmite is to be stopped.

Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

 

          France currently  supplies  electricity  into the UK.  much more electricity,  than UK power stations can generate .

             Hope the Frence pull the plug out .

              UK deserves what it voted for.  Project Fact..

 

 

 

[evadgib]

4 minutes ago, elliss said:

 

          France currently  supplies  electricity  into the UK.  more than the UK power stations  can generate .

             Hope they pull , the plug out .

              UK deserves what it voted for.  Project Fact..

Like Putin did during the big freeze? What would they gain by such folly?

[baboon]

2 hours ago, puipuitom said:

At least, when Boris visits Merkel and Macron, he can be sure for a few details:

a) thanks to the sinking of the GBP from around € 1,40 till now €1,085, a lot of EU import duty will not harm the British competiviness… as .. production costs already sunk with a 25 %

b) As the British did that before ( when invited to the €uro, the value of the GBP was € 1,70), and nearly no revolt, the British can sink their currency further, maybe to € 0,80, so.. who is afraid for the EU import duty ?

c) Impossible to make the British afraid for any visa requirements when visiting the EU as... many Labour voters cannot afford a trip abroad seen the lower pound, And for these Labour voters.. no Tory cares.

d) The British will return to real British virtues like: British lukewarm ale to replace EU wines, home grown coleslaw and cabbage to replace Spanish vegetables, and mash potatoes instead of Italian spaghetti.

e) The British will stop to burden the environment with ( air + reefer) shipments of fresh foods from far overseas  to have many fruits and vegetables available ( simply because they cannot afford it anymore, see also: professor Tim Lang of City University in The Lancet: https://www.sustainweb.org/news/aug19_tim_lang_brexit_food_planning/ )  

And the Brexiters will continue to blame it all on the EU. It will probably work, too, as the chief proponents sun themselves abroad with the mountains of cash they made by shorting the UK, while their followers scratch their heads but will never admit to having been conned.

What a bloody shambles.

[Stupooey]

2 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Brexiteer.

 

If you are continuing to only throw out insults do try and get the title right. Bloody remoaners.....

Brexiter...Brexiteer...what's the difference? Surely they both mean 'person in favour of Brexit', so why do you and your two toadies consider this to be an insult?

An insult is something on the lines of the pathetic, mindless, done-to-death 'remoaner'. Perhaps someone thought it funny the first time.

[baboon]

5 minutes ago, Stupooey said:

Brexiter...Brexiteer...what's the difference? Surely they both mean 'person in favour of Brexit', so why do you and your two toadies consider this to be an insult?

An insult is something on the lines of the pathetic, mindless, done-to-death 'remoaner'. Perhaps someone thought it funny the first time.

Let us not forget 'Traitors' and 'Enemies of The People'. 

But this is where we are now. No compromise. No pausing for thought. Just two camps actively encouraged to tear each other apart while scum profit handsomely from our collective misery.

[Jip99]

22 minutes ago, Stupooey said:

Brexiter...Brexiteer...what's the difference? Surely they both mean 'person in favour of Brexit', so why do you and your two toadies consider this to be an insult?

An insult is something on the lines of the pathetic, mindless, done-to-death 'remoaner'. Perhaps someone thought it funny the first time.

 

 

Calm down...you are making yourself look stupid.

[brianthainess]

Fake news

[Orange sky]

59 minutes ago, baboon said:

And the Brexiters will continue to blame it all on the EU. It will probably work, too, as the chief proponents sun themselves abroad with the mountains of cash they made by shorting the UK, while their followers scratch their heads but will never admit to having been conned.

What a bloody shambles.

They do just that. It's kind of funny how Brexitism has become a religion for some of their followers. 

 

The problem of the religions is that it's all feel and not a lot of thinking profoundly what is actually happening. 

 

Brexiteers ideology of following the leader of empty of content speaker will eventually end up to living in a void. 

 

[3NUMBAS]

an old paper leaked by a sacked remainer minister trying to throw spanner in works..there maybe some bumps in the road says gove which is to be expected if uk escapes the 4th reich just as it was when uk escaped the 3rd reich..

[Jip99]

6 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

an old paper leaked by a sacked remainer minister trying to throw spanner in works..there maybe some bumps in the road says gove which is to be expected if uk escapes the 4th reich just as it was when uk escaped the 3rd reich..

 

 

I doubt Churchill had to contend with as many quislings as Boris has.

[Orange sky]

2 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

an old paper leaked by a sacked remainer minister trying to throw spanner in works..there maybe some bumps in the road says gove which is to be expected if uk escapes the 4th reich just as it was when uk escaped the 3rd reich..

Are you saying UK government should not be prepared to what is possible or likely to happen in the near future?

 

I don't think the modern and forward looking governments should simply wait for disaster to happen and only then say that boats should use their propellers to push water down the river. 

 

Modern, western government are expected to think a few steps forward to avoid problems, which are about to happen. 

 

But hey, you talk about 4th reich and all. 

[elliss]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

Like Putin did during the big freeze? What would they gain by such folly?

 

 Fyi , Putin is still in power . 

[candide]

7 hours ago, puipuitom said:

Maybe a question of normal reading: it's the IMPORT DUTY into the EU from "third countries with no deal", like the UK from 1 Nov 2019 onwards. 

Maybe when these EU import duties fall away when the UK is no longer an EU member state? What import duties the UK will impose.. their problem.

So, where your twist comes from ? ?

My twist comes from the post I replied to, which obviously you did not read.

Why would import taxes imposed by the EU on imports from the UK have any impact on UK citizens' health? It is completely incoherent. Thank you for supporting my point.

[Bluespunk]

6 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Fake news

Brexit: No-deal dossier shows worst-case scenario - Gove https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49388402

 

 

[Stupooey]

7 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Calm down...you are making yourself look stupid.

You consider 'Brexiteer' (or 'Brexiter') to be an insult to you.

 

I see 'Remoaner' as an insult to me.

 

I'm afraid I can't agree with you as to who is being made to look stupid.