A whole packet of MSG in the Som Tam? Trader explains why

[DPKANKAN]

7 hours ago, drbeach said:

Well then Thais have no taste. If you have to use MSG to enhance the flavor of what you're making then you must be a terrible chef.

 

One can season food plenty with nam pla or even just good ol salt and pepper.

Don't forget the sugar as well!!!555

[sammieuk1]

With all this MSG do they need a doctor doctor or a UFO????

[RickG16]

I expect the answer will be a resounding yes.... but can anyone confirm that there is MSG in Mama noodles (the packets not the pots).

 

Cheers 

[DrTuner]

12 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

I expect the answer will be a resounding yes.... but can anyone confirm that there is MSG in Mama noodles (the packets not the pots).

 

Cheers 

https://importfood.com/products/thai-noodles-rice/item/mama-brand-instant-tom-yum-noodles

 

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2.1 oz per packet. Ingredients: wheat flour, palm oil, salt, sugar, msg, droed red chilli, chilli powder, fish sauce, shrimp powder, lemongrass, kaffir lime leaves, dried leek, acidity regulators (sodium bicarbonate, potassium carbonate), thickener (cellulose gum), soy sauce, disodium 5, artificial lemon flavor.

 

A litany of ingredients also known as "instant death in a pack, just add water".

 

MSG has E code E621.

 

Here's it straight form the horse's mouth: https://www.mama.co.th/en/products-domestic-brand-list/17/15/Ramen

Edited September 3, 2019 by DrTuner

[RickG16]

5 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

https://importfood.com/products/thai-noodles-rice/item/mama-brand-instant-tom-yum-noodles

 

 

A litany of ingredients also known as "instant death in a pack, just add water".

 

MSG has E code E621.

 

Here's it straight form the horse's mouth: https://www.mama.co.th/en/products-domestic-brand-list/17/15/Ramen

I've been getting more into them recently for some reason. Just opened a multi pack of 10. I might have one last ceremonial bowl tomorrow and chuck the rest. 

[DrTuner]

1 minute ago, RickG16 said:

I've been getting more into them recently for some reason. Just opened a multi pack of 10. I might have one last ceremonial bowl tomorrow and chuck the rest. 

My dog likes to eat the dry noodles. Go figure. It's a Thai dog.

[EricTh]

Thai people put MSG into everything. They are very ignorant of the fact that some people are allergic to it and it's a neurotoxin poison.

 

When I asked whether there is a 'no MSG' Mama noodles, they looked at me in a strange way.

 

They just know that it is 'aroi'.

Edited September 3, 2019 by EricTh

[Isaanbiker]

7 hours ago, timendres said:

I love MSG. But it makes my hands shake and my tongue tingle, so I have to find a place to put them until the effects wear off. Win win.

 I hate MSG and I hate food that doesn't taste good from the beginning. 

[EricTh]

8 hours ago, timendres said:

I love MSG. But it makes my hands shake and my tongue tingle, so I have to find a place to put them until the effects wear off. Win win.

It's a sign that it is harmful to your body. Your body needs to work hard by asking you to drink water to flush it out of your system. 

 

Google MSG poisoning.

[EricTh]

5 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

You lot do know that the MSG myth has been debunked, right?

 

https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/msg-myth-versus-science/

Debunked by those manufacturers of Ajinomoto and their sellers.

 

I and some of my friends get severe migraine after taking MSG so how can that be a myth?

 

[Damrongsak]

9 hours ago, rkidlad said:

So does not cleaning plates and utensils properly, not washing your hands and not cooking meat long enough. 

...

That's not so much to save time as it is to give it that down-home flavor. 

[EricTh]

36 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

I expect the answer will be a resounding yes.... but can anyone confirm that there is MSG in Mama noodles (the packets not the pots).

 

Cheers 

Yes, there is MSG in Mama noodles. I can read the Thai script on its label which is one of the first thing I need to read.

 

It's better to buy those noodles without any seasoning packets although you have to do your own seasoning which can be quite troublesome.

You might try some of the Korean or Japanese noodle brands, some of those specifically say 'NO MSG' in English but they cost much more.

Edited September 3, 2019 by EricTh

[madmen]

Thai food =Super unhealthy food! I read a Post here a few years back about a poster ordering a black coffee no sugar and watched the Thai put a teaspoon of a powder in it.

 

When he asked what it was ...MSG! amazing Thailand

Edited September 3, 2019 by madmen

[DannyCarlton]

2 hours ago, Yinn said:

The Thai food at Nahm not have enough MSG.

My wife doesn't make som tam, she makes the real thing, tam mahoon. No MSG. She does occasionally use a small amount of MSG in some dishes but not tam mahoon. When I first came to Thailand, she was the chef in a very succesful Thai/Issan restaurant in Pattaya. Her food is wonderful, far better than Nahm.

 

I can't tell you exactly what goes into her Tam Mahoon because the main ingredient is sent by her family in Nong Khai. Some liquid in a bottle. Tastes great though, far better than boring Thai som tam.

[mok199]

7 hours ago, Vacuum said:

Both of them are in fact taste enhancers

Is that the same as a stimulus package .

[Yinn]

6 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

My wife doesn't make som tam, she makes the real thing, tam mahoon. No MSG. She does occasionally use a small amount of MSG in some dishes but not tam mahoon. When I first came to Thailand, she was the chef in a very succesful Thai/Issan restaurant in Pattaya. Her food is wonderful, far better than Nahm.

 

I can't tell you exactly what goes into her Tam Mahoon because the main ingredient is sent by her family in Nong Khai. Some liquid in a bottle. Tastes great though, far better than boring Thai som tam.

Mahoon? Or “Bukhung”

[DannyCarlton]

Just now, Yinn said:

Mahoon? Or “Bukhung”

Yes you are right, the way my wife sas it sounds more like mahoon but it is Bukhung.

[wxyz1]

9 hours ago, drbeach said:

Although I like street food, all the more reason to avoid street vendors and hole in the wall restaurants and move toward chain restaurants such as Sizzler and Fuji located in shopping malls that declare themselves to be MSG free.

It's because of the MSG in the salad at Sizzler that makes you feel thirsty. I avoid Sizzler and MK as much as possible. I always ask the street vendors and waiter/waitress at the hole in the wall restaurants NOT to put MSG in my food. Most of them don't. There's no chance of doing that at the big chain restaurants.

[Sydebolle]

I'm not a specialist but why is the stuff forbidden in Europe? There are milligrammes in certain spice mixtures - that's it! 

Grannie should stick to the traditional way of cooking, like her Grannie did it when Phong Chuu Rot (MSG) was not invented yet - me thinks ???? 

The clip (truncated version from public domain) would be attached hereto for your viewing or culinary pleasure ......... 

 

[Damrongsak]

I learned to order food my way (in Thai) years ago, as I'm vegetarian.  No sugar, no fish sauce or shrimp paste (etc.), no MSG.  I did have one young cook put ganja in my stir-fried vegetables, but he told me as he served it.  I didn't believe it at first.  Sure enough ...  555

 

Several times out in the boondocks with farmers, my lunch was a ball of sticky rice, some salt and some hot peppers.  Maybe some Pak Boong (water morning glory) or weeds from the forest (like weird ferns). They liked me because I was cheap to feed.

[tgw]

Does anyone know if a double-blind study has been done about "MSG allergy" ?

[tgw]

nevermind, found it:

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researchers who did double-blind, placebo-controlled studies, considered the gold-standard in research methodology, were never been able to replicate CRS. One such well-respected study that tested people who identified themselves as sensitive to MSG, found no significant differences in the prevalence of responses between groups taking the placebo or the MSG. (And if you were wondering about the title of this blog, this is the connection: the placebo effect among those who believe they have a particular sensitivity is a very powerful thing. That’s why it’s so important to conduct studies in a blinded manner. It’s the only way to determine if the sensitivity is real.)

A larger review of the research about purported sensitivity to MSG found some sensitivity when extremely large doses of MSG were given but even then there was no consistency. Researchers found no reactions to MSG when it was given with food, which is how people would typically have MSG.

Why would people? All the attention on MSG may have something to do with why people think they have a sensitivity to it but really don’t. Research has found that people with “unconfirmed” reactions to foods were “influenced by the popular news media.”

https://msgdish.com/msg-and-the-placebo-effect/

 

[faraday]

3 hours ago, tgw said:

Does anyone know if a double-blind study has been done about "MSG allergy" ?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5938543/

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5938543/

[BEngBKK]

Thais always tell me: If it taste good, it is good for you...

 

TIT so they must be right...right?

 

 

[mmushr00m]

I remember once the Mrs ordered a soup, no msg, not too much salt, no sugar..the guy just stared at her and said I don't know how to do it.

Lol

[EricTh]

5 hours ago, tgw said:

nevermind, found it:

https://msgdish.com/msg-and-the-placebo-effect/

 

 

Like I have said many times, a lot of these 'studies' are paid by Ajinomoto and their distributors. MSG is big business for them so they don't want to lose their profit.

 

The real double-blind studies is done by consumers themselves which have felt the effects of MSG like migraine, thirst, weakness etc.

 

It's a sign your body tells you that the food that you're taking is harmful. 

 

https://wakeupandlive1.wordpress.com/2013/09/24/avoid-being-secretly-poisoned-by-msg/

 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2019 by EricTh

[EricTh]

12 minutes ago, mmushr00m said:

I remember once the Mrs ordered a soup, no msg, not too much salt, no sugar..the guy just stared at her and said I don't know how to do it.

Lol

 

It would be tasteless then. LOL

 

 

 

[overherebc]

6 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

I learned to order food my way (in Thai) years ago, as I'm vegetarian.  No sugar, no fish sauce or shrimp paste (etc.), no MSG.  I did have one young cook put ganja in my stir-fried vegetables, but he told me as he served it.  I didn't believe it at first.  Sure enough ...  555

 

Several times out in the boondocks with farmers, my lunch was a ball of sticky rice, some salt and some hot peppers.  Maybe some Pak Boong (water morning glory) or weeds from the forest (like weird ferns). They liked me because I was cheap to feed.

Sounds ok but I prefer food.

[Damrongsak]

33 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Sounds ok but I prefer food.

They did have some eye candy on the dessert menu... the little waitresses. 

[overherebc]

8 minutes ago, Damrongsak said:

They did have some eye candy on the dessert menu... the little waitresses. 

Candy's dandy but sex doesn't rot your teeth.