SURVEY: DUI laws -- Strict enough or is more needed?

[Scott]

Some time ago,  Thailand introduced new traffic laws.   The change includes a point system which calls for from 1 to 4 points for DUI.   Which of the following best describes your opinion on DUI punishment in Thailand?

Please feel free to leave a comment.

 

For further reading:

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1119540-new-traffic-laws-explained-dui-could-be-2-points-or-as-much-as-4/

[loong]

Your poll should include automatic loss of licence for a time and jail for 2nd offence.

[PatOngo]

Up to them!

[Don Mega]

The old system was more than adequate.

[djayz]

Laws are pointless if:

1) they're not strictly enforced, 

2) everybody, irrespective of status and rank, isn't treated equally and 3) the punishment doesn't fit the crime. 

 

[Sir Dude]

"... automatic loss of license ..." for that even bother to get one.

[Srikcir]

Must have strict enforcement if strict punishments are going to work.

[holy cow cm]

Oh come on with these ridiculous polls. Most accidents are not DUI related on the norm. If you want to address someone relevant, then focus on drivers who serve the public. Otherwise boring issue. 

[HHTel]

The survey is meaningless.  Firstly, the law has to be enforced which it isn't.

[RandG]

For the majority of traffic "issues" there are adequate laws in place.  What is necessary is a continuous and consistent enforcement of those laws, with appropriate penalties that are actually a deterrent. 

[natway09]

I did not vote as the main criteria for this discussion is that the laws are fine but not enough being done to enforce all year, not just on holidays.

 More graphic (blood & guts) movies should be shown by the licencing authorities at the presentations to show the carnage of the results of drinking & driving

[transam]

No good altering something because it didn't work when the reason it didn't work was very little daily police presence..The same reason folk don't wear a crash hat, or children going to school on m/cycles...

 

To me, in LOS, nobody cares about anything until some one ends up in a box. Then the money pointing finger comes out...

[Blue Muton]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

No good altering something because it didn't work when the reason it didn't work was very little daily police presence..The same reason folk don't wear a crash hat, or children going to school on m/cycles...

 

To me, in LOS, nobody cares about anything until some one ends up in a box. Then the money pointing finger comes out...

......but then they believe that they jump out of their box so they can carry on regardless in their next life.

[GalaxyMan]

For a simple DUI, no accident, no injuries/fatalities, loss of license for a minimum of a year and at least a month in jail. There needs to be a deterrent. Since approximately 25% of Thais drive without a license anyway, the jail term is needed. For an accident resulting in serious injury and/or death, permanent loss of license and at least a year in jail, if not longer. I have zero patience or tolerance for this issue, having lost friends to drunk drivers.

[Don Mega]

2 minutes ago, GalaxyMan said:

For a simple DUI, no accident, no injuries/fatalities, loss of license for a minimum of a year and at least a month in jail. There needs to be a deterrent. Since approximately 25% of Thais drive without a license anyway, the jail term is needed. For an accident resulting in serious injury and/or death, permanent loss of license and at least a year in jail, if not longer. I have zero patience or tolerance for this issue, having lost friends to drunk drivers.

hahahahaha, get less than that back in Aus and they are anal about <deleted> like this !!

[GalaxyMan]

2 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

hahahahaha, get less than that back in Aus and they are anal about <deleted> like this !!

Hardly a surprise from a country that has getting drunk as the national pasttime. ????

[Don Mega]

1 minute ago, GalaxyMan said:

Hardly a surprise from a country that has getting drunk as the national pasttime. ????

not for a long time, booze buses and lock out laws has put a damper on drinking.

 

That plus its too damn expensive.

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, loong said:

Your poll should include automatic loss of licence for a time and jail for 2nd offence.

No! Jail time, loss of licence, and ban for first offence.

[transam]

1 minute ago, possum1931 said:

No! Jail time, loss of licence, and ban for first offence.

A tea total-er would say that....????

[NoshowJones]

Just now, transam said:

A tea total-er would say that....????

Of course. ????

[PatOngo]

5 hours ago, HHTel said:

The survey is meaningless.  Firstly, the law has to be enforced which it isn't.

About as meaningless as Thai law enforcement!

[emptypockets]

I was in Brazil in 2005. Low level drink driving was points only. Hurt someone however and you are in deep doo doo.

[Artisi]

Useless poll, the question should be, is there sufficient enforcement of the existing DUI laws - it's not rocket science to see where the problem is, further or increased penalties is just peeing into the wind. 

 

 

[dcnx]

Everything is fine. The 20 minutes that the police spare to check for drinks is plenty.

[soistalker]

In the US, a DUI will end up costing you about $15,000, not including tine missed from work. It is a big deterrent. In thaialnd, I have seen videos of police laughing and joking with drunk drivwes too messed up to walk. They always let them go. You see, whilst there are hefty fines un the US, there is big tea money in Thailand.

[Aj Mick]

Current DUI penalties are adequate...... enforcement is where the problem lies. Setting up checkpoints (usually at well known locations), where miscreants are expected to obligingly stop and pay over the prescribed fee for their minor offence is all but ineffective. Policing moving offences, and breath testing suspected drunks when encountered would be way more potent.

[richard_smith237]

I also believe more should be done to alter the social perception of drink driving. 

 

In General Thai’s know its wrong, but don’t really care. There needs to be a nation wide cultural shift towards an attitude which those who drink and drive are looked down upon, considered anti-social and selfish. 

 

For the moment, friends say nothing to their other friends who drink drive. I have a hard time with my Thai friends for berating them for drink driving, I regularly socialise with a good group of Thai friends, one of whom I’ve been very close with for 20 years (I am the only one who doesn’t drink and drive, I berate them, the know, but don’t really care - they all think they drive ok when drunk and to be honest they do, but they all admit that they have had an accident when drunk which kind paints a different picture).