U.S. House to launch Trump impeachment inquiry over Ukraine controversy

[Tippaporn]

40 minutes ago, riclag said:

 The left,dems and  liberal media mantra, Impeach Mr. Trump morning, noon and night, since 2015 . I hope all independent swing voters are watching! Thanks for sharing 

The hypocrisy of the Dems is absolutely astounding.  Yeah, thanks for sharing, riclag.

[chokrai]

https://www.scribd.com/document/427409665/Ukraine-Call-Transcript#from_embed

[chokrai]

So you think they can impeach him for that?  Of course you do.

[Becker]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

Think about it, Becker.  Why are so many "crimes" perpetrated by wealthy and powerful personages never investigated?  It ain't hard to figure out.

QAnon?

[jcsmith]

So this is the transcript that they willingly released. And boy is it damning.

[Tippaporn]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

Trump’s fear of Biden driving him to commit impeachable crimes.

 

Chomper, do you have access to Trump's thoughts?  Where in the world do you come up with such an outlandish assertion that Trump is fearful?  You've made it up from whole cloth.  Why?  Why do people decide to just make things up?

 

And your other assertion that Trump has been driven to commit an impeachable crime is also false.  All of the facts are not in yet you talk as if it were fact that Trump is guilty of the accusation made against him.  Again, why?  What compels people to treat speculation as fact and then propagate it as fact to others?

Chomper, you reacted to my post with a laugh but no reply.  What am I to make of it?  I can only conclude that you didn't reply because you have no way to explain yourself.

[chokrai]

2 minutes ago, jcsmith said:

So this is the transcript that they willingly released. And boy is it damning.

President going after corruption is damning? So just because Biden is a Dem candidate he gets a pass? The Dems spent 2 years going after Trump non stop. I hope they do impeach it will be a great show.

[BestB]

2 minutes ago, chokrai said:

President going after corruption is damning? So just because Biden is a Dem candidate he gets a pass? The Dems spent 2 years going after Trump non stop. I hope they do impeach it will be a great show.

I just read the transcript and yes i am not an expert on American constitution, but did not really see anything so damning, on the other hand, if Trump accusations are true, perhaps there should be a parallel investigation into Biden as well?

 

If that happens and turns out to be true, then the show will really kick off 

[Tippaporn]

12 minutes ago, Becker said:

QAnon?

Interesting reply, Becker, but to be honest I don't follow.  Care to elaborate?

[Jingthing]

Jingthing, you give us the Washington Post?  Are you seriously telling us that that is your source of trusted information?  The Post has shown itself to be so disreputable to the point that it is beyond salvation.  Do you realize that the MSM has so thoroughly discredited itself that it beggars belief that anyone would be willing to read anything they write?

No. It's the best source there is for such matters. It was for Watergate as well.

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[4675636b596f75]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump flat out admitted his crimes.

 

Doh!

Then you can give me a citation to a reputable news source that states this, right?

 

Of course you can't.

[4675636b596f75]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

It takes an investigation to collect hard evidence of a crime that would stand up in court.  It's not easy.  If hard evidence does surface then we might see one.

 

Becker, where is your evidence to your assertion?  You cannot legitimately talk as though it were fact.  Why do you and others continue to conflate an accusation with fact? 

They don't know any better.  Would you hit a dog for crapping on the carpet if you didn't train the dog correctly?

[Tippaporn]

44 minutes ago, chokrai said:

https://www.scribd.com/document/427409665/Ukraine-Call-Transcript#from_embed

chokrai, thanks for posting the nothing burger.  

[sirineou]

4 minutes ago, riclag said:

bidens name is mentioned 5 times in this story, check it out! 

The title of this Thread is: "U.S. House to launch Trump impeachment inquiry over Ukraine controversy "

Biden's name is mentioned as the victim, the story we are all reacting too is the alleged accusation on trump.  If you or trump  believe and have evidence that Biden has committed a crime, you should start a thread and please forward such information to the proper authorities and have him investigated also.  

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[sirineou]

2 hours ago, chokrai said:

We dont play that game anymore, you dish it out we dish it back. Get used to it.

But you do play games,

If these accusations disturb  you your side should be the one demanding an investigation if not for anything else so that your heroes "good" name is cleared,instead of trying to change the subject.  

[riclag]

23 minutes ago, sirineou said:

The title of this Thread is: "U.S. House to launch Trump impeachment inquiry over Ukraine controversy "

Biden's name is mentioned as the victim, the story we are all reacting too is the alleged accusation on trump.  If you or trump  believe and have evidence that Biden has committed a crime, you should start a thread and please forward such information to the proper authorities and have him investigated also.  

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 A line from the story"The controversy came to light after a whistleblower from within the U.S. intelligence community lodged a complaint with an internal watchdog about Trump's conversation with Zelenskiy"

 Nonsense, The conversation included the bidens! 

[Scott]

Troll posts and replies removed.   Continued off-topic deflection and personal commentary will result in suspensions.  

 

Please, stay on topic.  

 

[sirineou]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

 A line from the story"The controversy came to light after a whistleblower from within the U.S. intelligence community lodged a complaint with an internal watchdog about Trump's conversation with Zelenskiy"

 Nonsense, The conversation included the bidens! 

Yes but it is the conversation, and the request that is the issue, not the Bibens. If trump had concerns regarding the Bidens we have the proper authorities here in the US to investigate them , thank you very much,  trump did not need to blackmail  (if indeed that's what he did) a foreign government into investigating his political opponent.

[Jingthing]

Transcript is out. It is DAMNING.

"trump" to Ukraine president.

Do me a favor and dig up dirt on my major challenger.

Mafia culture request. Not surprising from his background.

That is not the country's business.

That is the corrupt business of a corrupt president.

The impeachment investigation will seriously  be heating up now. 

 

[Jingthing]

Keep in mind only an investigation has started. There still needs to be a full vote in the house to formally obtain more powerful impeachment level subpoena powers towards reluctant and white house blocked witnesses. I will make another prediction. Based on the damning transcript that's where we are headed, but I don't know when. 

[Cryingdick]

Looks like another epic fail for the dems. The markets are liking it. Looks like there will be an  election. I don't understand why the dems are so afraid of an election when you look at the polls.

[riclag]

 The real quote below ,"not dig up dirt on my major challenger"  

 

"I would like for you to do us a favor though cause our country has been through a lot. I would like for you to find out what happen with this whole situation with Ukraine.

What ever you can do it is very importantant  that you do it if that's possible"

https://www.scribd.com/document/427409665/Ukraine-Call-Transcript#from_embed

 

 

 

[Opl]

'It might be the most important phone call of Donald Trump’s presidency. "

Below is our line-by-line analysis of the released memorandum, which shows a freewheeling Trump by turns buttering up his interlocutor, passing along unverified and dubious allegations about Biden and Democrats, and cajoling the Ukrainian leader into doing him a “favor.”

[candide]

Quote from the serial liar in the memo

The US president is quoted as saying in the call: "I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair.

"A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved."

 

That's about the guy of whom the EU, the IMF, the USA and the Ukrainian parliament wanted to get rid because he was not fighting corruption! ????

[bendejo]

8 hours ago, Becker said:

BTW, you don't get to tell anyone on this forum to close his "gob", understand?

I think they're actually pretty funny when they pull stuff like that.  A few weeks back one of them who didn't like the way the discussion was going wrote "we should be talking about something else."  Good for a laugh when they say it outright, not so funny when they improvise rationalizations.

 

For the reading impaired: this incident is about DT's phone conversation with the Ukraine leader.  It is not about Biden. 

 

 

[Becker]

3 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Interesting reply, Becker, but to be honest I don't follow.  Care to elaborate?

If you don't follow then how could it possibly be interesting?

[bendejo]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

Quote from the serial liar in the memo

The US president is quoted as saying in the call: "I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair.

"A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved."

 

For someone who lies so much you'd expect him to be better at it, no?

There should be a google translate for con artist-speak.

prosecutor who was very good = someone I like

A lot of people are talking = nobody but me

very bad people involved = people I don't like

 

"Perfect conversation" wins phrase of the day, but that was days ago.

 

 

[Becker]

2 minutes ago, bendejo said:

For someone who lies so much you'd expect him to be better at it, no?

Well, to be fair he isn't very bright.

Case in point is the just released memo.

It reads like a bad mob movie script.

[bendejo]

4 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

you give us the Washington Post?  Are you seriously telling us that that is your source of trusted information?  The Post has shown itself to be so disreputable to the point that it is beyond salvation.  Do you realize that the MSM has so thoroughly discredited itself that it beggars belief that anyone would be willing to read anything they write?

Thanks for the info!  From now on it's only Fox News and Newsmax for me.

Can you believe there were people who actually believed that Watergate stuff that WaPo used to print?

 

Really though, I've heard people on Fox say stuff like "NY Times?  You're going to believe them?" and then within minutes same person tries to validate something by saying it was published in the NYT.  Don't these people feel shame for making such fools of themselves in broadcasts being sent out into the world?  Or do they have no respect for the intelligence of the Republican voter?

 

 

[candide]

30 minutes ago, bendejo said:

For someone who lies so much you'd expect him to be better at it, no?

There should be a google translate for con artist-speak.

prosecutor who was very good = someone I like

A lot of people are talking = nobody but me

very bad people involved = people I don't like

 

"Perfect conversation" wins phrase of the day, but that was days ago.

 

 

Obviously, during this call, one guy was smarter than the other and it was not Trump. He was really pathetic.