ThaiFelix Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 2 hours ago, BobBKK said: Shows he knows NOTHING about Thailand Exactly. Seems he needed a lesson in Thai vocab before making that speech. For example a "crackdown" means everybody sounds serious but all is forgotten after a week ie wearing helmets, "enforcing" means the law has been written but months of thought needs to be done about the pros and cons of the decision before the new law is shelved ie riding in the back of pick-ups or the OA health insurance requirement, "Investigating" means endless committee meetings, lunches, pretties, big talk, dividing of the cake and at least two or three years duration before a vague outcome is produced. "moving forward" means all of the above but drawn out over several decades or till the trough is bare. "Democracy" means doing as you are told and being without any say at all in what your government deems is "best for the people". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I have decided that 1) I or they, live in a different 'Thailand' or 2) They can't see what's going on due to all that smoke being blown you know where. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Being politically correct to keep a USA foot in the Thailand door against the Chinese big foot taking up all the space. And in reality no one can say anything about the end results of the election even if they don't add up to be white as the driven snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knee Jerk Reaction Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 15 hours ago, olfu said: Yes, Thailand is a democracy and so is any country who like empty talking like USA, North Korea, Vietnam etc. And before anything I recommend research democracy as it originated in Greece. The PM certainly isn't a general with the democratic stature, statesmanship and philanthropy of Pericles. The gulf between the two is infinite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Of course it's on the path to democracy. Unfortunately its stuck in reverse gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, holy cow cm said: Being politically correct to keep a USA foot in the Thailand door against the Chinese big foot taking up all the space. And in reality no one can say anything about the end results of the election even if they don't add up to be white as the driven snow. If this is what is going on, it's a mistake. The US should be taking the initiative and playing Vietnam off against Thailand. Let the Thais get China. Then the US will simply move everything, diplomatically, politically, and economically to Vietnam. Might even include a bilateral free trade deal with Vietnam that simultaneously erects US tariffs on Thailand that correspond to Thai tariffs on US goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 20 hours ago, Artisi said: Neither do the majority of Thai's. No, none of the diplomatic corps or Thai people. Just the wise enlightened TVF posters who are all knowing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, zydeco said: If this is what is going on, it's a mistake. The US should be taking the initiative and playing Vietnam off against Thailand. Let the Thais get China. Then the US will simply move everything, diplomatically, politically, and economically to Vietnam. Might even include a bilateral free trade deal with Vietnam that simultaneously erects US tariffs on Thailand that correspond to Thai tariffs on US goods. I fully disagree with you. It is like a manipulative chess game and China is on everyone's ankles even VN. And of course that is what is going on. And of course as usual Thailand is trying to play both sides like the Victor Victoria scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Baerboxer said: No, none of the diplomatic corps or Thai people. Just the wise enlightened TVF posters who are all knowing! Think you have been around long enough to read between the lines of my comment even if it was only one line ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30la Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 What kind of democracy? It always depends on the point of view! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNKDES1 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 The Democracy Index disagrees. Thailand is branded a "hybrid regime" and has declined since 2014. Sent from my SM-N950F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, brucec64 said: The Democracy Index disagrees. Thailand is branded a "hybrid regime" and has declined since 2014. Sent from my SM-N950F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app indeed, it's the US envoy's job to say nice things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 23 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Obviously, he hasn't realised that the election and appointing of the senate were rigged ! All this happened before he took office, and Thailand spend / spending a Shedload of Money on US Arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 29 minutes ago, samsensam said: indeed, it's the US envoy's job to say nice things Really based on reciprocity; aka Trump philosophy. Buy our military junks and in return we will say nice things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim1000 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 21 hours ago, Artisi said: More like no alians allowed in, big wall to stop them. Artisi I cant really comment on your post..... but I do like your taste in cars ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, Jim1000 said: Artisi I cant really comment on your post..... but I do like your taste in cars ! Wish it was still in the garage, unfortunately had to go when moving to Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrbamc Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 6:43 AM, Artisi said: "On the path to democracy", must be the reason for Donald's visit - to show napoleon how it's done. I don't know, I can get a decent lunch at BKK for under $2. I can't get a water for under $3 at any American airport. US has a $ Trillion a year budget deficit while Thailand has a surplus. The leader of the US is a liar a thief and a whore. Now tell me again why the US has a better government than Thailand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 This guy works at the US Embassy in LOS......really! The facts are pretty obvious to most people that this is anything but a democracy and may not be a democracy for a long long time. But we aren't wearing ankle bracelets yet, so things aren't as bad as they could be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 555- What does the USA government know about democracy when they have a “wanna-be” dictator as president who did not win the popular vote. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aj Mick Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Been on the road to democracy for 87 years, including about 30 years under military government in one form or another, and many more under quasi-military control. Periods of nominally democratic administration have been few and far between, and usually brief. The road has been long, bumpy and winding, with no end in sight any time soon. Edited September 28, 2019 by Aj Mick fix typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 A long and winding road indeed. If that's really true (color me skeptical) do you think a Thai baby born today will ever see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aj Mick Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, Jingthing said: A long and winding road indeed. If that's really true (color me skeptical) do you think a Thai baby born today will ever see it? The past couple of decades have seen some faltering turns toward democracy, and some emphatic turns in the other direction. It is possible that a baby born today could see a truely democratic Thailand in his or her lifetime, but recent turns make it seem unlikely. There may be a few signs of democracy in the passing landscape, but a rather different beast has been responsible for what is seen in the foreground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TallGuyJohninBKK Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/28/2019 at 11:16 AM, Jrbamc said: US has a $ Trillion a year budget deficit while Thailand has a surplus. The leader of the US is a liar a thief and a whore. Now tell me again why the US has a better government than Thailand? The U.S. has a better system of government that Thailand, with a Constitution that has endured pretty much intact for a couple hundred years and generally served the country well, and the fundamental notion of co-equal branches of government providing checks and balances on the other -- the president, the Congress and the courts, along with a "free" press. Unfortunately at present, that system is being abused, corrupted and mangled by someone who has utterly no respect, understanding or appreciation for the notion of co-equal branches of government, and the Constitution's notions of checks and balances. For him, it's all about the Imperial Presidency and ego gratification and self-enrichment. Let the peasant American people eat cake!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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