alzack Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, MaxLee said: Aye, aye, aye, haven't the governor and authorities learned anything from the past,..... All MR Taksins fault call in the army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goo61 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, khunpa said: Good!!!! All people living in BKK should now try to x2 or x3 the levels and imagine this going on for 3-4 months. That is exactly what all people living in the north live with EVERY year. What BKK is experiencing right now, is considered "Fresh Air" during the smoke season in the North. That doesn’t make it any better...just because it’s worse in Chiang Mai doesn’t mean this isn’t an issue. Both are major issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, seeyoujimmy said: Does that mean they do nothing till he tells them. Don't be ridiculous no one gets told here, what you mean is "ordered" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, webfact said: ordered authorities immediately to activate prepared measures to mitigate the haze, If measures have already been prepared, why does it need an order to activate such measures. Complete BS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 And yet they want to continue building more essentially free to use roads to reduce congestion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbbb Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 blame it on the foreigners like everthing else can.t be thai.s fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta408 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The haze, of course, is coming from Indonesia and we are swamped. Totally swamped!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 What a horrific and ongoing nightmare for us all. Young, Old, Corrupt lazy politicians and young infants right out of the womb. No-one is immune or exempt from this terrible unlivable hell Bangkok is descending into. I hope tourists and the like abandon Thailand so that the message gets through the thick corrupt heads of those in charge and they can actually manage to do something about this horrendous nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) There is a very simple solution to this problem. If the authorities were interested in solutions. The burning has to stop. There are alternatives, to this 19th century technique of burning after the sugar cane harvest. Either the government starts to encourage farmers to switch to more environmentally friendly crops, or they start to penalize farmers for burning. This heinous burning, is leading to a tremendous degree of environmental degradation, and alot of lung disease. So here is what I propose- 1. Fine the farmers 5,000 baht for a first offense, and give them a stern warning, that burning is now prohibited, and the second fine will be very harsh. 2. For a second offense, fine the farmer 100,000 baht, and warn them that if the burning continues, their land will be confiscated. 3. On the 3rd offense, confiscate their land. Period. No questions. No legal proceeding or appeals on the part of the farmers. Allow others to come in and purchase the land at a fair price, with the caveat that sugar is prohibited as a crop to be grown on that land. The news would travel faster than the toxic smoke, and farmers would change their ways overnight, and move into the 21st century. Also, slowly phase out diesel engines. If not maintained properly they are incredibly toxic and filthy. And most are not maintained properly, with filthy oil being the chief culprit. The bottom line is that the government just does not seem to care. Hard to battle utter apathy and total incompetence. Edited September 30, 2019 by spidermike007 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaifriends Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I read somewhere that they were blaming Indonesia for this toxic air ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmartyn Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Does the Government care do not think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikmar Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, HHTel said: If measures have already been prepared, why does it need an order to activate such measures. Complete BS. prepared measures....like have a meeting to talk about it. hey, maybe theyll form a committee to look into it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, HHTel said: If measures have already been prepared, why does it need an order to activate such measures. Complete BS. The PM needs to order the Fire Department to start uselessly spaying water into the air from their hoses... Otherwise, they can't manage to do it on their own. Being useless requires a specific order from a higher useless authority. Chief Air Marshal!!! Ready the molasses drones!!!! But don't actually fly then until ordered!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meshborg Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 ????In Thailan,In Thailan we love toxix smug in Thailan???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggy Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 hours ago, BobbyL said: No problem, they will start spraying water from the top of buildings to sort this out. Or could use attack helicopters and bomb the pollution with water bombs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airalee Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) In Bangkok, Phra Khanong...Forgot to turn on my air purifier last night. Turned it on this morning at 10:00 and this is what I get. I cannot claim that it is accurate but.... Edited September 30, 2019 by Airalee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyg Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Trying to mitigate this kind of stuff. I’ve already bought a very good air filter for inside my condo. At least I’ll have decent air more than half the time. Periodic detoxing for the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender92 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 hours ago, webfact said: Bangkok enshrouded in toxic air By The Nation Photo taken at Bang Khen,Bangkok/Rachanon Intharaksa/NationPhoto An unhealthy level of air pollution covered 14 areas of Greater Bangkok on Monday morning, according to the Pollution Control Department due to particulate matter smaller than 2.5 micrometres (PM2.5). Bangkok residents woke up to see a cloud of small dust in the heart of the capital, including Pathum Wan, Din Daeng, and sections of Lat Phra road. Levels of 42-66 micrograms per cubic metre (µg/m3) were found in 14 areas. Thailand’s official safety limit is 50µg/m3, double the World Health Organisation’s 25µg/m3. Bangkok was also ranked the second highest after Hanoi on Monday for the pollution, according to the Air quality and pollution city ranking as reported by airvisual.com. The Pollution Control Department reported high air pollution counts in the following areas: Kanchanaphisek Rd Bang Khun Thian Bangkok and Rama IV Rd. Khet Pathum Wan Bangkok and Intarapitak Rd. Khet Thon Buri Bangkok and Lat Phrao Rd. Khet Wang Thonglang Bangkok and Din Daeng Rd. Khet Din Daeng Bangkok, Pubpla Khet Wang Thonglang Bangkok, Mueang Nakhon Pathom, Bang Krua Bang Kruai Nonthaburi, Bang Phut Pak Kret Nonthaburi, Khlong Nueng Khlong Luang Pathum Thani, Song Kanong Phra Pradaeng Samut Prakan, Pak Nam Meuang Samut Prakan, Om Noi Krathum Baen Samut Sakhon and Maha Chai Mueang Samut Sakhon Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30376881 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-09-30 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Trying to make the Chinese feel at home? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Pasuwan said: This forum is full of Trolls. Seems to me, there's very little in the way of constructive comments. It's a holier Than Thou attitude. These are reasons I stay away from Farangs. 100% spot on. I have been here 8+ years and learned early on, any attempt to have a POSITIVE conversation with Farangs is a fool's errand. (10x times so with Thai Visa people) It is also a waste of time to try and help folks who just landed and need directions ... since clearly ... 60 minutes with your smart phone is better than a local telling you ... "BTS is 100 meters up the road, up the escalator, follow the signs to the Ha Yaek Lat Phrao train, get off at Mo Chit" SO much better to spend an hour becoming a smart phone zombie! "F" 'em ... I just do what Thai people do, find something else to look at, and pretend they do not exist. SO much better! No drama, no stress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebumbu Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 God forbid, don't institute vehicle emission controls and emission inspections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Airalee said: In Bangkok, Phra Khanong...Forgot to turn on my air purifier last night. Turned it on this morning at 10:00 and this is what I get. I cannot claim that it is accurate but.... Mine shoots up that high if I spray my Deodorant in the room.... but they've been running 10-30 at the moment. I left the balcony open yesterday afternoon for a short while and it ran shot up to 85. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 They did nothing permanent to cure the last issue, they just sprayed water from roof tops... guess they'll do the same again... nothing changes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Some troll posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airalee Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Mine shoots up that high if I spray my Deodorant in the room.... but they've been running 10-30 at the moment. I left the balcony open yesterday afternoon for a short while and it ran shot up to 85. Yeah....understood...same things happen to me (leave the door open etc) but this was just coming out of my bedroom into the living room where the AC had been off, doors closed and nothing sprayed. It just makes me not believe any readings (either my own or the “official” ones) and let my burning eyes be the judge of how bad it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaifriends Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, spidermike007 said: There is a very simple solution to this problem. If the authorities were interested in solutions. The burning has to stop. There are alternatives, to this 19th century technique of burning after the sugar cane harvest. Either the government starts to encourage farmers to switch to more environmentally friendly crops, or they start to penalize farmers for burning. This heinous burning, is leading to a tremendous degree of environmental degradation, and alot of lung disease. So here is what I propose- 1. Fine the farmers 5,000 baht for a first offense, and give them a stern warning, that burning is now prohibited, and the second fine will be very harsh. 2. For a second offense, fine the farmer 100,000 baht, and warn them that if the burning continues, their land will be confiscated. 3. On the 3rd offense, confiscate their land. Period. No questions. No legal proceeding or appeals on the part of the farmers. Allow others to come in and purchase the land at a fair price, with the caveat that sugar is prohibited as a crop to be grown on that land. The news would travel faster than the toxic smoke, and farmers would change their ways overnight, and move into the 21st century. Also, slowly phase out diesel engines. If not maintained properly they are incredibly toxic and filthy. And most are not maintained properly, with filthy oil being the chief culprit. The bottom line is that the government just does not seem to care. Hard to battle utter apathy and total incompetence. True. Well written. ???? Can imagine if most of the taxis were not on LPG or NGV then. The diesel engine EURO I, II, III and so on must be applied to phase out the old engines commercial vehicles. Smog is temperorary but air pollution is permanent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Airalee said: In Bangkok, Phra Khanong...Forgot to turn on my air purifier last night. Turned it on this morning at 10:00 and this is what I get. I cannot claim that it is accurate but.... I have one of these in every room, and if I open the window for short time they go up to 50 or so but in 10-15 minutes return to about 15-20 where they hover for the last few days. Normally they were between 1 and 4 majority of the time with an occasional jump to 7 or 8 before returning to as close to 0 as it gets. They do run 24/7 though, set to Auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsCleanUpTHAILAND Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 16 hours ago, webfact said: PM2.5 dust particles So BKK is covered in a smog of it's own pollution, meanwhile, to save Thailand's economy during the US/China Trade war, the Thai government has invested over 12BN Baht in the past year to Americanizing their military (tanks and helicopters), sealed the deal with neighboring ASEAN countries to allow foreign investment of plastic manufacturing facilities (more air and water pollution) and, meanwhile, janitors continue to burn debris with plastics in a pile outside of government buildings. The good news, Greenpeace got some Thai kids to play dead outside of a government build to send a strong message about climate change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsCleanUpTHAILAND Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, tomazbodner said: I have one of these in every room, and if I open the window for short time they go up to 50 or so but in 10-15 minutes return to about 15-20 where they hover for the last few days. Normally they were between 1 and 4 majority of the time with an occasional jump to 7 or 8 before returning to as close to 0 as it gets. They do run 24/7 though, set to Auto. How much? How long does the filter last? Do you have a PM2.5 meter on it? Good Thinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, LetsCleanUpTHAILAND said: How much? How long does the filter last? Do you have a PM2.5 meter on it? Good Thinking! 3500 baht up from Lazada, I bought them a while back so they were around 6000 baht at that time. Global version. Yes, they have pm2.5 meter on them. It's Xiaomi Air Purifier 2S. Can connect with Mi Home app so you can control them and see the remaining filter life and temperature/humidity/air quality reading from anywhere. Filters are 800 baht or so on Lazada for genuine ones, full price 899 or 999, can't remember, but even Xiaomi shop always gave discount. There's a larger model available, Air Purifier Pro (looks same just taller) for larger rooms, but uses same filter; and Air Purifier Max which looks similar but uses different filters and is up to 120m2. In my ones filters last about 5-6 months at 24/7 use in the middle of quite a polluted area of Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oznomad Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 hours ago, CGW said: Don't spoil the fun! keeps people occupied Focus the attention, next will be stopping volcanoes erupting, collecting back taxes from Mount St Helen's and best of all cooling that silly hot sun down Alternative use for molasses drones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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