Pelosi says public opinion shifting in support of impeachment inquiry

[scorecard]

30 minutes ago, Sakeopete said:

Unless the economy complete tanks in America Trump will win. The democrats have shown no unity and look crazier than Trump. The constant attacks on Trump will only help him win the election thanks to the sympathy votes. 

 

Democrats haven't shown any achievements to improve the life of the average American all they do is focus on attacking Trump and fighting each other for the craziest socialist award. 

 

At the end of the day all the fluff issues mean nothing people want jobs and security for their families. The democrats are running a campaign on socialism working class people know it doesn't work and that it will come with huge tax increases. Only the unemployed and students will want that working class people don't want to see their hard earned money go to the government.

 

Ask yourself honestly,  despite all the accusations thrown at Trump would you risk your families financial future voting for a party running a socialist platform that will kill  jobs and increase taxes?

 

Oh no, socialism, quick hide under the bed, we'll all be dead because socialism is pure evil.

 

When will more Americans learn that modern socialism is well in place and works in many counties, means ( Example: in many countries that getting sick does not mean you have to sell the house and go into bankruptcy) and is well accepted / wanted by the community.

[scorecard]

40 minutes ago, Sakeopete said:

Unless the economy complete tanks in America Trump will win. The democrats have shown no unity and look crazier than Trump. The constant attacks on Trump will only help him win the election thanks to the sympathy votes. 

 

Democrats haven't shown any achievements to improve the life of the average American all they do is focus on attacking Trump and fighting each other for the craziest socialist award. 

 

At the end of the day all the fluff issues mean nothing people want jobs and security for their families. The democrats are running a campaign on socialism working class people know it doesn't work and that it will come with huge tax increases. Only the unemployed and students will want that working class people don't want to see their hard earned money go to the government.

 

Ask yourself honestly,  despite all the accusations thrown at Trump would you risk your families financial future voting for a party running a socialist platform that will kill  jobs and increase taxes?

"Ask yourself honestly,  despite all the accusations thrown at Trump would you risk your families financial future voting for a party running a socialist platform that will kill  jobs and increase taxes?"

 

Rubbish. How does socialism kill jobs and increase taxes?

 

You add a laughing emoji, why so? Or perhaps you would like to answer how socialism kills jobs and increases taxes?  And in regard to taxes don't deliberately ignore that in many countries the community at large likes socialism in regard to health, education and more and yes it does increase taxes but overall the community is better off.

Edited September 30, 2019 by scorecard

[Boon Mee]

6 hours ago, Sticky Wicket said:

what a waste of time, money and effort

Hear hear! 

Truer words were never spoken. 

 

MAGA 

[Jingthing]

And that 35% is shrinking with alarming speed (alarming, at least, to Trump supporters).

It isn't shrinking. Talking about the hard core base that would still support him if he started shooting random people on the street.

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[Becker]

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It isn't shrinking. Talking about the hard core base that would still support him if he started shooting random people on the street.

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It's happening slowly but it is shrinking due to the fact that Trump's base consists mainly of older whites. That means there will be fewer named George and more named Jorge, and in a couple of decades the GOP will have lost all relevance unless they......no, it's too late for them. They sold their souls to the devil and he's got a strict no return policy.

Som nam naa, as they say in Thailand.

[quandow]

51 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It isn't shrinking. Talking about the hard core base that would still support him if he started shooting random people on the street.

Women that previously supported him are leaving in notable numbers, the old white guys are dying off, and no one is replacing either of them.

[Jingthing]

Women that previously supported him are leaving in notable numbers, the old white guys are dying off, and no one is replacing either of them.

I am only talking about his hard core base. Not saying all of his previous supporters were in that category.

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[Isaan sailor]

Whistleblower qualifications weakened surreptitiously a month before.  No longer do they require a fist hand witness.  Now, anyone can say they heard something from someone—without any proof.  That’s a travesty of justice—and quite suspicious with the timing of the change. 

[johnnybangkok]

10 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Whistleblower qualifications weakened surreptitiously a month before.  No longer do they require a fist hand witness.  Now, anyone can say they heard something from someone—without any proof.  That’s a travesty of justice—and quite suspicious with the timing of the change. 

You have transcripts literally spelling out the conversation yet you want to shoot the messenger?  

[JMSIII]

7 hours ago, Sticky Wicket said:

At least two-thirds of the Senate, or 67 members, must vote to convict the president, resulting in his removal from office. Currently, the Senate has 53 Republicans, 45 Democrats and two independents who usually vote with the Democrats.

 

GOOD luck with that ????

Don't forget before the Senate can even start impeachment, the House has to vote with a majority for an impeachment inquiry.   Pelosi has the majority of the house, but has been refusing to put it up for an official roll call vote.

 

Public opinion is very much against impeachment.

 

In the 72 hours after Pelosi's announcement, Trump pulled in $14 million dollars in small donations.

 

The was no quid pro quo in Trumps released transcripts.  The only quid pro quo was Joe Biden bragging about withholding 1 billion dollars if the prosecutor that was investigating his son Hunter, was not fired.  I posted the video of Biden bragging but it was removed...

 

This is more political grandstanding and perpetrating the hoax against Trump.  Just all a bunch of hot air ignoring the actual facts and actual evidence...

 

Corrupt Chuck Schumer say it all.  This is what got JFK assassinated:

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/schumer-trump-being-really-dumb-to-fight-with-intel-agencies-847022147815

Edited September 30, 2019 by JMSIII
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[phantomfiddler]

What a pathetic sick old biddy. And what amazes me is that America not only considers itself to be such a bastion of democracy that they must force democracy down the throat of every other country, when they are behaving in the least democratic way possible !!! Democracy means that the person elected has the steering wheel for 4 years and then another vote is taken to see if there is a more suitable candidate on the horizon. These pathetic democrats have shown that they have no agenda whatsoever other than to destroy their elected president, and in my opinion should be charged with treason ????

[JMSIII]

47 minutes ago, quandow said:

Women that previously supported him are leaving in notable numbers, the old white guys are dying off, and no one is replacing either of them.

Very clueless statement.  Have you seen how every rally is packed inside and outside as well?  After Pelosi made her impeachment speech, within 72 hours Trump got $14 million dollars in small donations.  He has support from all races and both sexes...  

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, JMSIII said:

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Public opinion is very much against impeachment.

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The trend is your friend. Support is growing.

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Trump Impeachment Polls: Public Support Is On the Rise

https://fortune.com/2019/09/27/trump-impeachment-poll-latest-support/

[JMSIII]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

The trend is your friend. Support is growing.

https://fortune.com/2019/09/27/trump-impeachment-poll-latest-support/

Just like the polls that had Hillary Clinton winning big against Trump in 2016. ????   Polls are a manipulation tool.

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said:

What a pathetic sick old biddy. And what amazes me is that America not only considers itself to be such a bastion of democracy that they must force democracy down the throat of every other country, when they are behaving in the least democratic way possible !!! Democracy means that the person elected has the steering wheel for 4 years and then another vote is taken to see if there is a more suitable candidate on the horizon. These pathetic democrats have shown that they have no agenda whatsoever other than to destroy their elected president, and in my opinion should be charged with treason ????

Another one that hasn't read the constitution.

This is the thing with "trump" hard core base people. 

Facts don't matter.

Reality doesn't matter.

Logic doesn't matter.

The law doesn't matter.

Ethics doesn't matter.

Morality doesn't matter.

The constitution doesn't matter. 

ONLY "trump" and maga matters.

I guess it's time to think about how the USA is going to have to deal the ugly business de-"trump"-ification.  

Edited September 30, 2019 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, JMSIII said:

Just like the polls that had Hillary Clinton winning big against Trump in 2016. ????   Polls are a manipulation tool.

The polls were remarkably accurate in 2016. They called her popular vote WINNING margin very well. The only reason she lost was about losing by TINY MARGINS in four states. So that criticism of the polls is simply WRONG. 

[JMSIII]

1 hour ago, Becker said:

It's happening slowly but it is shrinking due to the fact that Trump's base consists mainly of older whites. That means there will be fewer named George and more named Jorge, and in a couple of decades the GOP will have lost all relevance unless they......no, it's too late for them. They sold their souls to the devil and he's got a strict no return policy.

Som nam naa, as they say in Thailand.

So wrong.  You will see next year...

[scorecard]

8 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said:

What a pathetic sick old biddy. And what amazes me is that America not only considers itself to be such a bastion of democracy that they must force democracy down the throat of every other country, when they are behaving in the least democratic way possible !!! Democracy means that the person elected has the steering wheel for 4 years and then another vote is taken to see if there is a more suitable candidate on the horizon. These pathetic democrats have shown that they have no agenda whatsoever other than to destroy their elected president, and in my opinion should be charged with treason ????

How sweet.

 

And you conveniently ignore / not mention that the person 'with the steering wheel' is expected to be the poster child / classic example of ethics and morals and be truthful. Or perhaps you consider the POTUS (whoever it might be) should be allowed to flaunt / break the laws which are there for very good reasons.

 

Perhaps you consider contacting the russians about help with being re-elected is totally ethical. Many many folks would not.

 

Or perhaps you would consider thaksin when he held the steering wheel should have been allowed to do whatever he wanted. And to some extent he tried that, the law eventually caught up with him and he's sentenced to jail and should be. 

 

 

[spiekerjozef]

Hamburger time

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, spiekerjozef said:

Hamburger time

If you mean this isn't a nothingburger now … EXACTLY!

[johnnybangkok]

42 minutes ago, JMSIII said:

Don't forget before the Senate can even start impeachment, the House has to vote with a majority for an impeachment inquiry.   Pelosi has the majority of the house, but has been refusing to put it up for an official roll call vote.

 

Public opinion is very much against impeachment.

 

In the 72 hours after Pelosi's announcement, Trump pulled in $14 million dollars in small donations.

 

The was no quid pro quo in Trumps released transcripts.  The only quid pro quo was Joe Biden bragging about withholding 1 billion dollars if the prosecutor that was investigating his son Hunter, was not fired.  I posted the video of Biden bragging but it was removed...

 

This is more political grandstanding and perpetrating the hoax against Trump.  Just all a bunch of hot air ignoring the actual facts and actual evidence...

 

Corrupt Chuck Schumer say it all.  This is what got JFK assassinated:

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/schumer-trump-being-really-dumb-to-fight-with-intel-agencies-847022147815

Lets put this 'quid pro quo' nonsense to bed straight away with a very simple scenario.

A guy comes up to you in the street and sticks a gun in your face and yells 'give me your money!' Now are you uncertain about what is happening because he didn't say 'Give me your money, this is a robbery?' Of course not. You know explicitly what is happening because your brain is wired for nuances. Therefore when the POTUS asks for 'a favour' with the exact words 'There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.' we are left under no illusion what is being asked for and that it is an attempt to get dirt on a political opponent on the back of a huge financial inducement.

It is a crime in the US to ask a foreign entity to assist in any capacity in a US election.

I'm not sure how much clearer it can get.  

Edited September 30, 2019 by johnnybangkok

[CGW]

2 hours ago, Emdog said:

Trump hollering about Biden's son getting a job because of family: really? I mean, REALLY?

REALLY, I have to agree, quite entitled, they could all learn a lesson from the hardworking Clinton's & Blair's even their kids have managed to do very well for "themselves" with no influence's, even Obama has manged to write very nice fictional book that has sold very well ???? 

Next they will be imprisoning "journalists" who dare to tell us the truth! 

[SOTIRIOS]

...completely detached from reality....

 

..in fact...sociopath reality...the opposite is true....

 

...

[Becker]

Trump Retweets Zany Message Slamming 'Pro Shark Media' Over Fox Impeachment Blowup

 

Poor Don, he's losing it.

[EVENKEEL]

For over 2 yrs the rabid wacky libs beat the drums over the Mueller report, all we heard was "the walls are closing in on Mr. Trump"

 

I'm just so very happy my working for a paycheck days are numbered. I want no part of Socialized medicine.

Can you imagine going to the Dr's and needing an operation only to have the so called expert tell you that "you're not viable enough" to receive needed treatment.

 

Now, I understand the unemployed, the unemployable like the idea of a free life, I do, I get it. And, I understand in the not to far away future it will become inevitable because of AI. The day will come when their will be no jobs for many and the government will dictate who lives, who dies, who can have children, all that.

 

I'm almost.....real close to collecting my SS and 21.7 yr Gov pension (FERS) I'll keep my Blue Cross,Blue Shield Ins. I've got 2 rentals in the US plus some other properties, bought and paid for 2 houses in Thailand. 

 

You guys duke it out, all I need now is some THC oil ????

[Becker]

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

For over 2 yrs the rabid wacky libs beat the drums over the Mueller report, all we heard was "the walls are closing in on Mr. Trump"

 

I'm just so very happy my working for a paycheck days are numbered. I want no part of Socialized medicine.

Can you imagine going to the Dr's and needing an operation only to have the so called expert tell you that "you're not viable enough" to receive needed treatment.

 

Now, I understand the unemployed, the unemployable like the idea of a free life, I do, I get it. And, I understand in the not to far away future it will become inevitable because of AI. The day will come when their will be no jobs for many and the government will dictate who lives, who dies, who can have children, all that.

 

I'm almost.....real close to collecting my SS and 21.7 yr Gov pension (FERS) I'll keep my Blue Cross,Blue Shield Ins. I've got 2 rentals in the US plus some other properties, bought and paid for 2 houses in Thailand. 

 

You guys duke it out, all I need now is some THC oil ????

Your empathy with those less fortunate than you is really heartwarming.

[EVENKEEL]

1 minute ago, Becker said:

Your empathy with those less fortunate than you is really heartwarming.

They're not less fortunate, just lazier. I worked hard for what I have.

[candide]

9 minutes ago, Becker said:

Trump Retweets Zany Message Slamming 'Pro Shark Media' Over Fox Impeachment Blowup

 

Poor Don, he's losing it.

Because of stress and rage, I guess there will be more occurences of it.

[johnnybangkok]

4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

For over 2 yrs the rabid wacky libs beat the drums over the Mueller report, all we heard was "the walls are closing in on Mr. Trump"

 

I'm just so very happy my working for a paycheck days are numbered. I want no part of Socialized medicine.

Can you imagine going to the Dr's and needing an operation only to have the so called expert tell you that "you're not viable enough" to receive needed treatment.

 

Now, I understand the unemployed, the unemployable like the idea of a free life, I do, I get it. And, I understand in the not to far away future it will become inevitable because of AI. The day will come when their will be no jobs for many and the government will dictate who lives, who dies, who can have children, all that.

 

I'm almost.....real close to collecting my SS and 21.7 yr Gov pension (FERS) I'll keep my Blue Cross,Blue Shield Ins. I've got 2 rentals in the US plus some other properties, bought and paid for 2 houses in Thailand. 

 

You guys duke it out, all I need now is some THC oil ????

'Can you imagine going to the Dr's and needing an operation only to have the so called expert tell you that "you're not viable enough" to receive needed treatment.'

That is so not how socialised medicine works it's laughable. You obviously haven't been exposed to something like the NHS where you would never be turned away from essential treatment.

The rest of your post is just the usual selfish 'I'm alright Jack, so who cares about anyone else' nonsense we have come to expect from Trump fans. 

[Becker]

11 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

They're not less fortunate, just lazier. I worked hard for what I have.

Yep, they're all lazy. How very, very....insightful.