What is wrong with some people?

[Totoandlilly]

1 minute ago, AlexRich said:

Absolutely, he likes other people. A misanthrope like me would require a property at least two miles from the nearest neighbour.

 

My previous neighbora was 2 meters away so for me that's a big change

[observer90210]

bribe and train a soi dog,  to bite the nut case the next time he passes yelling in front of yer house....

[JaiLai]

He might have had some objects in he's car that can cause harm.

Really?


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[fcgprg]

1 minute ago, Totoandlilly said:

I moved from the previous place because my neighbors dogs was roaming free in the street and barking all night.

It looks like you will have to move again.

 

[Totoandlilly]

Just now, fcgprg said:

It looks like you will have to move again.

 

Of course not. I'm comfortable here, it's quiet here compared to the previous place.

[Totoandlilly]

6 minutes ago, Abananaed said:

owning dog !  got to be a rabid sicko

Are you ok?

[Moonlover]

41 minutes ago, tingtongtourist said:

Unless they tied up, I dont listen to what the owner say, i am ready with Pepper spray.

If he dont like it, he can gets a dose as well!

If you want turn any dog into an angry, aggressive one, tie it up. it's just about guaranteed you'll get one!

 

The O/Ps dogs reaction is completely natural. A barking dog is not an aggressive one at all, it's simply sending out its message of territorial defence and warn off any potential threat.

 

I live in a small village with many dogs around. They have all got to know me and I never have any problems with any of them. But some folks are less understanding of dogs as we have seen from the comments in this thread.

 

@Totoandlilly perhaps you could try a bit of diplomacy by trying to introduce this hostile jogger to your dogs and let find out for himself that they are not aggressive. Also the dogs, in turn will learn that he is not a threat and may behave more calmly toward him.

 

 

[sunnyboy2018]

So the jogger got hot under the collar?

[Totoandlilly]

1 minute ago, Moonlover said:

If you want turn any dog into an angry, aggressive one, tie it up. it's just about guaranteed you'll get one!

 

The O/Ps dogs reaction is completely natural. A barking dog is not an aggressive one at all, it's simply sending out its message of territorial defence and warn off any potential threat.

 

I live in a small village with many dogs around. They have all got to know me and I never have any problems with any of them. But some folks are less understanding of dogs as we have seen from the comments in this thread.

 

@Totoandlilly perhaps you could try a bit of diplomacy by trying to introduce this hostile jogger to your dogs and let find out for himself that they are not aggressive. Also the dogs, in turn will learn that he is not a threat and may behave more calmly toward him.

 

 

That's an solution, but I have never seen him passing by here before, and I tried to talk to him but he wasn't interested, he behaved very aggressive, talking with himself sitting in he's car  long ti.e that was parked 50 meter down the street. He pass by again and was driving slowly.

[Totoandlilly]

1 minute ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

So the jogger got hot under the collar?

Very hot I can say! 

[scorecard]

48 minutes ago, Totoandlilly said:

American ish. He was yelling and swearing with himself while he was walking towards he's car.

yelling... hey maybe the clown in on a holiday before the official visit, and burger joints nearby?

[stereolab]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Its most annoying when a dog comes at you aggressively, barking and showing its teeth and you are thinking you are about to get attacked by the dog ...............................and then the owner says smiling "Its OK, he wont bite"

  Yep, your dog sure wont be biting when I wrap this rock around its head

I am petrified of dogs, when walking, as happened yesterday, past a house with a dog in the garden it started barking and running towards me, very few properties here have full fencing,  the owner just looked at me as if I was mad. A big problem is that there are dogs in every second garden and when one barks it can set of the rest of them. Frankly most Thai dog owners could not give a damn about their dogs behavior.

[Chazar]

1 hour ago, NCC1701A said:

Hi.

no you cant, you can only grow 6  plants.

 

Edited October 1, 2019 by Chazar

[sillyfool]

51 minutes ago, stereolab said:

I am petrified of dogs, when walking, as happened yesterday, past a house with a dog in the garden it started barking and running towards me, very few properties here have full fencing,  the owner just looked at me as if I was mad. A big problem is that there are dogs in every second garden and when one barks it can set of the rest of them. Frankly most Thai dog owners could not give a damn about their dogs behavior.

i find that frothing at the mouth and running with bug eyes and barking like a mad man at the dog works well. just make sure you stay in crazy mode or the doggie will see through your ploy. 

 

either that or go to your local talad and get a couple kilo of pork bones to throw at them.

[Chazar]

1 hour ago, Issannative said:

I encourage my dogs to bark at ppl. If they behind a gate np, I would train them to bark at the jogger more

its  much better to train them not to bark so that when people mistakenly  climb over the wall that quiet dog savages them.

[DaRoadrunner]

2 hours ago, CharlieH said:

If your dogs are contained, then there is no problem,

There is still a problem, with the noise they make. Your typical western dog will bark if someone comes to your house, but Thai dogs will bark for no reason. There are three opposite my apartment that I would like to terminate. The owner seems oblivious to the noise. Why do Thais love noise and cannot abide silence?

[JaiLai]

There is still a problem, with the noise they make. Your typical western dog will bark if someone comes to your house, but Thai dogs will bark for no reason. There are three opposite my apartment that I would like to terminate. The owner seems oblivious to the noise. Why do Thais love noise and cannot abide silence?

There’s always a reason, just coz you don’t know what it might be does not mean it does not exist.

I’d like to terminate you before any dog.


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[richard_smith237]

This is always a delicate topic... 

 

I'll start by mentioning that I've only met two dog-owners who've mentioned intelligently "its a lovely well mannered dog but its still an animal, and we can never know" [when a dog may bite] - these are the responsible dog owners, the ones who are considerate of others. 

 

In my housing complex in Bangkok I was with my Son (5 years old) riding our bikes down the centre of the quiet moo-ban road, in the middle of the street and passed a drive way with closed gate (3 foot high) - the dog (a Golden Retriever, I think) barked loudly as we passed (5m away) - it made me jump, my son nearly fell off his bike. 

 

My thoughts on this are 'antisocial t@£t' - the owner has no idea (or maybe he does) that his dog is frightening people as they pass by in the street. 

 

The dog 'could have' jumped the fence (I guess) but didn't. In some owners eyes they'll suggest that the dog was just playing, or just being defensive of its property etc etc... but is scaring children and people passing by inside a moo-baan acceptable? - to me its not, we have to walk past this house to go to the swimming pool / club house area. 

 

My question for this forum, particularly those defending the Op is: What is it with Dog Owners who think this is acceptable behavior? 

 

Is 'not bearing of the teeth' an indication that a dog won't bite a child? - I'm not willing to take that chance and neither should dog owners. 

 

It would now appear to me that given the choice 'some dog owners' and posters of certain comments on this thread would make the choice of protecting their property against the slim possibility of a robbery vs the slim possibility of their dog biting a child (I've tried not to use emotive language here to place this into a balanced context).

 

Would any dog owner be more ok with a dog biting a child over their property being burgled?

 

I'm sure, so many dog owners will now comment that their dog cannot get out, perhaps that is true,  but is it true 100% of the time? I'm not sure sure I'll receive a balance and unbiased answer.

 

 

To place my above comments further into a perspective I feel is balanced. I love dogs, but I live in Bangkok, in a community and I can never guarantee that any dog I have is going to be 100% perfect. It's going to annoy neighbors when I'm not in, its going to bark at the guy jogging passed my house, no matter the breed or how well mannered, the dog in the house is going to be a continual and permanent risk to any children in the house and nearby - I therefor won't own a dog. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[JaiLai]

I have big dogs, if you come into my land without invitation they will attack you ( my gate is always locked ).
If I have visitors my digs will be locked away even though I’m 99.99% sure they will not bite my friends, certain friends want to see them, if that’s the case they’re free to join the party.
I live pretty remote and not in LEGO land ( could think of nothing worse !) if people walk or motorbikes go past they bark, I’m happy they bark.
In this country you can pretty much do what you want on your property, if that means a dog(s) barking there’s not much you can do about it.


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[sanemax]

12 hours ago, JaiLai said:

There’s always a reason, just coz you don’t know what it might be does not mean it does not exist.

I’d like to terminate you before any dog.
 

You sound quite similar to your dogs 

[Kinnock]

Properly trained and socialised dogs should not bark at strangers when they out being walked.

 

So what the OP is saying is that he can't control his dogs, and that other people need to put up with that.

Edited October 1, 2019 by Kinnock

[JaiLai]

You sound quite similar to your dogs 

Very


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[JaiLai]

Properly trained and socialised dogs should not bark at strangers when they out being walked.
 
So what the OP is saying is that he can't control his dogs, and that other people need to put with that.

The dogs were in his garden, not being walked


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[Kinnock]

3 minutes ago, JaiLai said:

The dogs were in his garden, not being walked


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Still annoying and can startle some people.

 

Imagine if I had an over sensitive car alarm that went off every time someone walked past my house.  You'd soon get cheesed off 

 

My own experience of dog owners is that many expect others to adjust to the negative impacts if their 'hobby'.

 

A well socialized dog will not bark at passers by.  That is the action of a bored, poorly trained dog. 

 

[JaiLai]

Still annoying and can startle some people.
 
Imagine if I had an over sensitive car alarm that went off every time someone walked past my house.  You'd soon get cheesed off 
 
My own experience of dog owners is that many expect others to adjust to the negative impacts if their 'hobby'.
 
A well socialized dog will not bark at passers by.  That is the action of a bored, poorly trained dog. 
 

Car alarm - irrelevant to the discussion.

Any dog will bark at passers by - you’re wrong.


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[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, JaiLai said:

Car alarm - irrelevant to the discussion.

Any dog will bark at passers by - you’re wrong.
 

 

Highly relevant to the discussion - Noises which disturb everyone within earshot and irritate the neighborhood. 

 

Agreed on the point that not any dog will bark at passers by - but those that do are as irritating and annoying as a car alarm which goes off regularly. 

 

Any neighbor would be well within his rights to complain of disturbed regularly by a faulty car alarm, so whats the difference between that and a dog which barks and disturbs people nearby?

 

 

OK, you live far away from everyone else, in the sticks, others can't hear your dogs you have a large area of land, the dogs can't escape (100% sure?) and will never bite anyone - OK we get that. But what about the 'dogs barking' in town? 

Is there really any need for people to have dogs in the middle of a built up area? (other than they want a dog because the love dogs). 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[JaiLai]

 
Highly relevant to the discussion - Noises which disturb everyone within earshot and irritate the neighborhood. 
 
Agreed on the point that not any dog will bark at passers by - but those that do are as irritating and annoying as a car alarm which goes off regularly. 
 
Any neighbor would be well within his rights to complain of disturbed regularly by a faulty car alarm, so whats the difference between that and a dog which barks and disturbs people nearby?
 
 
OK, you live far away from everyone else, in the sticks, others can't hear your dogs you have a large area of land, the dogs can't escape (100% sure?) and will never bite anyone - OK we get that. But what about the 'dogs barking' in town? 
Is there really any need for people to have dogs in the middle of a built up area? (other than they want a dog because the love dogs). 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Last time I checked a car alarm will not bite or protect your property.

In this country you have absolutely zero rights to what your neighbour(s) can or cannot do on their land, deal with it. Try complaining about a car alarm, see how that goes....

One of many reasons I moved to the sticks was for peace, you should try it.....


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[richard_smith237]

16 minutes ago, JaiLai said:

Last time I checked a car alarm will not bite or protect your property.

In this country you have absolutely zero rights to what your neighbour(s) can or cannot do on their land, deal with it. Try complaining about a car alarm, see how that goes....

One of many reasons I moved to the sticks was for peace, you should try it.....


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There are plenty of other area's I could live in 3rd world isolation...   the sticks in Thailand has no appeal whatsoever - different folks, different ideals.

 

If someone was intent on robbing your property your dogs will be killed - they're a good deterrent at best, but as you live out of earshot from anyone else your dogs are obviously not a nuisance to anyone else.

 

In a built up area dogs are a nuisance, as are many unnecessary noises such as car alarms (if they go off regularly / nightly, I've not experienced that). 

 

I did live near a hospital with whistle happy parking attendants a few years back - complaints worked and the whistles were removed (the positive response surprised the <deleted> out of me !). 

 

If a car alarm goes off repetitively such that it annoys people night in night out, I doubt I'd need to complain much before someone else sends the message and the issue is dealt with when someone puts a brick through the windscreen. 

Its more difficult with loud and annoying dogs as no one wants to hurt a living animal, not anyone with any sense of morality - however, some people can become pushed beyond their humanity, in some cases there is an element of recognition in their desperation to resolve and unresolvable situation if the owners are unwilling to be considerate. 

 

This is not a Dogs Owners Vs Non Dog owners issue - fundamentally, this is simply an in issue regarding consideration of others, unfortunately 'some' dog owners can be somewhat myopic and unsympathetic to others when it comes to the disruption their dogs generate.

 

The guy shouting and swearing at the Op is clearly unhinged, he made a valid point very poorly. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 1, 2019 by richard_smith237

[neeray]

4 hours ago, sanemax said:

Its most annoying when a dog comes at you aggressively, barking and showing its teeth and you are thinking you are about to get attacked by the dog ...............................and then the owner says smiling "Its OK, he wont bite"

  Yep, your dog sure wont be biting when I wrap this rock around its head

I think you jumped on the OP a little too quick as you don't know the circumstances, ie, fencing, which I see showed up shortly after your post.

 

OP ... A few more details in your initial post would have helped.

[madmen]

What is wrong with people they need to start a thread about this nonsense. Op wouldn't seek out a forum if this horrific event happened back home so why do it here?