kingofthemountain Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Hi i have recently changed the tyres on my motorbike work was done in a thai shop i have just discover now on the rear wheel it's written ''front use only'' it could be a problem (Security reasons or other) or not really just because TIT? Thank you in advance Also as you can see on the photo Camel sale also tyres,not only cigarettes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianezy0 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Short answer is no. This is what Google says: Tires marked as front or rear tires should only be used in their designated position. ... A front tire has a more triangulated profile for steering control, while a rear tire has a flatter profile for bike stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I'd go back to the shop and ask them to change it. And make sure the arrow on the tires is pointing forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, ianezy0 said: Short answer is no. This is what Google says: Tires marked as front or rear tires should only be used in their designated position. ... A front tire has a more triangulated profile for steering control, while a rear tire has a flatter profile for bike stability. Aww ???? thank you for your answer i think it's useless i return to the same shop for a change in pure thai style they probably don't even recognize their mistake i must now try to find one more serious (It was the third motorbike shop i was used it seems to be very dificult to have a good one in Pattaya) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Vacuum said: I'd go back to the shop and ask them to change it. And make sure the arrow on the tires is pointing forward. The work has be done i month ago, i just see the notice on the tyre today. It's probably too late now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said: The work has be done i month ago, i just see the notice on the tyre today. It's probably too late now. Just go to any bike shop and ask them to swap the tyres around. Will cost 100-200 baht max, job done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: Just go to any bike shop and ask them to swap the tyres around. Will cost 100-200 baht max, job done... The tyre in front is also a front tyre (They was probably out of stock for rear tyre at the moment i was in the shop and ''mai pen rai, we do with what we have'' have probably been the idea) so unfortunately no swap possible, Amazing Thailand ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Drive the bike backwards problem solved..............is what they might say to you???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 I have passed the technic control for the renewing of my assurance and tax sticker just after the change of the tyres and nobody in the station have noticed the 2 front tyres on the bike. I don't really know what are the points controled but this control seems to be a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I would have thought everybody in Pattaya would be experts on "rubber". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianezy0 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 33 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said: Aww ???? thank you for your answer i think it's useless i return to the same shop for a change in pure thai style they probably don't even recognize their mistake i must now try to find one more serious (It was the third motorbike shop i was used it seems to be very dificult to have a good one in Pattaya) Plenty of peeps on here will have a bike in Pattaya (including me) so if you find a reputable garage please tell all on TV. Cheers mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 The problem is that it says "front use only" in English, I am 99% sure they couldn't even read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said: I have passed the technic control for the renewing of my assurance and tax sticker just after the change of the tyres and nobody in the station have noticed the 2 front tyres on the bike. I don't really know what are the points controled but this control seems to be a joke. The guy at the inspection station who gave you a pass isn't the one trying to steer your bike in adverse driving conditions either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, ianezy0 said: 47 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said: Aww ???? thank you for your answer i think it's useless i return to the same shop for a change in pure thai style they probably don't even recognize their mistake i must now try to find one more serious (It was the third motorbike shop i was used it seems to be very dificult to have a good one in Pattaya) Plenty of peeps on here will have a bike in Pattaya (including me) so if you find a reputable garage please tell all on TV. Cheers mate A plethora of shonky bike riders will indeed foment a plethora of shonky bike repair shops. Since motorcycle taxi guys need their bikes for work, I suggest asking your friendly neighborhood (older) motorcycle taxi guy where he would get his wheel work done... then bung him hah-loy and let him do the needful for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 47 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said: The work has be done i month ago, i just see the notice on the tyre today. It's probably too late now. Yes, probably too late. Guess you have to buy a new rear tire, and keep the 'extra' front tire for the next front change. And while you're at it, you should buy a 80/90 for the rear (noticed that the present one is a 70/90). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said: i have recently changed the tyres on my motorbike work was done in a thai shop i have just discover now on the rear wheel it's written ''front use only'' it could be a problem (Security reasons or other) or not really just because TIT? 1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said: The work has be done i month ago, i just see the notice on the tyre today. So you have'nt noticed any handling differences or problems with the new tyre in the last 4 weeks? If not, then it's obviously fine. We are talking 16" wheels with 70/90 tyres here on a step through with 9-12 bhp. Hardly lighting the rear tyre up or getting the ABS to kick in, or trying maximum angles of lean. If it feels ok, ride it and don't worry. If it feels dodgy, and different, change it, we are not talking 1000's of Baht per tyre here. 1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said: work was done in a thai shop I think they are all Thai shops here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 35 minutes ago, Vacuum said: Yes, probably too late. Guess you have to buy a new rear tire, and keep the 'extra' front tire for the next front change. And while you're at it, you should buy a 80/90 for the rear (noticed that the present one is a 70/90). Thanks for the advice, i am going to do that we are 2 on the bike most of the time (39 and 80 kgs lol) so the security is an important thing. Also what pressure do you recommand for the tyre? (Front and rear, i presume it's not the same) The thais do with the thumb on but they seem to be nether sure about the good pressure but most of the time they charge 10 bahts for the service. On the other hand i have a PTT station not far with a self service free use for the air pressure but i need to know how much bars put inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 And as my X Thai gf once said, "make sure that there is enough wind in the tires". (can't go highway, not enough wind in tires) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said: ... I think they are all Thai shops here.... aha yes you are right it was a bit redundant in this case (Some motorbikes rent shop are running by farangs, but i am not sure if they do themselves the repairs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 38 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said: So you have'nt noticed any handling differences or problems with the new tyre in the last 4 weeks? If not, then it's obviously fine. We are talking 16" wheels with 70/90 tyres here on a step through with 9-12 bhp. Hardly lighting the rear tyre up or getting the ABS to kick in, or trying maximum angles of lean. If it feels ok, ride it and don't worry. If it feels dodgy, and different, change it, we are not talking 1000's of Baht per tyre here.... I haven't noticed a real difference nor problems but i prefer be sure rather than sorry so the better option is now to change the wheel. I paid 500 bahts\wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said: how much bars put inside 2 onthe front, 2,5 rear should be ok. You have to translate it to PSI. http://www.centauro-owners.com/articles/psibar.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vacuum said: 2 onthe front, 2,5 rear should be ok. You have to translate it to PSI. http://www.centauro-owners.com/articles/psibar.html Thank you so much 2 bar = 29 psi 2.5 bar = 36 psi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said: I have passed the technic control for the renewing of my assurance and tax sticker just after the change of the tyres and nobody in the station have noticed the 2 front tyres on the bike. I don't really know what are the points controled but this control seems to be a joke. what kinda assurance does one get for a bike?? Assured that "one will not be in an accident"???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, essox essox said: what kinda assurance does one get for a bike?? Assured that "one will not be in an accident"???? aha yes i mean the ''insurance'' (Assurance is the french word, wich i am more used to because i am french, but yes i definitively need ot do a better use of google translate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 This is just one example of why I only ever use the main dealer in town. The Honda agent in Sakon Nakhon has always delivered 1st class service. But, I STILL CHECK! It's my life on the line./ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said: Thanks for the advice, i am going to do that we are 2 on the bike most of the time (39 and 80 kgs lol) so the security is an important thing. Also what pressure do you recommand for the tyre? Bit of a contradiction there. 'Security is an important thing', followed by an admission that the O/P doesn't know his own tyre pressures. Hmm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Moonlover said: Bit of a contradiction there. 'Security is an important thing', followed by an admission that the O/P doesn't know his own tyre pressures. Hmm! Yes, you are right, nobody is perfect and i was a little bit too ''cool'' on this side i was not aware what was the good pressure to put in my bike because i was pretty confident in the thais doing that on a regular basis. But now i have seen they don't even know the difference between front tyre and rear tyre, i am becoming more wise, Better to know now than never i think, and fortunately i learn again something new everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I think the tires pictured are much too wide. When in "Rome" fit bicycle tires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: I think the tires pictured are much too wide. When in "Rome" fit bicycle tires? Too wide? Don't know if it helps but the scooter is an old Yamaha nouvo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Look. 1. unless you do burn-outs will never make a difference. 5 5 This front/rear thing derives from how the core laps where it joins. The joint could theoretically fail under super heavy braking (front) or acceleration (rear) if installed backward. So they lap opposite-ly. If a front tire is mounted on the rear, it should be mounted with the arrow pointed opposite rolling direction. Theoretically. papa researched this on inter-web and my tire guy at I-moto agrees. This was discussed here about 6-7 years ago. http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/08/23/tires-directional-arrows-explained-by-avon-tyres/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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