NHSC members who refuse to ban 3 controversial herbicides should leave the country – Deputy Agriculture Minister

[webfact]

NHSC members who refuse to ban 3 controversial herbicides should leave the country – Deputy Agriculture Minister

 

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Deputy Agriculture Minister Mananya Thaiseth has warned the 27 members of the National Hazardous Substances Committee (NHSC) to heed the public’s demand for a complete ban on paraquat, glyphosate and chlorpyrifos, or leave Thailand.

 

A vocal advocate for the complete ban on the import, sale and use of the ttoxic herbicides, Ms. Mananya said today (Monday) that she sent a full report about the substances to Agriculture Minister Chalermchai Sri-on on October 10th and expects him to receive the report in his office Tuesday.

 

She said that she would send the same report to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on Thursday after returning from a visit to Brunei and would also report that she had fulfilled his order to form a panel to study the herbicides, and the nine members of the panel agreed unanimously to vote for complete ban on the three chemicals.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/nhsc-members-who-refuse-to-ban-3-controversial-herbicides-should-leave-the-country-deputy-agriculture-minister/

 

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[whimsy]

,Ms. Mananya said today (Monday) that she sent a full report about the substances to Agriculture Minister Chalermchai Sri-on on October 10th and expects him to receive the report in his office Tuesday.
 
She said that she would send the same report to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on Thursday after returning from a visit

Maybe the Deputy Minister should try a courier or even email to speed up report distribution.

[bluesofa]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Deputy Agriculture Minister Mananya Thaiseth has warned the 27 members of the National Hazardous Substances Committee (NHSC) to heed the public’s demand for a complete ban on paraquat, glyphosate and chlorpyrifos, or leave Thailand.

It would be nice think they'd even take note of what she's getting at.

 

Edited October 14, 2019 by bluesofa
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[canuckamuck]

I'll bet she doesn't have to pull weeds in the rainy season.

[FarFlungFalang]

Well this party was elected to grow weed not kill it.

45 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

I'll bet she doesn't have to pull weeds in the rainy season.

No!Weed not ready until October.Don't want weed killer want weed to grow big and strong with big fat heads.Then she can pull all the weed cones she wants.

[ChrisY1]

Not leave the country....they should be made to go into the rice fields and spray....without PPE!

[Matzzon]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

NHSC members who refuse to ban 3 controversial herbicides should leave the country

Yeah, If you have a different opinion than me, thenyou can not stay in the country. The new effective government policy.

[RichardColeman]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Deputy Agriculture Minister Mananya Thaiseth has warned the 27 members of the National Hazardous Substances Committee (NHSC) to heed the public’s demand for a complete ban on paraquat, glyphosate and chlorpyrifos, or leave Thailand.

Not unless your envelope is bigger than the one they get already maybe

[canopy]

1 hour ago, canuckamuck said:

I'll bet she doesn't have to pull weeds in the rainy season.

There are a lot more weeds in the rainy season, but it's actually easier because the damp earth means weeds pull right out, roots and all. In the dry season there are a lot fewer but they get real tough to pull and break off. I have had workers pull weeds at my place for years and years. Never contemplated using any of these awful poisons. So I have a lot of experience for a case study. I have the workers dump all the weeds into a compost bin and the leafy greens make the most excellent potting soil. It is so satisfying to see, feel and smell this beautiful, rich jet black earth it makes. And having some old ladies from a poor village who have no chance of a job come out and make some money is very rewarding for them and for myself to see.

 

[YetAnother]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

or leave Thailand.

that is not a position based on logic, even thai logic; rather, one of stupidity

[Jimbo in Thailand]

Hmmm... where's the herbicide for pesky former illegal-coup leaders and unelected green-uniform members of parliament? Bet it would sell very well!!!  ????????????

[newatthis]

Just for interest sake:

This lady has a bachelor’s degree in the arts from Rajabhat Suan Dusit University.

What are her qualifications, experience etc in agriculture to be able to tell farmers how they are to grow their crop?

The missus and I have a rai for our little bit of hobby farming with manures, composting, no chemicals etc, etc with reasonable success.

But, there's no way in the world  that I would go and tell farmers what to do.

As for the public wanting the ban, where are the figures showing that the majority of Thais want the ban? Not posters here on TVFs, but Thais.

[canuckamuck]

2 hours ago, canopy said:

There are a lot more weeds in the rainy season, but it's actually easier because the damp earth means weeds pull right out, roots and all. In the dry season there are a lot fewer but they get real tough to pull and break off. I have had workers pull weeds at my place for years and years. Never contemplated using any of these awful poisons. So I have a lot of experience for a case study. I have the workers dump all the weeds into a compost bin and the leafy greens make the most excellent potting soil. It is so satisfying to see, feel and smell this beautiful, rich jet black earth it makes. And having some old ladies from a poor village who have no chance of a job come out and make some money is very rewarding for them and for myself to see.

 

I would have the same story, except workers are hard to get, and we have about 20 rai, nearly all of it hillside, which is pretty hard to manage by hand. We just about manged to get away without spray this year. We will try again next year.

 

[farmerjo]

13 minutes ago, newatthis said:

This lady has a bachelor’s degree in the arts from Rajabhat Suan Dusit University.

And most likely thinks milk comes from a carton.

[MaxLee]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

She said that she would send the same report to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on Thursday after returning from a visit to Brunei....

The dear PM wouldn't even budge reading, Miss... so sorry.

[PatOngo]

35 minutes ago, newatthis said:

This lady has a bachelor’s degree in the arts from Rajabhat Suan Dusit University.

She also has a nice, expensive looking watch too!

[canopy]

32 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

I would have the same story, except workers are hard to get, and we have about 20 rai, nearly all of it hillside, which is pretty hard to manage by hand. We just about manged to get away without spray this year. We will try again next year.

You are right, workers are hard to get. It can take a lot to solve this especially for an expat to figure out: paying enough, broadening your search, knowing people, language, etc. My advice is don't be discouraged, try until you succeed.

 

For an area of that size or really of any size, a ground cover can be extremely valuable in many ways. I like perennial peanut. It never needs mowed or fertilized and can take foot traffic and stays nice and low. It can be watered in the dry season to be lush all year round or if not will go dormant in the dry season but snap right back instantly when the rains return. It has a good root structure which will help hold a hillside and prevent any erosion. The small yellow flower is attractive and an area with perennial peanut will attract a lot of different wildlife. Best of all, it makes a thick cover and that keeps most weeds out. The few weeds that pop up can be pulled quickly.

 

Preparation and planting is also a piece of cake. Find someone that has some and they will likely let you trim the tops off completely free as many as you need. Get a bundle of them and stick them directly in the ground at the beginning of the rainy season on 20cm centers. No need to kill the weeds before planting. Just keep it mowed after planting maybe once a month until the perennial peanut wins out which it slowly, surely will do until you have a nice, beautiful hillside that is easy to take care of and never needs a bit of poisoning ever again.

 

 

[Chazar]

4 hours ago, canopy said:

There are a lot more weeds in the rainy season, but it's actually easier because the damp earth means weeds pull right out, roots and all. In the dry season there are a lot fewer but they get real tough to pull and break off. I have had workers pull weeds at my place for years and years. Never contemplated using any of these awful poisons. So I have a lot of experience for a case study. I have the workers dump all the weeds into a compost bin and the leafy greens make the most excellent potting soil. It is so satisfying to see, feel and smell this beautiful, rich jet black earth it makes. And having some old ladies from a poor village who have no chance of a job come out and make some money is very rewarding for them and for myself to see.

 

all  well and  good  but  they are  just  too  lazy  round here.

[Chazar]

7 minutes ago, canopy said:

try until you succeed.

7  years  trying............so  far

[canuckamuck]

10 minutes ago, canopy said:

You are right, workers are hard to get. It can take a lot to solve this especially for an expat to figure out: paying enough, broadening your search, knowing people, language, etc. My advice is don't be discouraged, try until you succeed.

 

For an area of that size or really of any size, a ground cover can be extremely valuable in many ways. I like perennial peanut. It never needs mowed or fertilized and can take foot traffic and stays nice and low. It can be watered in the dry season to be lush all year round or if not will go dormant in the dry season but snap right back instantly when the rains return. It has a good root structure which will help hold a hillside and prevent any erosion. The small yellow flower is attractive and an area with perennial peanut will attract a lot of different wildlife. Best of all, it makes a thick cover and that keeps most weeds out. The few weeds that pop up can be pulled quickly.

 

Preparation and planting is also a piece of cake. Find someone that has some and they will likely let you trim the tops off completely free as many as you need. Get a bundle of them and stick them directly in the ground at the beginning of the rainy season on 20cm centers. No need to kill the weeds before planting. Just keep it mowed after planting maybe once a month until the perennial peanut wins out which it slowly, surely will do until you have a nice, beautiful hillside that is easy to take care of and never needs a bit of poisoning ever again.

 

 

I will definitely give that a try.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 hours ago, Jimbo in Thailand said:

Hmmm... where's the herbicide for pesky former illegal-coup leaders and unelected green-uniform members of parliament? Bet it would sell very well!!!  ????????????

 

That's the thing about weeds... You pull them out, but then later, they keep coming back and back and back again.... You may get the growing weed, but the seeds are in the ground, and keep on sprouting....perpetually here, it would seem.

 

[from the home of CC]

5 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Yeah, If you have a different opinion than me, thenyou can not stay in the country. The new effective government policy.

Her aims are admirable for these substances have been proven to cause harm. But the effectiveness of her message is lost with the drama queen statements..

[Matzzon]

3 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

Her aims are admirable for these substances have been proven to cause harm. But the effectiveness of her message is lost with the drama queen statements..

I agree. They should be banned, but they must learn to agree to disagree without idiotic ideas.

[DrTuner]

10 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

Unfortunately most meat is not pasture raised and contribute to desertification. 

Yeah. Too many humans eating them and encroaching on the pastures. We're a pestilence.

[metisdead]

Off topic posts and the off topic replies have been removed. 

[Dap]

6 hours ago, canopy said:

You are right, workers are hard to get. It can take a lot to solve this especially for an expat to figure out: paying enough, broadening your search, knowing people, language, etc. My advice is don't be discouraged, try until you succeed.

 

For an area of that size or really of any size, a ground cover can be extremely valuable in many ways. I like perennial peanut. It never needs mowed or fertilized and can take foot traffic and stays nice and low. It can be watered in the dry season to be lush all year round or if not will go dormant in the dry season but snap right back instantly when the rains return. It has a good root structure which will help hold a hillside and prevent any erosion. The small yellow flower is attractive and an area with perennial peanut will attract a lot of different wildlife. Best of all, it makes a thick cover and that keeps most weeds out. The few weeds that pop up can be pulled quickly.

 

Preparation and planting is also a piece of cake. Find someone that has some and they will likely let you trim the tops off completely free as many as you need. Get a bundle of them and stick them directly in the ground at the beginning of the rainy season on 20cm centers. No need to kill the weeds before planting. Just keep it mowed after planting maybe once a month until the perennial peanut wins out which it slowly, surely will do until you have a nice, beautiful hillside that is easy to take care of and never needs a bit of poisoning ever again.

 

 

Great information! Thank you very much.

 

[billd766]

10 hours ago, Jimbo in Thailand said:

Hmmm... where's the herbicide for pesky former illegal-coup leaders and unelected green-uniform members of parliament? Bet it would sell very well!!!  ????????????

But you will need lots of it and daily applications to shift that lot.

[ICELANDMAN]

 

This Thai lady prove she have the balls

 

 

[farmerjo]

FYI,who the committee is made up of for tuesdays vote.

http://The organizational structure of the NHSC has been adjusted according to the amended Hazard Substances Act. The NHSC is chaired by the Industry Minister, Suriya Jungrungreangkit. The committee comprises 27 members from different sectors, including Permanent Secretaries for industry, agriculture and cooperatives, energy and public health as well as heads of the Department of Agriculture, the Department of Fisheries, the Department of Livestock Development, the Pollution Control Department, the Department of Energy Business, the Department of Land Transport, the Marine Department and the Customs Department. The committee is also joined by experts in chemistry, science, engineering and agriculture and representatives from the Ministry of Defense, the Royal Thai Police and the Office of Atoms for Peace (OAP). The members oversee issues relating to public health, consumer protection, sustainable agriculture and ways to protect the environment from hazardous substances.

[Aussie999]

14 hours ago, ICELANDMAN said:

 

This Thai lady prove she have the balls

 

 

"Balls" but no brains.... what a childish thing to say...if you don't agree, with me, then you should leave the country.... oh, wait, some Thaivisa commenters say the same thing, damn, the disease is spreading.