Boy, 13, shot dead by police after father U-turns at northern Thai checkpoint

[Chongalulu]

1 hour ago, cardinalblue said:

Alcohol is a drug....

 

the father initiated the whole chain of events.....

Do you understand the concept of proportionality? The shooter didn’t and this was the result 

[helloagain]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

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Any off topic and/or insensitive posts will be removed without warning and could result in those who made the posts being banned from the site. 

 

/Admin

No point in saying anything then, self censorship 

[Dogmatix]

6 hours ago, Just1Voice said:

sad for the boy. but how does a shot fired at a back tire (low target) end up going through the back of the cab (high target). Vert bad shooting, or shooter is lying. 

I don't know what the policeman was aiming from - car window, back of pick-up, back of motor cycle - but I would say that the police should not take a shot from a moving vehicle at another moving vehicle at all unless they have a clear shot and shooting the suspect's vehicle is truly justified, e.g. the suspect is known to be armed and dangerous. It turns out that this boy was killed for just a  few bottles of moonshine hooch.  

 

Anyway I think we can be pretty sure the policeman is lying.  All Thai police, except some specialised firearms units, are very poor shots with their handguns.  They get little or no training which is impractical anyway, since there is no standard issue firearms and cops buy and carry whatever gun they fancy. They have to buy their own ammo for practice in Thailand which is expensive and practice with low power practice ammo to save money,  which means they are unprepared for the recoil of full power ammo carried on duty.  A rear tyre of a moving vehicle from another moving vehicle in the dark is too hard a target for such poor shooters to even consider.  Although he may not have been aiming specifically at the rear windscreen or the occupants, we can be pretty sure he would have been aiming at the mass of the truck or its cab which gave him the best chance of stopping it, rather than shooting at the road under it.     

[RJRS1301]

RIP young man

Both the police and your father should be held accountable for your death

Police need training and better understanding on how to disable a vehicle, and supplied with the equipment to do so.

Police having to buy their own equipment is unacceptable under any circumstances.

 

[Chongalulu]

41 minutes ago, Chiang Mai Bill said:

Lots of comments criticising the police action and marksmanship -- even giving the responsible person the death penalty!  Obviously stingers and tazers would help in many cases but wouldn't in this case.

 

Thailand is a large third-world country. The police are only semi-trained and buying their own ammunition is not conducive to any firearms practice!  The Law allows them to carry guns, the Law allows them to fire their weapons without seeking permission.  The blame should be on the Law rather than the policeman who unwisely shot poorly from a moving vehicle!  And in Thailand the Law ain't gonna change!

While not disagreeing with your central point,Thailand is not a third world country, it’s in the top 30 by GDP - which only puts its low priorities of properly training their police in an even worse light.

[Dogmatix]

5 hours ago, Tayaout said:

From the video I've seen it seems that 99% of the time they only need to follow the car. After a couple minutes the car eventually hit something and stop by itself. They could use the new attack helicopter for that purpose. 

You'd have thought they could radio their colleagues to set up road blocks on surrounding roads and maybe follow with a helicopter, if one is available in working order.

[keysersoze276]

This is like something out of the Chicago Tribune or Atlanta Times. 

[dluek]

Sounds more like a US news story. Very sad, police should not shoot unless someone is shooting at them. 

[sawadee1947]

6 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

Unless someone shot at the police they should have never fired on the truck no matter what they were thinking it was.  The one who killed the kid needs to get the death sentence.

Years ago I saw police chasing a pick up in the mountains trying to stop him. 

Then they were shooting. 5 people dead at the scene. Car destroyed. 

On the pick up drugs and alcohol. 

In this case the father should have not try to escape. Maybe just bribe them instead of risking his and his son's life. Even jail would have been better than to see your son dead at your side. ????

[marqus12]

They set up so many roadblocks I'm not surprised that people do a u-turn.

 

Edited October 16, 2019 by marqus12

[canuckamuck]

If the article is to be believed the truck had already crashed and was no longer moving.

There is no way someone is shooting at a back tire of a pickup and gets the back window instead.

even the worst shooter couldn't miss by that much. 

[mikeymike100]

So will the 'cop' that shot the poor boy face any disciplanary action, or just end up paying money to the family?? If that??

[ujayujay]

6 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

Unless someone shot at the police they should have never fired on the truck no matter what they were thinking it was.  The one who killed the kid needs to get the death sentence.

Why you dont blame the Father of the victim!? It was his fault!

[IAMHERE]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

A chase ensued and after the pick-up hit a plough near an intersection a shot was fired

I read this to say the police shot after the truck crashed. The picture shows the truck may have taken a good hit when it hit the plough. Why shoot at a truck that has already crashed?

[cardinalblue]

When you run from the police, bad things happen.....

 

stupid father....thinking ONLY of himself....and he pays the price for it

 

He should be charged with evading police and causing loss of life.

[sanemax]

Just now, cardinalblue said:

When you run from the police, bad things happen.....

 

stupid father....thinking ONLY of himself....and he pays the price for it

 

He should be charged with evading police and causing loss of life.

Persons who evade the Police should be arrested and prosecuted .

If a person evades the Police, that doesnt give the Police the right or legality to murder them .

  If it turns out that the Police deliberately shot the boy for no reason, the Policeman should face murder charges 

[Lacessit]

I don't know which is worse. A father taking his child along while engaging in unlawful activity, or poorly-trained trigger-happy police.

A young life snuffed out by lack of care. RIP.

[rossco1]

R.I.P a young life taken away way too soon

an investigation needs to be taken and the Officer bullet should be charged

for discharging a weapon when there was no need to 

charges need and should happen 

[atyclb]

father should never have had an innocent in the vehicle while knowingly transporting contraband. what the police did is another matter subject to debate

[Catoni]

6 hours ago, Grumpy John said:

Lack of firearms training I am afraid.  The police have to buy there own ammo so many are reluctant to do regular training.  Only a year or so back a video was taken of a Pattaya cop unloading his magazine in an attempt to  blow out the tyres on a car.  This was on Beach Rd outside Soi 9 police station with a lot of bystanders around.  In this latest case of cowboy cops,  Sadly, the young boy will never get to experience life.  

“The police have to buy there [sic] own ammo...” 

  Well if they have to buy their own ammo, they might be buying the very cheapest, very poorly made, bad quality ammo. And that can cause more problems. 

[ttrd]

6 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

Police thought they were chasing a drug dealer. 

 

   RIP, little boy. 

 

    

Yea, a sad result of shoot first and then ask principle ....

 

Something to keep in mind when you are in a hurry and you suddenly remember that you forgot Your wallet at home ...

 

RIP

 

 

[thhMan]

The police "THOUGHT" they where drug smugglers...

 

Ive done it a few times in my life, not for being over the limit, having anything illegal on me, but rather to avoid the hassle...

I guess that technically, using their form of reasoning,  they could have shot at me too, if they "thought" I was a drug smuggler

[stropper]

7 hours ago, Just1Voice said:

sad for the boy. but how does a shot fired at a back tire (low target) end up going through the back of the cab (high target). Vert bad shooting, or shooter is lying. 

apparently you have never been in charge of a weapon, what do you think happens as you go over bumpy roads in a pursuit, lucky it was  not a machine gun !

[revup]

7 hours ago, steven100 said:

poor boy …. nothing to do with him, just in the wrong place at the wrong time. His father can live with that shame for the rest of his life ….

RIP young man, you will be loved always.

<deleted> the father was not shooting at shadows

[GalaxyMan]

7 hours ago, Just1Voice said:

sad for the boy. but how does a shot fired at a back tire (low target) end up going through the back of the cab (high target). Vert bad shooting, or shooter is lying. 

You must be joking. Your post implies competence on the part of the police.

[Elzear]

Other than expressing my sorrow for this child, I cannot fathom the absolute incompetence of the law enforcement agencies of this country of smiles. This country is another world unto itself, living on some sort of cloud of denial, run by a kafkaesque administration. It is better not to try to understand it unless one wants to finish in the cuckoo’s nest.

RIP

[Speedhump]

I don't have the words to express my disgust at this trigger-happy moron. Or my anger at the bootlegger pressing his child into this situation in the first place. A young life with all its hopeful potential was lost for no reason at all beyond utter stupidity and thoughtlessness. Many humans are no better than base animals, all over the world. And it will always be so. ????

[canuckamuck]

14 minutes ago, stropper said:

apparently you have never been in charge of a weapon, what do you think happens as you go over bumpy roads in a pursuit, lucky it was  not a machine gun !

The truck had already crashed. Either legendary bad shooting or lying about they were shooting at. I know which one I favor

[windas]

And the large quantity of moonshine booze with all the harmful ingredient's that the father had intended to distribute, would have probably killed even more people.

[miamiman123]

Shooting at the truck by police??? Jesus Christ what’s wrong with these fools? 
my God so sad