American boxer Day dies following brutal knockout

[JonnyF]

2 hours ago, overherebc said:

So if one gets a cut eye then in order not to hurt him more his opponent will no longer concentrate on that cut eye so he has retire?

No different to Rugby. If the team knows one of the opposition is key to the success of that team they will often target him with massive hits in the first 20 minutes, trying to remove him from the game. Normally it's done legally (but they're still trying to hurt him) but occasionally it's done illegally like the spear tackle on O'Driscoll in the 2005 Lions tour. 

 

It's a contact sport and yes, people do try and hurt each other.

[stevenl]

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

No different to Rugby. If the team knows one of the opposition is key to the success of that team they will often target him with massive hits in the first 20 minutes, trying to remove him from the game. Normally it's done legally (but they're still trying to hurt him) but occasionally it's done illegally like the spear tackle on O'Driscoll in the 2005 Lions tour. 

 

It's a contact sport and yes, people do try and hurt each other.

Very different to rugby. Many examples have already been given, sorry to see you don't understand.

 

I am convinced that the present climate will change professional boxing, and in the present form it will sooner or later be outlawed.

[Elkski]

I've always thought the sports were very stupid but they are entertaining to watch sometimes but I say they should be changed.   Measure yourself against the robot Defender pretty soon we will have robots that can box just like a man go up Against the Machine and measure your skills without hurting another one if you wish. Play Against the Machine set to kill or stun you choose. If you think martial arts is the only way to save people from a bad life you're screwed up in the head

[jany123]

???? What amazes me, when reading the thread, is that posters seem to follow the same groupings as when discussing the trump.

 

the thugs who support boxing, support the trump. Perhaps off topic, but a curious observation none the less.... and I’m sure there’s a logical explanation 

[rgraham]

Shocking, how could someone who gets repeatedly beaten about the head die from a brain injury? What a great sport.

[overherebc]

10 minutes ago, rgraham said:

Shocking, how could someone who gets repeatedly beaten about the head die from a brain injury? What a great sport.

I reckon it's on the same lines as     hasn't got the sense to come in out of the rain.

[Orton Rd]

watched an aljazeera film yesterday about 9 year old Thai kids getting brain damage from Muay Thai. Nine year olds were smashing each other about while the adults were betting on them, should be illegal

[Gillyflower]

When I was a child in Sydney, the police had a boxing club for  boys in Newtown (dangerous place). It kept many a lad off the street.  I wonder if it still exists.

[JulesMad]

Hey, don't play deadly sports if you don't accept the risks

Pingpong and chess are pretty safe...

[sanemax]

5 hours ago, jany123 said:

???? What amazes me, when reading the thread, is that posters seem to follow the same groupings as when discussing the trump.

 

the thugs who support boxing, support the trump. Perhaps off topic, but a curious observation none the less.... and I’m sure there’s a logical explanation 

What amazes me , anti Trump people keep going on about him in every thread and cannot stop mentioning him and use every and any opportunity to mention him or his supporters in a disparaging way

[bendejo]

6 hours ago, rgraham said:

Shocking, how could someone who gets repeatedly beaten about the head die from a brain injury? What a great sport.

I reckon something worse than dying of brain injury is living with brain injury.  I've been saying all along that Colin Kaepernick should count his blessings, perhaps somebody up there likes him -- his good intentions are being rewarded.

 

 

[Briggsy]

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Very sad. Saw a few interviews with him in the build up to the fight and he seemed like a genuinely nice guy.

 

As for the sport, boxing does way more good than it does bad. It turns around many troubled individuals and deaths in the ring are fortunately very rare these days. Injury is a part of many sports and death happens in many sports as well. No reason to call the sport of boxing into question IMO.  

Bring back duelling.

[RichardColeman]

11 hours ago, Matzzon said:

They actually tries to knock each other out as clean as possible for minimum damage.

Any chance you could expand on knock someone out without damaging them ? 

[Matzzon]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Any chance you could expand on knock someone out without damaging them ? 

If you read the sentence you quoted. It stood minimum damage. Not that you knock out somebody without damage. Nex time, feel free to quote the post without changing the meaning of it at the same time. Thank you! ???? 

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

If you read the sentence you quoted. It stood minimum damage. Not that you knock out somebody without damage. Nex time, feel free to quote the post without changing the meaning of it at the same time. Thank you! ???? 

Not boxing, but Rico Verhoeven just declared about his sport 'when you're standing there, all you want to do is tear him (your opponent) apart'.

[Matzzon]

31 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Not boxing, but Rico Verhoeven just declared about his sport 'when you're standing there, all you want to do is tear him (your opponent) apart'.

They say all to maintain the image of the most feared fighter in their sport. Do you believe everything they say in politics too?

[camble]

RIP

 

[stevenl]

10 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

They say all to maintain the image of the most feared fighter in their sport. Do you believe everything they say in politics too?

Of course mate, of course.

[Matzzon]

5 minutes ago, car720 said:

calling me a minority tells everyone here just what they need to know.

When did I call you a minority. What I did say was that you have an regarding this thread that belongs to a minority. It looks like too many people on this forum have a hard time understanding what they read.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

When did I call you a minority. What I did say was that you have an regarding this thread that belongs to a minority. It looks like too many people on this forum have a hard time understanding what they read.

Or is it perhaps what you write.....????

[Matzzon]

11 minutes ago, car720 said:

Has anyone ever met a pug that wasn't a thug?

Yes

[Chomper Higgot]

15 hours ago, transam said:

Sad the guy lost his life.

Boxing, cage fighting etc are contact sports where the aim is to render their opponent  helpless. They know the risks.

I’m quite certain of something, young men might know of the risks, but they certainly do not understand them.

 

15 hours ago, transam said:

It can be a nice earner for some...

A very tiny number of boxers make a living out of the sport.

 

And take note, the kids and young men who take up boxing are not the children of the wealthy.

 

In reality, young men with few if any other options in life, taking risks they certainly do not understand with their health and life, in the hope of making a living out of the immensely profitable gambling industry around boxing.

[Matzzon]

8 minutes ago, car720 said:

and it also seems that some cannot remember what they have written previously.

Still related to the thread and of course means that you belong to a minority. You should now that a person can not be a minority but only belong to one.

 

11 minutes ago, car720 said:

Perhaps this is the result of being hit around the head too much.

A lot of guts behind the keybord. In that case you belong to a vast majority, that would suddenly become very quiet when saying that directly to a person. Forgive me if I laugh. ????????????

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Still related to the thread and of course means that you belong to a minority. You should now that a person can not be a minority but only belong to one.

 

A lot of guts behind the keybord. In that case you belong to a vast majority, that would suddenly become very quiet when saying that directly to a person. Forgive me if I laugh. ????????????

Do you have anything to say about the topic under discussion?

[Matzzon]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Do you have anything to say about the topic under discussion?

I have said my opinion, but as long as people post comments. Yeah, then I guess I have the right to reply.

[stevenl]

14 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

I have said my opinion, but as long as people post comments. Yeah, then I guess I have the right to reply.

Unfortunately it seems you can not comprehend the reasons for any criticism and don't understand the posts made.

[bannork]

13 hours ago, jany123 said:

???? What amazes me, when reading the thread, is that posters seem to follow the same groupings as when discussing the trump.

 

the thugs who support boxing, support the trump. Perhaps off topic, but a curious observation none the less.... and I’m sure there’s a logical explanation 

The rational explanation is both the boxing supporters and Trump are brain damaged.

[JonnyF]

15 hours ago, stevenl said:

Very different to rugby. Many examples have already been given, sorry to see you don't understand.

 

I am convinced that the present climate will change professional boxing, and in the present form it will sooner or later be outlawed.

Yeah let's ban it and send it underground where it's much less regulated and hence much riskier. Great idea. 

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Yeah let's ban it and send it underground where it's much less regulated and hence much riskier. Great idea. 

Who said that? 

I think e.g. head protection will become mandatory also at professional level.

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Who said that? 

I think e.g. head protection will become mandatory also at professional level.

Well you said "outlawed", I said "banned". Same thing is it not?

 

Head protection is not the craziest idea, but it would certainly make the sport less of a spectacle. You could also make them wear 20 ounce gloves but if there comes a point where a fighter can't break down his opponent over the course of 12 rounds then the sport will have fundamentally changed. These deaths are incredibly sad but also pretty rare when you consider the number of contests around the world each year.

 

An old school friend of mine has run a boxing gym for over 20 years and it's incredible to see the good that the sport does for people in terms of fitness, discipline, confidence etc. The sport does way more good than bad, but I'm all for reducing injuries if it can be done in a way that leaves the essence of the sport intact.