Two UK political parties to try to trigger December 9 election

[rooster59]

Two UK political parties to try to trigger December 9 election

 

A Union Jack flag flutters next to EU flags outside the Houses of Parliament in London, Britain, October 21, 2019. REUTERS/Hannah McKay

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Two of Britain’s smaller political parties have joined forces to try to trigger a Dec. 9 election and have written to Donald Tusk, the president of the European Council, to ask for a delay to Brexit to hold it.

 

In a letter the Scottish National Party and the Liberal Democrats, both big supporters of remaining in the European Union, asked Tusk to agree to a Brexit extension until Jan. 31.

 

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has proposed holding an election on Dec. 12 and needs two thirds of the 650 lawmakers in parliament to back his plan in a vote on Monday.

 

As part of Johnson’s proposal, lawmakers will have more time to debate and pass his Brexit withdrawal deal if they agree to hold an election.

 

Most opposition parties including the SNP and Liberal Democrats have opposed this idea but the two parties signaled on Saturday they could back a December election if it was separated from the Brexit legislation.

 

“We believe this is the only way to unlock what has become a deadlocked Parliament and to enable the UK and the EU to move forward - whatever form that takes,” they said. Media reports said they favored a Dec. 9 election.

 

The main opposition Labour Party has said it will back an election once the risk of a potentially chaotic no-deal Brexit has been ruled out but the party is divided as it trails Johnson’s Conservatives in opinion polls.

 

Britain is due to leave the world’s biggest trading bloc on Oct. 31 but parliament has passed a bill forcing it to secure a delay to prevent the country from leaving without a deal to smooth the process.

 

Reporting by Kate Holton; Editing by Sandra Maler

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-10-27

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[baansgr]

Yawn.....wake me up in five years when its sorted

[steve187]

17 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Yawn.....wake me up in five years when its sorted

only 5 years!!

[bluesofa]

1 hour ago, steve187 said:

2 hours ago, baansgr said:

Yawn.....wake me up in five years when its sorted

only 5 years!!

Obviously an optimist.

[nauseus]

It seems fashionable in the HoC now to require that conditions are attached to any vote. Hopeless. 

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, baansgr said:

Yawn.....wake me up in five years when its sorted

 

Optimist!

[jesimps]

So if the leave-supporting Tories win the election, I suppose the remainers and opposition parties will start looking for ways for the supreme court and the Lords to snuff out any pro Brexit moves. Maybe even try and force a second "Peoples" election.

[BritManToo]

8 minutes ago, jesimps said:

So if the leave-supporting Tories win the election, I suppose the remainers and opposition parties will start looking for ways for the supreme court and the Lords to snuff out any pro Brexit moves. Maybe even try and force a second "Peoples" election.

It'll be a Tory/Brexit party coalition.

The Tories will fight all the seats that voted leave, Brexit will fight the deselected remainer Tory seats and many of the others.

[steve187]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

It seems fashionable in the HoC now to require that conditions are attached to any vote. Hopeless. 

you missed a word at the end, 'fools'

[smedly]

6 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Two UK political parties to try to trigger December 9 election

I am surprised SNP and LIBDEM didn't ask him for permission to hold an election lol

 

After all the head of the EU commission is their defacto leader if they got their way and the UK remained in the EU

[soalbundy]

7 minutes ago, smedly said:

I am surprised SNP and LIBDEM didn't ask him for permission to hold an election lol

 

After all the head of the EU commission is their defacto leader if they got their way and the UK remained in the EU

You read that in the Daily Express did you ? or was it all your own idea.

[nauseus]

38 minutes ago, steve187 said:

you missed a word at the end, 'fools'

my bad

[OneMoreFarang]

A couple of days ago I read and interesting comment about that. It was similar to this:

What they talk about are general elections, GENERAL is the important word here.

But would those elections be general or would they be basically only about Brexit?

 

Boris wasted lots of time. And then he wanted to pull his Brexit through within days and without thinking parliament. And now he "paused" that.

Why does he not continue? Does it really matter if the UK leaves end of October of middle of November?

Or is Boris just scarred that parliament and voters have the time to look at the details of his "great deal"?

 

If he wants confirmation then he should arrange a vote. Ask the people if they want his Brexit deal. Yes or no? If no, then stay in the EU. Just do it!

 

And after that is settled then have a general election which will be a GENERAL election and not only about Brexit.

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

It'll be a Tory/Brexit party coalition.

The Tories will fight all the seats that voted leave, Brexit will fight the deselected remainer Tory seats and many of the others.

The Tories lose any credibility if we're still in after 11pm thurs and can expect to be duly annihilated.

[puipuitom]

52 minutes ago, smedly said:

I am surprised SNP and LIBDEM didn't ask him for permission to hold an election lol

 

After all the head of the EU commission is their defacto leader if they got their way and the UK remained in the EU

Again a Brit, who does not have the slightest idea, how the EU functions - after being in as member state nearly 50 years- , NOR is able to read.

a) Tusk is president of the EU Council, existing of the heads of government of the EU member states. This is the ONLY committee able to make decisions, like: extension of membership of an EU country, who triggered art 50 to leave the EU.

b) the EU Commission, with as president Juncker, is a kind of committee of MINISTERS, and do not have anything to decide as to follow up orders from the EU Council

c) the LibDem and SNP asked Tusk for an extension, a question only the GOVERNMENT of an EU member state can do.

 

asked Tusk to agree to a Brexit extension until Jan. 31.

[smedly]

11 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Again a Brit, who does not have the slightest idea

I do and that is why we are leaving 

 

Netherlands are stuck there because they couldn't stand alone or support themselves, up to you and if that works then no problem lol  

[SheungWan]

It seems fashionable in the HoC now to require that conditions are attached to any vote. Hopeless. 

Nothing to do with fashion, more to do with Boris Johnson being untrustworthy and conditions being necessarily specified in HoC to tie him down.

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[SheungWan]

So if the leave-supporting Tories win the election, I suppose the remainers and opposition parties will start looking for ways for the supreme court and the Lords to snuff out any pro Brexit moves. Maybe even try and force a second "Peoples" election.

You need to get an election first. So sorry.

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[SheungWan]

I am surprised SNP and LIBDEM didn't ask him for permission to hold an election lol
 
After all the head of the EU commission is their defacto leader if they got their way and the UK remained in the EU

Yet to meet a Hard Brexiteer who understands either de facto or de jure.

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[SheungWan]

I do and that is why we are leaving 
 
Netherlands are stuck there because they couldn't stand alone or support themselves, up to you and if that works then no problem lol  

Presumably on October 31.

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[SheungWan]

The Tories lose any credibility if we're still in after 11pm thurs and can expect to be duly annihilated.

We're all turning into pumpkins on Nov 1 according to Brexit Party supporters.

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[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, puipuitom said:

Again a Brit, who does not have the slightest idea, how the EU functions - after being in as member state nearly 50 years- , NOR is able to read.

a) Tusk is president of the EU Council, existing of the heads of government of the EU member states. This is the ONLY committee able to make decisions, like: extension of membership of an EU country, who triggered art 50 to leave the EU.

b) the EU Commission, with as president Juncker, is a kind of committee of MINISTERS, and do not have anything to decide as to follow up orders from the EU Council

c) the LibDem and SNP asked Tusk for an extension, a question only the GOVERNMENT of an EU member state can do.

 

 

asked Tusk to agree to a Brexit extension until Jan. 31.

Now how many Brits who didn't understand the basics up to now do you think will be convinced after your post? ???? 

[OneMoreFarang]

[Nigel Garvie]

8 hours ago, baansgr said:

Yawn.....wake me up in five years when its sorted

I'll have a gold one please!

 

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, puipuitom said:

Again a Brit, who does not have the slightest idea, how the EU functions - after being in as member state nearly 50 years- , NOR is able to read.

a) Tusk is president of the EU Council, existing of the heads of government of the EU member states. This is the ONLY committee able to make decisions, like: extension of membership of an EU country, who triggered art 50 to leave the EU.

b) the EU Commission, with as president Juncker, is a kind of committee of MINISTERS, and do not have anything to decide as to follow up orders from the EU Council

c) the LibDem and SNP asked Tusk for an extension, a question only the GOVERNMENT of an EU member state can do.

 

 

asked Tusk to agree to a Brexit extension until Jan. 31.

Looks like the "Brit" is not the one who does not have the slightest idea, how the EU functions, especially the Commission.

[Thingamabob]

The support for Boris in throughout most of the UK is incredibly high although never reported by the broadcast media. Landslide win for the Tories highly likely whenever an election takes place.

[JAG]

55 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

The support for Boris in throughout most of the UK is incredibly high although never reported by the broadcast media. Landslide win for the Tories highly likely whenever an election takes place.

Which is why May 2022 is looking likely!

 

Labour know that they have to make themselves electable, and the Tory rebels have to work out how to keep their seats somehow. Both tasks are going to need all that time, and more!

Edited October 27, 2019 by JAG

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

The support for Boris in throughout most of the UK is incredibly high although never reported by the broadcast media. Landslide win for the Tories highly likely whenever an election takes place.

When you say 'most of the UK', do you mean by population or geography?

 

Majority of Scots are ‘dismayed’ at Boris Johnson becoming Prime Minister

"...the YouGov survey showed just 15 per cent of Scots were “delighted” or “pleased” with the result — while a huge 54 per cent were “dismayed”."

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, smedly said:

I do and that is why we are leaving 

 

Netherlands are stuck there because they couldn't stand alone or support themselves, up to you and if that works then no problem lol  

British exceptionalism raises self deceiving head.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

The support for Boris in throughout most of the UK is incredibly high although never reported by the broadcast media. Landslide win for the Tories highly likely whenever an election takes place.

How do you know this support you refer to is ‘incredibly high’ of its not reported?

 

Is this some superman power of perception or are you making stuff up?