Thanathorn asks judges if they want Thailand trapped in cycle of coups and civilian rule

[rooster59]

Thanathorn asks judges if they want Thailand trapped in cycle of coups and civilian rule

 

 

Future Forward party leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit has asked Constitution Court judges if they want to see Thailand trapped in a vicious cycle of civilian government and military rule, or to move forward to real democracy.

 

The question was raised in his written closing statement, in defense of his media shareholding case, submitted to the Constitutional Court on Thursday and disclosed to the media today by Thanathorn.

 

In the statement, the embattled Future Forward party leader insisted that the V Luck Media Company, in which he once held a substantial stake, had ceased operation on November 26th last year, before the Royal Decree on January 23rd this year announcing the March 24th general election.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thanathorn-asks-judges-if-they-want-thailand-trapped-in-cycle-of-coups-and-civilian-rule/

 

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[Eligius]

The obvious - blindingly obvious - answer to Thanathorn's question as to whether the Authorities want continued coups and non-democracy - is YES, OF COURSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT!

 

Edited November 16, 2019 by Eligius

[z42]

As the judges seem to like how things are in the current state, I imagine they care not 1 iota about any meaningful change.

Business as usual will work just fine in their eyes. Even when Thanathorn is nailed he will hopefully have planted a seed that somebody else who might be of a virtuous persuasion will fill the void.

 

The fact this case is even being pursued is pretty absurd really.

[mfd101]

Change will come, because of modern technology and the modernizing economy which requires better educated & more competent work slaves.

 

Come back in 50 years and things will be vastly improved ...

[robblok]

Itlooks like he has a solid case a lawyer was present at share transfer and the company company ceised to operate long before that.

 

But you never know how bias the judges are and if he can prove it all 100% 

 

I root for him but im sure the junta is putting pressure om judges.

 

Lets hope they are honest.

[Denim]

Thanathorn was later seen leaving the building :

 

 

 

[Assurancetourix]

24 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

Come back in 50 years and things will be vastly improved ...

In less than 50 years, Thailand will become a Chinese province, as Laos and Cambodia are already almost completely.

[thequietman]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Lets hope they are honest

????

[leeneeds]

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

has asked Constitution Court judges if they want to see Thailand trapped in a vicious cycle of civilian government and military rule, or to move forward to real democracy.

Judges can not answer that question,

personal opinion is not warranted, 

ceasing operation by the due date or not, is the only question we would like to know the ruling on.

[mok199]

Another cycle,in a Nation spinning out of control....

Edited November 16, 2019 by mok199

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, leeneeds said:

Judges can not answer that question,

personal opinion is not warranted, 

ceasing operation by the due date or not, is the only question we would like to know the ruling on.

Judges should find according to the written law which should be written carefully so that there is no ambiguity or possibility of misinterpretation by cops, prosecutors, lawyers, judges etc. and the underlying intent of that law, and based on presented facts.

 

However is this case I support Khun Thanathorn making his comment as a strong reminder to the judges how they should proceed as above. Surely there is a case to say that such reminders will, hopefully, encourage / push judges to make decisions the proper way.

 

Can't hurt his case, hopefully.

 

Edited November 16, 2019 by scorecard

[leeneeds]

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

Can't hurt his case, hopefully.

Hopefully agreed, 

[yellowboat]

It is not a country that embraces the rule of law.  Judges are therefor more concerned with the political whims of the elite and self preservation. 

[scorecard]

1 minute ago, yellowboat said:

It is not a country that embraces the rule of law.  Judges are therefor more concerned with the political whims of the elite and self preservation. 

Very true.

[neeray]

The judges are caught between a (big) rock and a hard place ("generally" speaking"). Hopefully they will do the right thing.

 

 

[klauskunkel]

6 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Thanathorn asks judges if they want Thailand trapped in cycle of coups and civilian rule

Yes, how else can they vacation homes at Doi Suthep?

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Thanathorn asks judges if they want Thailand trapped in cycle of coups and civilian rule

Where anarchy is present the military are sure to follow!

Thailand has both camps filled with soldiers... it's a done deal whatever the outcome!

[30la]

Even with you dear billionaire, Thailand would NEVER be a democracy!
All politicians use the word "democracy" without even knowing what it means, this not only in Thailand but also all "civil" countries!

[bwpage3]

7 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Change will come, because of modern technology and the modernizing economy which requires better educated & more competent work slaves.

 

Come back in 50 years and things will be vastly improved ...

36 years later, it appears from experience to have gotten 10 times worse.

[GreasyFingers]

Why would he go to such lengths to transfer shares in a company that had "ceased operating". Someone is playing semantics here.

[jethro69]

9 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Change will come, because of modern technology and the modernizing economy which requires better educated & more competent work slaves.

 

Come back in 50 years and things will be vastly improved ...

Or they moved back to the caves. But then, I see that as an improvement compared what is now.

[BritManToo]

9 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Come back in 50 years and things will be vastly improved ...

11,000 climate scientists say we only have another 10 years then it's game over.

Or are you a denier?

[billd766]

1 hour ago, GreasyFingers said:

Why would he go to such lengths to transfer shares in a company that had "ceased operating". Someone is playing semantics here.

Probably because one of the rules about being a prospective MP is that they are not allowed to hold stakes in media companies.

[neeray]

4 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

Why would he go to such lengths to transfer shares in a company that had "ceased operating". Someone is playing semantics here.

Obviously because he wanted all the T's crossed and the I's dotted. Don't be so cynical.

[Srikcir]

13 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Thanathorn asks judges if they want Thailand trapped in cycle of coups and civilian rule

The current judiciary was established by the 2007 Constitution that was the product of a military junta. Since then the judiciary has remained intact during both civilian and military rule.

Nary was there a word or action of protest (ie., mass resignation) by the judiciary with the 2006 and 2014 juntas abolishing and rewriting constitutions. In fact the judiciary was principal in revoking several General Elections wherein a majority electorate voted against or expected to vote against pro-military factions as well as supporting the ban of anti-military political parties from elections as pursued by pro-military political forces. 

The judiciary has been only trapped by its need for self-preservation of authority sustained by undemocratic authoritarian institutions. 

[Blue bruce]

This farce of a case has been ongoing since March. How long does a decision take????

Every one the decision has already been made. The courts & judges are controled by the prime minster and his cohorts

[White Christmas13]

Yes he is a very good friend of mine I get updates every day

[gk10002000]

I don't recall reading about any judge ever standing up during a coup and speaking against it or saying it was unconstitutional and that the people should stand fast

[GreasyFingers]

13 hours ago, billd766 said:

Probably because one of the rules about being a prospective MP is that they are not allowed to hold stakes in media companies.

 

10 hours ago, neeray said:

Obviously because he wanted all the T's crossed and the I's dotted. Don't be so cynical.

Good to see someone trusts a politician.

[BobBKK]

The problem is THIS. Peer pressure. They cannot, possibly, be honest as their career, hopes, and dreams rely on COMPLIANCE.  They could have 5 minutes of 'fame' by not conforming but then 30 years to rue that 'heroic' decision. It is only after the dinosaurs are gone will Thailand change.