'Possibility of life': scientists map Saturn's exotic moon Titan

[webfact]

'Possibility of life': scientists map Saturn's exotic moon Titan

By Will Dunham

 

FILE PHOTO: This artist's concept envisions what hydrocarbon ice forming on a liquid hydrocarbon sea of Saturn's moon Titan might look like in this NASA image released on January 8, 2013. REUTERS/NASA/JPL-Caltech/USGS/Handout

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Scientists on Monday unveiled the first global geological map of Saturn's moon Titan including vast plains and dunes of frozen organic material and lakes of liquid methane, illuminating an exotic world considered a strong candidate in the search for life beyond Earth.

 

The map was based on radar, infrared and other data collected by NASA's Cassini spacecraft, which studied Saturn and its moons from 2004 to 2017.

 

Titan, with a diameter of 3,200 miles (5,150 km), is the solar system's second-biggest moon behind Jupiter's Ganymede. It is larger than the planet Mercury.

 

Organic materials - carbon-based compounds critical for fostering living organisms - play a leading role on Titan.

 

"Organics are very important for the possibility of life on Titan, which many of us think likely would have evolved in the liquid water ocean under Titan's icy crust," said planetary geologist Rosaly Lopes of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California.

 

"Organic materials can, we think, penetrate down to the liquid water ocean and this can provide nutrients necessary for life, if it evolved there," added Lopes, who led the research published in the journal Nature Astronomy.

 

On Earth, water rains down from clouds and fills rivers, lakes and oceans. On Titan, clouds spew hydrocarbons like methane and ethane - which are gases on Earth - in liquid form due to the moon's frigid climate.

 

Rainfall occurs everywhere on Titan, but the equatorial regions are drier than the poles, said study co-author Anezina Solomonidou, a European Space Agency research fellow.

 

Plains (covering 65% of the surface) and dunes (covering 17% of the surface) made up of frozen bits of methane and other hydrocarbons dominate Titan's mid-latitudes and equatorial regions, respectively.

 

Titan is the only solar system object other than Earth boasting stable liquids on the surface, with lakes and seas of full of methane being major features at its polar regions. Hilly and mountainous areas, thought to represent exposed portions of Titan's crust of water ice, represent 14% of the surface.

 

"What is really fun to think about is if there are any ways that those more complex organics can go down and mix with water in the deep icy crust or deep subsurface ocean," JPL scientist and study co-author Michael Malaska said.

 

Noting that on Earth there is a bacterium that can survive just on a hydrocarbon called acetylene and water, Malaska asked, "Could it or something like it live in Titan deep in the crust or ocean where temperatures are a little warmer?"

 

The map was created seven years before the U.S. space agency is set to launch its Dragonfly mission to dispatch a multi-rotor drone to study Titan's chemistry and suitability for life. Dragonfly is scheduled to reach Titan in 2034.

 

"It is not only scientifically important but also really cool - a drone flying around on Titan," Lopes said. "It will be really exciting."

 

(Reporting by Will Dunham; Editing by Tom Brown)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-11-19

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[Samui Bodoh]

Hot Damn!

 

We do live in interesting scientific times, and nowhere more so than in the field of space exploration.

 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Organic materials - carbon-based compounds critical for fostering living organisms - play a leading role on Titan.

"Organics are very important for the possibility of life on Titan, which many of us think likely would have evolved in the liquid water ocean under Titan's icy crust," said planetary geologist Rosaly Lopes of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California.

The presence of Organics seems to me, a layman, as a very strong indicator of some form of life. We have seen over and over again that life can and does exists in all corners of the Earth; why would an alien, non-Terran life be any different? And, if there exists life on Titan, then it logically follows that there exists a high probability of life elsewhere.

 

I think, again as a layman, that one of the biggest hurdles that we as a species will need to surmount is accepting the concept that life elsewhere might be very, very different from what we know on Earth. Even this article mentions "...carbon-based compounds critical for fostering living organisms..." may well be incorrect; what if life can and does develop/evolve based on Silicone or some other element? Will we accept that as life? Will we recognize it as life? Or would we gloss over it as an alien species and have them laugh at us for our stunning ignorance?

 

This is a field where we desperately need to have and maintain an open mind, and I sincerely hope that we as a species manage to do it.

 

While I demand evidence, I assume that we are not alone and look forward, with a bit of trepidation, to learning what else is living out there.

 

From Wikipedia;

 

The Drake equation is:

where:

N = the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible (i.e. which are on our current past light cone);

and

R_∗ = the average rate of star formation in our galaxy

f_p = the fraction of those stars that have planets

n_e = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets

f_l = the fraction of planets that could support life that actually develop life at some point

f_i = the fraction of planets with life that actually go on to develop intelligent life (civilizations)

f_c = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space

L = the length of time for which such civilizations release detectable signals into space^[5][6]

 

Fixed the equation a bit... But look at Wikipedia for the proper display; I can't get it to work. Cheers

 

 

[wgdanson]

12 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said:

The Drake equation is:

{\displaystyle N=R_{*}\cdot f_{\mathrm {p} }\cdot n_{\mathrm {e} }\cdot f_{\mathrm {l} }\cdot f_{\mathrm {i} }\cdot f_{\mathrm {c} }\cdot L}

where:

N = the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible (i.e. which are on our current past light cone);

and

R_∗ = the average rate of star formation in our galaxy

f_p = the fraction of those stars that have planets

n_e = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets

f_l = the fraction of planets that could support life that actually develop life at some point

f_i = the fraction of planets with life that actually go on to develop intelligent life (civilizations)

f_c = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space

L = the length of time for which such civilizations release detectable signals into space^[5][6]

 

Now here's one I can't do in me 'ed!

[tifino]

32 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

Now here's one I can't do in me 'ed!

... and if you try, it will do your 'ed' in ! 

[wgdanson]

8 minutes ago, tifino said:

... and if you try, it will do your 'ed' in ! 

Must get one of them Thai calculators they all use to subtract Bht200 from Bht 500 !   LOL

[tifino]

2 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

Must get one of them Thai calculators they all use to subtract Bht200 from Bht 500 !   LOL

You may need that, see how many headache tablets that that could buy you! 

[bendejo]

Too bad Vonnegut isn't around to hear of this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sirens_of_Titan

 

 

 

[30la]

How can we be so dumb?
We continue to look for life on other planets as if the eight billion humans on earth were not enough for us!

[sevenhills]

Total psudoscience, prove this using the scientific method?

[Srikcir]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

many of us think likely would have evolved in the liquid water ocean under Titan's icy crust

 

21 hours ago, webfact said:

Rainfall occurs everywhere on Titan

Terms such as "water" and "rainfall" used in the context of describing Titan's environment are somewhat misleading as those terms are easily confused with the forms of "water" and "rainfall" on Earth. They are not really comparable chemically. 

Water and rainfall on Earth is H₂O but on Titan it is generically C_nH_nr - a hydrocarbon. For example:

• Titan appears to have lakes of liquid ethane or liquid methane on its surface, as well as rivers and seas, which some scientific models suggest could support hypothetical non-water-based life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Titan#Possible_subsurface_liquid_water

However, H₂ and CO₂ can be produced from liquid hydrocarbon. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ie049902p

Thence, perhaps extract O₂ from CO₂ and combine with H₂ to produce H₂O water that can be used to sustain human life on Titan?

[IAMHERE]

Kudzu, fire ants, killer bees, etc...   Please leave it where you found it when exploring the cosmos.