Ready for change? Labour unveils 'radical' manifesto

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Ready for change? Labour unveils 'radical' manifesto

 

FILE PHOTO: Britain's opposition Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn speaks on new digital infrastructure policy as part of his general election campaign in Lancaster, Britain November 15, 2019. REUTERS/Andrew Yates

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn will unveil his opposition party's election manifesto on Thursday, setting out how in government he plans to transform Britain with "the most radical and ambitious plan" in decades.

 

With three weeks before Britain votes in its second election in just over two years, Corbyn will press his message that only Labour can challenge the status quo, fighting for ordinary people against "bankers, billionaires and the establishment".

 

Lagging in the polls, the 70-year-old socialist will hope his message of change will drown out criticism of his Brexit stance, which even some in his party say lacks the clarity of Prime Minister Boris Johnson's vow to "get Brexit done".

 

Both parties have promised to end economic austerity and relax the purse strings for stretched public services before the Dec. 12 election, which will determine how, when and even whether Britain's departure from the European Union happens.

 

Trying to combat criticism from Johnson's Conservative Party over Labour's spending plans, Corbyn will say how he plans to pay for his manifesto, which includes scrapping university fees, reducing the working week and nationalising utilities.

 

"This is a manifesto of hope. A manifesto that will bring real change. A manifesto full of popular policies that the political establishment has blocked for a generation," Corbyn will say, according to excerpts of his speech.

 

"Those policies are fully costed, with no tax increases for 95% of taxpayers."

 

Held after three years of negotiations to leave the European Union, the December election for the first time will show how far Brexit has torn traditional political allegiances apart and will test an electorate increasingly tired of voting.

 

Most polls put the Conservative Party in front, but few are able or willing to predict a victor in the election.

 

Labour has put at the forefront of its campaign its attack on "vested interests", taking aim at Johnson, who was educated at England's elite Eton public school, has considerable personal wealth and whose party has wealthy backers.

 

Corbyn has also said it will move to reverse privatisations began by former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in the 1980s, promising to nationalise rail, mail, water, and BT's broadband network to provide free internet for all.

 

Those pledges have been mocked by the Conservatives, with Johnson calling plans to nationalise broadband as a "crazed Communist scheme".

Corbyn is defiant.

 

"Over the next three weeks, the most powerful people in Britain and their supporters are going to tell you that everything in this manifesto is impossible," he will say.

 

"But they know we mean what we say. They know we will deliver our plans, which is why they want to stop us being elected."

 

(Reporting by Elizabeth Piper; Editing by Lisa Shumaker)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-11-21

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[TopDeadSenter]

Other than naive students and a few nutters I cant imagine anybody will vote for this guy, and his band of merry misfits. He doesn't even have the spine to declare his stance on Brexit, which is what caused this whole stalemate and what the election is supposed to be solving. Just in case anybody on this forum does not know the depths of his stupidity, his praise and desired emulation of Venezuela should suffice as a wake up call.

 

"For Corbyn, the Chavez regime was an inspiration — a chance to see true socialism brought to life.

Venezuela, Corbyn has said, “showed us that there is a different, and a better, way of doing things. It’s called socialism”.

It wasn’t just Corbyn. Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell, Shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott and Corbyn’s media chief Seumas Milne have all praised the ­Venezuelan revolution."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8283783/chavez-socialist-experiment-venezuela-opinion/

[transam]

He just needs a radical trip to the barbers, unless he is holding out for a mass hippy vote...????

[AlexRich]

Corbyn imagines himself like Lenin on the train, sweeping to power with his Communist manifesto. Unfortunately the train has been nationalised, and due to striking drivers it’s not running today.

[JonnyF]

No wonder he tried to stop the election for so long, with policies like that. The return of the far left.

 

Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell, ThornBerry, Jess Phillips. A bunch of incompetent loonies.

Edited November 21, 2019 by JonnyF

[wombat]

it doesn't matter what he says...history shows us what politicians say and what they do are two different things once they have the reigns of power.
The people of UK should be going to the polls with only one thing in mind....

[Chomper Higgot]

16 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Other than naive students and a few nutters I cant imagine anybody will vote for this guy, and his band of merry misfits. He doesn't even have the spine to declare his stance on Brexit, which is what caused this whole stalemate and what the election is supposed to be solving. Just in case anybody on this forum does not know the depths of his stupidity, his praise and desired emulation of Venezuela should suffice as a wake up call.

 

"For Corbyn, the Chavez regime was an inspiration — a chance to see true socialism brought to life.

Venezuela, Corbyn has said, “showed us that there is a different, and a better, way of doing things. It’s called socialism”.

It wasn’t just Corbyn. Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell, Shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott and Corbyn’s media chief Seumas Milne have all praised the ­Venezuelan revolution."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8283783/chavez-socialist-experiment-venezuela-opinion/

Students, people on low wages, people who can’t afford a home, people waiting for medical care or a doctor appointment, people relying on food banks, people working a full time job but not earning enough to live and people who are sick of Tory/Lib-Dem austerity and the damage it’s done to their lives and the nation. Hello 

 

Those kind of people.

[RuamRudy]

I have never voted Labour in my life, and thankfully I have a far better alternative to the Nasty Party than either Labour or the Lib Dems, but it is interesting that all the criticisms of Corbyn are at a personal level rather than a critique of his policies. Could it be that our more vocal TV opponents of Corbyn are happy to let the right wing media in the UK do their thinking for them?

Edited November 22, 2019 by RuamRudy

[nkg]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Students, people on low wages, people who can’t afford a home, people waiting for medical care or a doctor appointment, people relying on food banks, people working a full time job but not earning enough to live and people who are sick of Tory/Lib-Dem austerity and the damage it’s done to their lives and the nation. Hello 

 

Those kind of people.

 

It sounds a bit like the working classes that you are describing. But you told us they were racist scum Leave voters. It must feel confusing holding all those contradictory opinions.

 

[evadgib]

The opener on last night's QT was ' does labour want to lead UK back to the 70s?' which received a good laugh.

[transam]

I noted Lord Alan Sugar used the word "Communist" when talking about Corbyn, which is a word that went through my head in the past, regarding the Labour leader..

Lord Sugar also promised to leave the UK if Corby becomes PM..????

[Chomper Higgot]

43 minutes ago, nkg said:

 

It sounds a bit like the working classes that you are describing. But you told us they were racist scum Leave voters. It must feel confusing holding all those contradictory opinions.

 

I have never stated or implied that the working classes are racist scum Leave voters.

 

It is not at all confusing holding opinions that I don’t hold or have never expressed.

 

You on the overhand demonstrably need to assign to others views they don’t hold and have never expressed.

 

Perhaps you have no points in which to argue.

[yodsak]

 

Yesterdays Oddschecker seat predictions.   3 weeks to go.

[Chomper Higgot]

26 minutes ago, transam said:

I noted Lord Alan Sugar used the word "Communist" when talking about Corbyn, which is a word that went through my head in the past, regarding the Labour leader..

Lord Sugar also promised to leave the UK if Corby becomes PM..????

Lord Sugar is one of the people who would be required to pay more taxes.

 

Yet to be seen, he made his fortune in the UK but objects to paying his fair share back.

 

Would he flounce?

 

I doubt it, he’s a nobody outside the UK.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, yodsak said:

 

Yesterdays Oddschecker seat predictions.   3 weeks to go.

Three weeks before the subject manifesto was published.

[sunnyboy2018]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Students, people on low wages, people who can’t afford a home, people waiting for medical care or a doctor appointment, people relying on food banks, people working a full time job but not earning enough to live and people who are sick of Tory/Lib-Dem austerity and the damage it’s done to their lives and the nation. Hello 

 

Those kind of people.

As Corbyn says:'For the many not the jew.'

Edited November 22, 2019 by sunnyboy2018

[BritManToo]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

Corbyn has also said it will move to reverse privatisations began by former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in the 1980s, promising to nationalise rail, mail, water, and BT's broadband network to provide free internet for all.

They forgot electricity!

I always though infrastructure should be operated and owned by the state, does that make me a communist?

 

I would vote for Arthur Scargill, or Ken Livingston but not Corbyn, he lost credibility when he started pretending to oppose Brexit just to please the activists. A leader should always hold true to his own beliefs.

Edited November 22, 2019 by BritManToo

[transam]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Lord Sugar is one of the people who would be required to pay more taxes.

 

Yet to be seen, he made his fortune in the UK but objects to paying his fair share back.

 

Would he flounce?

 

I doubt it, he’s a nobody outside the UK.

I am also a nobody outside the UK, but unlike me, he has enough cash to go and live wherever he wants, not living under the umbrella of a communist.

 

As for taxes, doesn't everyone in business have an accountant to pay as little tax as possible, or are you different...?

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

As Corbyn says:'For the many not the jew.'

Nothing on the topic, so resort to bashing again.

[Orton Rd]

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Lord Sugar is one of the people who would be required to pay more taxes.

 

Yet to be seen, he made his fortune in the UK but objects to paying his fair share back.

 

Would he flounce?

 

I doubt it, he’s a nobody outside the UK.

He's also a Jew and knows that Corbyn and the anti semitic labour party hate Jews and Israel.

[vogie]

31 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Lord Sugar is one of the people who would be required to pay more taxes.

 

Yet to be seen, he made his fortune in the UK but objects to paying his fair share back.

 

Would he flounce?

 

I doubt it, he’s a nobody outside the UK.

Is it a coincidence that in Labours manifesto it says that only people earning over £80,000 a year will pay more tax, and a MPs salary is £79,500. Mnnn, I wonder. ????

 

 

[sunnyboy2018]

23 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Nothing on the topic, so resort to bashing again.

His anti semitism is on topic. Anyway: The mockery of self important politicians is a good way to highlight their faults.

Edited November 22, 2019 by sunnyboy2018

[ivor bigun]

50 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Perhaps Tories leading the nation back to the 1930s was beyond humorous.

No ,just leading us into the future ,i see that our growth prospects have been raised for next year ,that is under a Tory govt ,under Corbyn ,well if you have six kids and no husband ,dont work or wanting to come to Britain for the benifits,your laughing ,well for a short time until the money runs out ,wonder if they would leave a note this time"the moneys all gone ,again"?

[ezzra]

27 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

He's also a Jew and knows that Corbyn and the anti semitic labour party hate Jews and Israel.

And all the while pandering and showing warm and unequivocal support for terrorists, encouraging and allowing his party members to voice anti semite and anti zionist views, a real piece of work he is...

[Rimmer]

Off topic baiting post removed

[Doowat]

To chomper Higgot - How is continued mass immigration going to help these people you mention, then? Corbyn and his crew are for much more of it.

Edited November 22, 2019 by Doowat
message failed to include a quote of another posters message

[RuamRudy]

3 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

He's also a Jew and knows that Corbyn and the anti semitic labour party hate Jews and Israel.

What about the Jews who are proud Labour members and stand with Corbyn? Are they in denial?

[RuamRudy]

2 hours ago, ezzra said:

And all the while pandering and showing warm and unequivocal support for terrorists, encouraging and allowing his party members to voice anti semite and anti zionist views, a real piece of work he is...

Over the years, loyalist paramilitaries in Northern Ireland have killed more civilians than republicans, yet Arlene Foster and her DUP party continue to be their staunchest allies. Should the Tories not also face the same criticism for their support of terrorist sympathisers (and that is before we even get into the rampant islamophobia within the Nasty Party)?

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Doowat said:

To chomper Higgot - How is continued mass immigration going to help these people you mention, then? Corbyn and his crew are for much more of it.

Yes, Brexit has been mentioned many times as a means against immigration. Unjustified though.

 

So no, no connection between the 2 items you mention, no matter how much some like you to believe otherwise.

[vogie]

12 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

What about the Jews who are proud Labour members and stand with Corbyn? Are they in denial?

What about the Jews who are proud Labour members, a lot of Jews think that Corbyn is unfit to lead the Labour party and he has made little or no effort to cleanse the Labour party of its antisemitism.