Trump says U.S. to designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorists

[snoop1130]

Trump says U.S. to designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorists

 

U.S. President Donald Trump speaks as he meets with Bulgaria's Prime Minister Boyko Borissov in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, U.S. November 25, 2019. REUTERS/Tom Brenner

 

WASHINGTON/MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said he will designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorist groups for their role in trafficking narcotics and people, prompting a speedy request for talks by Mexico.

 

“They will be designated ... I have been working on that for the last 90 days. You know, designation is not that easy, you have to go through a process, and we are well into that process,” Trump said in an interview aired on Tuesday with conservative media personality Bill O’Reilly.

 

Soon afterwards, Mexico’s foreign ministry issued a statement saying it would quickly seek a high-level meeting with U.S. State Department officials to address the legal designation as well as the flow of arms and money to organized crime.

 

“The foreign minister will establish contact with his counterpart, Michael R. Pompeo, in order to discuss this very important issue for the bilateral agenda,” the ministry said.

 

Once a particular group is designated as a terrorist organization, under U.S. law it is illegal for people in the United States to knowingly offer support and its members cannot enter the country and may be deported.

 

Financial institutions that become aware they have funds connected to the group must block the money and alert the U.S. Treasury Department.

 

Earlier this month, Trump had offered in a tweet to help Mexico “wage WAR on the drug cartels and wipe them off the face of the earth” in the aftermath of the bloodiest attack on U.S. citizens in Mexico for years.

 

Three women and six children of dual U.S.-Mexican nationality were killed in the ambush in northern Mexico. Mexican authorities said they may have been victims of mistaken identity amid confrontations among drug gangs in the area.

 

Alex LeBaron, a former Mexican congressman and relative of some of the victims, on Twitter rejected the idea of a U.S. “invasion”.

 

“We have already been invaded by terrorist cartels,” he wrote. “We demand real coordination between both countries... both countries are responsible for the rising trade in drugs, weapons and money.”

 

The LeBaron extended family has often been in conflict with drug traffickers in Chihuahua and victims’ relatives said the killers must have known who they were targeting.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-11-27

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[Bluespunk]

27 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

“They will be designated ... I have been working on that for the last 90 days. You know, designation is not that easy, you have to go through a process, and we are well into that process,” Trump said in an interview aired on Tuesday with conservative media personality Bill O’Reilly.

Ah huh...

[Chomper Higgot]

So will the people who buy and use these ‘Drug Terrorist’s’ products be guilty of supporting terrorism?

 

 

[Tippaporn]

Trump continues to add to his many accomplishments.

[Dumbastheycome]

Regardless of probably good cause to consider this designation appropriate I m more  fascinated that Trump  actually states there is a "process" to  follow that takes time.

What happened to the usual unilateral edict announced  via  a tweet ?

Can not help  but wonder if in reality  it turns out to  be a more complex re negotiation  of  contracts.

[Tug]

Ok that’s an easy slab of meat for his base but how about closing the loopholes in the gun laws so thease(terriosts)aren’t so easily arming themselves?you know Donald something that takes leadership and courage not just some spoken label 

[exparte]

Great Idea.

[kamahele]

The Tom Clancy novel and movie Clear and Present Danger is about this very same thing

[Pravda]

Yep, another brilliant move by our great leader Donald J. Trump. 

[spidermike007]

The most horrific aspect of this, is that the US created these "terrorists". With the inane and completely failed "war on drugs". Trump had nothing to do with this, but as usual his understanding is deficient. Legalize all drugs, and within 60 days the cartels cease to exist, the US prison population decreases by 40%, and things are greatly improved all around. You take away the allure, and the usage usually drops. 

 

Of course the sad aspect of this, is that even if Trump were to legalize all drugs (that will probably never happen), his buddies who own the private prisons would lobby him to avoid exonerating those already incarcerated for mild drug offenses. And we all know Trump NEVER says no to a corporate lobbyist. 

[Stargeezr]

Yes This would be a good thing to do if Mexico, Central America, and South America all sign into this and outlaw all drug cartel families. Name the families and make it an open

market to start eliminating all the families, and their working staff. If all countries made it  open season on the drug cartels, maybe their demise would be a good thing for the whole world.

Geezer

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Yes This would be a good thing to do if Mexico, Central America, and South America all sign into this and outlaw all drug cartel families. Name the families and make it an open

market to start eliminating all the families, and their working staff. If all countries made it  open season on the drug cartels, maybe their demise would be a good thing for the whole world.

Geezer

The only reason drug cartels exist is because there is a demand. Unless something is done about that, the problem will persist.

[JingerBen]

This is history repeating itself.

Pancho Villa and "Black Jack" Pershing would be a hard act to follow as tragedy.

The only possibility for the Trump administration is farce.

[Redline]

Americans buy all the drugs, and give them all the guns ???? the war on drugs is one of the most massive policy failures in history. 

[billd766]

17 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Trump continues to add to his many accomplishments.

Really?

 

How much has he accomplished so far?

 

Building a wall between Mexico that Mexico will pay for?

Unilaterally pulling out of the nuclear watch on Iran?

Starting a trade war embargo against China as trade wars are easy to win?

Successfully negotiating a nuclear freeze on N Korea?

Pissing off many allies that the USA really needs.

Having a revolving door for his selection of aides and political employees.

Being caught out in so many daily tweets lies that even he can't remember what he has said about whom.

 

Enough to be going on with for a while.

[riclag]

32 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Really?

 

How much has he accomplished so far?

 

Building a wall between Mexico that Mexico will pay for?

Unilaterally pulling out of the nuclear watch on Iran?

Starting a trade war embargo against China as trade wars are easy to win?

Successfully negotiating a nuclear freeze on N Korea?

Pissing off many allies that the USA really needs.

Having a revolving door for his selection of aides and political employees.

Being caught out in so many daily tweets lies that even he can't remember what he has said about whom.

 

Enough to be going on with for a while.

 

Finally if declaring  cartels as terrorist can save lives I'm all for it. god,you people are so consumed with hate you wont concede a centimeter 

Edited November 28, 2019 by riclag

[Chomper Higgot]

21 minutes ago, riclag said:

 

Finally if declaring  cartels as terrorist can save lives I'm all for it. god,you people are so consumed with hate you wont concede a centimeter 

Explain to me how declaring (illegal drug cartels) as terrorists might save lives?

 

[tlandtday]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Explain to me how declaring (illegal drug cartels) as terrorists might save lives?

 

Duh... it gives the u.s. govt more freedom to take action against these cartels.  I disagree with international intervention but in this case it is needed as the Mexico govt is rotten to the core and too corrupt to take action proven by decades of inaction.  Where have you been under a rock?

[atyclb]

4 hours ago, riclag said:

 

Finally if declaring  cartels as terrorist can save lives I'm all for it. god,you people are so consumed with hate you wont concede a centimeter 

 

considering the numerous recurring atrocities committed by mexican cartels they should have been classified as terrorists long before trump came into office.

 

 

Mexico cartel kills 19, hangs some from bridge, leaves others chopped up on the road below

 

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/mexico-cartel-kills-19-hangs-some-from-bridge-leaves-others-chopped-up-on-the-road-below

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[riclag]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Explain to me how declaring (illegal drug cartels) as terrorists might save lives?

 

That's easy ! Just the association of the name will turn future generations of cartel loyalist to disassociation with these groups that are labeled terrorist. Just think of all the other covert actions that the average joe isn't aware of that will be implemented because of the title bestowed on them

[tlandtday]

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

The only reason drug cartels exist is because there is a demand. Unless something is done about that, the problem will persist.

Problem is the CIA is indirectly a beneficiary what needs to be done is to clean up the secret agencies such as the CIA.

[car720]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The most horrific aspect of this, is that the US created these "terrorists". With the inane and completely failed "war on drugs". Trump had nothing to do with this, but as usual his understanding is deficient. Legalize all drugs, and within 60 days the cartels cease to exist, the US prison population decreases by 40%, and things are greatly improved all around. You take away the allure, and the usage usually drops. 

 

Of course the sad aspect of this, is that even if Trump were to legalize all drugs (that will probably never happen), his buddies who own the private prisons would lobby him to avoid exonerating those already incarcerated for mild drug offenses. And we all know Trump NEVER says no to a corporate lobbyist. 

Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows this.  The problem is where do we find anyone with a modicum of intelligence.  (present company excepted.)

[billd766]

5 hours ago, riclag said:

 

Finally if declaring  cartels as terrorist can save lives I'm all for it. god,you people are so consumed with hate you wont concede a centimeter 

And if it doesn't save lives, what then?

 

I am not consumed with hate at all, just amazement that the US population actually voted Trump in as Potus, and still support his despite his hundreds or thousands of lies that he spreads on a daily basis.

[billd766]

9 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And if it doesn't save lives, what then?

 

I am not consumed with hate at all, just amazement that the US population actually voted Trump in as Potus, and still support his despite his hundreds or thousands of lies that he spreads on a daily basis.

When Trump eventually leaves the Oval Office it will take years or perhaps a couple of decades, if it can ever repair the damage that he has wrought

[MeePeeMai]

It's going to be raining down missiles soon on the Mexican drug cartel hideouts (drone strikes). 

 

Big mistake, they should have left those poor white Mormon Americans alone.  It's payback time now and "Uncle Sam don't use no peashooters no more" 5555.  You probably won't see it in the news though, this will be a quiet mission and nobody's going to talk about it afterwards... is my hunch.

[stevenl]

39 minutes ago, MeePeeMai said:

It's going to be raining down missiles soon on the Mexican drug cartel hideouts (drone strikes). 

 

Big mistake, they should have left those poor white Mormon Americans alone.  It's payback time now and "Uncle Sam don't use no peashooters no more" 5555.  You probably won't see it in the news though, this will be a quiet mission and nobody's going to talk about it afterwards... is my hunch.

Sure, dronestrikes in Mexico nobody will talk about.

[MeePeeMai]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Sure, dronestrikes in Mexico nobody will talk about.

Are you aware of the general location of this particular drug cartels location in Chihuahua Mexico?  The one that killed these women and children?

 

It is a desolate, mountainous, desert region which is very sparsely populated (a barren no man's land in other words) so a few small explosions way up in the hills would probably not raise many eyebrows.  I was referring to the MSM in the USA though.  They won't talk much about any drone strikes in the hills which killed a few "Terroristas Chihuahuas".  The Mexican government would most likely approve of such an operation (though silently) since they are probably tired of dealing with them and can't seem to make any progress on their own.  IMHO

[stevenl]

13 minutes ago, MeePeeMai said:

Are you aware of the general location of this particular drug cartels location in Chihuahua Mexico?  The one that killed these women and children?

 

It is a desolate, mountainous, desert region which is very sparsely populated (a barren no man's land in other words) so a few small explosions way up in the hills would probably not raise many eyebrows.  I was referring to the MSM in the USA though.  They won't talk much about any drone strikes in the hills which killed a few "Terroristas Chihuahuas".  The Mexican government would most likely approve of such an operation (though silently) since they are probably tired of dealing with them and can't seem to make any progress on their own.  IMHO

No way something like that would be done silently. 

[Tayaout]

8 minutes ago, MeePeeMai said:

Are you aware of the general location of this particular drug cartels location in Chihuahua Mexico?  The one that killed these women and children?

 

It is a desolate, mountainous, desert region which is very sparsely populated (a barren no man's land in other words) so a few small explosions way up in the hills would probably not raise many eyebrows.  I was referring to the MSM in the USA though.  They won't talk much about any drone strikes in the hills which killed a few "Terroristas Chihuahuas".  The Mexican government would most likely approve of such an operation (though silently) since they are probably tired of dealing with them and can't seem to make any progress on their own.  IMHO

It doesn't seem to work that well in the middle east. The cartel and a large part of Mexican population are intertwined all over the country and even the US. This is why in many part of Mexico the cartels are seen as hero. If the US start droning familly near it's border then it will breed real terrorists who won't have a long hike to attack Americans on their own soil. The reason the cartel are so scary is because they don't mind escalating violence. 

[MeePeeMai]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

No way something like that would be done silently. 

Drones are silent flying at very high altitudes.  Nobody would know what happened or be the wiser.  It won't be announced on TV and you won't hear about it in the news (is my bet). We shall see what the outcome is in due time, but my money is on a few well placed drone strikes which will probably just be written off as a large weapons cache explosion (of unknown or accidental origin).