webfact Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Thailand’s PM insists military conscription is still needed Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha, a former General, has stressed the need for Thailand to retain military conscription, because the three armed forces are currently more than 100,000 personnel short of their full complement, of which only 30% are expected to enlist voluntarily. Without naming the Future Forward party, which has been campaigning for conscription to be scrapped in Thailand and replaced by a volunteer only military, the Prime Minister said such a campaign is mistaken, noting that national security will be compromised if conscription is repealed. He explained that not every Thai adult will be enlisted into military service, but they are required to register as reservists. When they turn 20 they draw lots to decide whether they will be enlisted or can avoid the draft. “Drawing lots of black and red tickets is one of the choices and this is social justice. Everyone has the right to make the decision [sic],” said the Prime Minister. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailands-pm-insists-military-conscription-is-still-needed/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2019-11-29 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, webfact said: When they turn 20 they draw lots to decide whether they will be enlisted or can avoid the draft. Unless daddy has the money to avoid his offspring having to take part the draw ! 24 1 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just1Voice Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 Because no one wants to volunteer for the bull <deleted> they call the military. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 Of course conscription is still needed, without it the bullying generals would have no lackies to clean their houses/ cars, or tend their gardens. 51 1 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 Thai army sucks for recruits apparently and apart from China I wouldn't know who would want to take the place, but think more of our countries should still have conscription.. would certainly sort out the chavs. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlexRich Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 To the man with a hammer every problem looks like a nail ... a military guy thinks that "conscription" is the solution to a country whose borders are surrounded by ... friendly neighbours? It makes sense for Israel and South Korea ... but not Thailand. 23 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leeneeds Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 The starting point on removal of conscription, to attract would be military minded men and women. would be a decent wage, expulsion of the vulgar intimidation that currently takes place. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post z42 Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 Prayuth, as ever, proving to be the voice of reason and impartiality... But in all seriousness what did anybody expect this neandarthal to come out and say? The arguments any government put up for military conscription are almost always moot 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sunnyboy2018 Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, daveAustin said: Thai army sucks for recruits apparently and apart from China I wouldn't know who would want to take the place, but think more of our countries should still have conscription.. would certainly sort out the chavs. Sort out the chavs? Utter nonsense. It empowers working class youth to pursue their criminal aims. It trains the Chavs how to use guns effectively. It trains the chavs how to fight. It trains the chavs the discipline to work in small gangs, platoons, and how to work together as a team, coordinating, cooperating, and following the orders of a gang leader. That is why conscription was stopped inn the UK. The great train robbery was carried out with military efficiency by ex conscripts. Furthermore, the British generals rejected a conscripted army over a professional volunteer army. The youth were too rebellious, uncooperative and not scared of the officer class or the system. 12 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post YetAnother Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha, a former General, has stressed the need for Thailand to retain military conscription, no need listening to that nitwit; what does thanathorn say ? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAG Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, daveAustin said: Thai army sucks for recruits apparently and apart from China I wouldn't know who would want to take the place, but think more of our countries should still have conscription.. would certainly sort out the chavs. 1. You end up with a làrge army which you can neither train or deploy, and which is largely made up of people who don't want to be there. Most of the energy skills and experience of those few who do want to be soldiers is devoted to continuously trying to train a succession of unwilling conscripts who are just counting the days until their discharge. 2. You still have chavs, it is just that a lot of them are fitter. Edited November 28, 2019 by JAG 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lamyai3 Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: the three armed forces are currently more than 100,000 personnel short of their full complement Sounds like a local equivalent of the old expression "a few sandwiches short of a picnic". If referring specifically to the navy though, they might want to go with "not playing with a full deck"... 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, colinneil said: Of course conscription is still needed, without it the bullying generals would have no lackies to clean their houses/ cars, or tend their gardens. Or looking after your commanding officer's senile parents for a year, in the case of my brother-in-law. 14 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rkidlad Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: “Drawing lots of black and red tickets is one of the choices and this is social justice. Everyone has the right to make the decision [sic],” Does everyone have the right to make the decision not to participate? Forcing people to be part of a raffle they don’t want to be in isn’t ‘social justice’. How about, Dear Leader, you go on a televised debate and present why conscription is good. You could also explain why you didn’t recite your oath properly. Should be easy for a big brave soldier like you . 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lamyai3 Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, bluesofa said: Or looking after your commanding officer's senile parents for a year, in the case of my brother-in-law. Thailand's rapidly aging population, along with the ever increasing number of generals with drooling older relatives mean that the need for an increase in conscription has never been more pressing. 7 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 47 minutes ago, JAG said: 1. You end up with a làrge army which you can neither train or deploy, and which is largely made up of people who don't want to be there. Most of the energy skills and experience of those few who do want to be soldiers is devoted to continuously trying to train a succession of unwilling conscripts who are just counting the days until their discharge. 2. You still have chavs, it is just that a lot of them are fitter. Fitter and trained to fight in an organised way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dotpoom Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Unless daddy has the money to avoid his offspring having to take part the draw ! Or claim that he has.... "bone spurs"? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cadbury Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand’s PM insists military conscription is still needed There is still an important role to play for conscripts as footmen and servants for the Generals, politicians and their wives and mia nois. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, colinneil said: Of course conscription is still needed, without it the bullying generals would have no lackies to clean their houses/ cars, or tend their gardens. They have important job more than that Colin. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1105992/Thai-election-2019-results-update-Thailand-president-delay-ballot-count-corruption-claims Thai election 2019 results update: Soldiers take over ballot count as results DELAYED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JRG23 Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, webfact said: national security will be compromised if conscription is repealed What he actually means is that the army will not be able to protect the government from the people. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 Is the PM masquerading as a general or a general masquerading as a PM very hard to tell???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebell Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, lamyai3 said: referring specifically to the navy though, they might want to go with "not playing with a full deck"... Or sub standard. Out of their depth (charge). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobbyL Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 No surprise there. This man wouldn't be anywhere near his status should Thailand finally begin to realise that a military have no right to be involved in politics in the 21st century. He would just be another no mark bootlicker in an army that has never battled in a war in recent history. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Unless daddy has the money to avoid his offspring having to take part the draw ! True, only the poor and the stupid get dragged into the forces, if you have not got the cash just put on a dress as they don't take ladyboys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emdog Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 "All hat no cattle" My eyesight not so good in morning, thought headline was insisting military corruption is still needed... my bad 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 As others have said no need if you pay a decent wage downsize the army. Make it do what it is designed for too many tasks. But of course the generals dont like that as it means lesscushy positions for them and less need of many generals so of course an army man likes Prayut is against it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kamahele Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 With decent pay and benefits, conscription isn't needed as we've found out in the US. Your won't get rich but the benefits aren't bad if you stick it out for the long term. Even those in the short term can get an education through the military to use outside the system once they leave. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Yinn said: They have important job more than that Colin. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1105992/Thai-election-2019-results-update-Thailand-president-delay-ballot-count-corruption-claims Thai election 2019 results update: Soldiers take over ballot count as results DELAYED Do you mean all soldiers had to vote together while being watched over by their superior so they would vote for the best of the country for only the one party? Even the news posted this. Without the soldiers being pushed to vote for you know who, it is thought they would have never been elected. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 Why would they abolish the cheap labor to service them? Precisely they wouldn't! But there is one thing he cannot say, he was not a conscript and was a true country man for enlisting himself.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asquith Production Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, daveAustin said: Thai army sucks for recruits apparently and apart from China I wouldn't know who would want to take the place, but think more of our countries should still have conscription.. would certainly sort out the chavs. Why should professional armys have to put up with the dregs and chavs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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