Before: Pattaya never sleeps! After: Everyone in bed by 11 pm: Resort is dead say Thais

[Prairieboy]

18 hours ago, hyku1147 said:

Pattaya was the Las Vegas of South East Asia.

Las Vegas without the casinos - legalizing casino gambling would certainly attract the customers.  Instead of gamblers going to Cambodia, Laos or Singapore to lose their money they could do it right here at home.

[DannyCarlton]

53 minutes ago, baansgr said:

A simple shopping trip on a moped from Jomtien beach, to Big C, then Siamburis on Khao noi and then home leaving at 10.30 am will usually involve at least three police stops if not four....a trip to Tukcom, at least the same if not more...

Complete and utter nonsense. I have lived here for several years and take pretty much the route you described a couple of times per week. Never been stopped once.

[Henryford]

18 hours ago, Spellforce said:

@KhunBENQ

The problem are the DUI check: 2 beers and you'r done:

- 1st time is just a night soi 9 + a fine in tribunal

- 2nd time and you might be deported and blacklisted ! If you are an expat, you can't no more drive & drink in bars, that's the new rule.

 

You shouldn't be drinking and driving anyway. Plenty of easy cheap public transport options in Pattaya.

[mikebell]

19 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

a tourist resort that so actively looks to fleece their guests in such a way.

Totally agree - Pattaya police are greedy, grasping bandits who have helped drive tourists away without doing anything to reduce the 2nd highest road kill figures in Thailand.

[baansgr]

40 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Complete and utter nonsense. I have lived here for several years and take pretty much the route you described a couple of times per week. Never been stopped once.

First stop, junction Thapraya/Tepperasit or further up Theperasit, 2nd stop just befor Big C, 3rd stop railway junction Khao Noi, 4th stop either railway road or opposite Makro depending on return journey ...almost everyday they are there....and a trip to Central Mall could involve up to 6 stops. Not rubbish I'm afraid

[Chivas]

Make no mistake there will be no high season. Its the quitest I had ever seen recently..... Its been coming a long time and theres no way back from this. Theres a myriad of reasons for the issues but the strength of the Baht against the benchmark USD and on the other side of the currency pairings our own countries currency weakness against that same USD is exacerbating the problem

Put simply people have had enough. In the interim millions flock to Vietnam, Cambodia and the Philippines where better "value" can be found.

As someone who was on his 170th trip I'm close to calling it a day...something I thought I'd never say

Edited November 30, 2019 by Chivas

[DannyCarlton]

10 minutes ago, baansgr said:

First stop, junction Thapraya/Tepperasit or further up Theperasit, 2nd stop just befor Big C, 3rd stop railway junction Khao Noi, 4th stop either railway road or opposite Makro depending on return journey ...almost everyday they are there....and a trip to Central Mall could involve up to 6 stops. Not rubbish I'm afraid

During the day? To see a police checkpoint on the Darkside is very rare. See the occasional checkpoint on various points along Sukhumvit but never been pulled myself. You must live in a different Pattaya to me.

[Yadon Toploy]

Getting everything they deserve in spades.

[morrobay]

8 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

When was the last time you was in Pattaya?

At your next visit you could be surprise by the number of controls

i don't say they control everything all the time, it can be only the driver licence

or only alcool test, but they often verify also if i have the road disk of the year

you can believe me or not. i don't really care, but call my post ''a load of rubbish''

is more than abusive, particularly when in your post you confirm a large part of what i have writed.

It sure looks like these police checkpoints are on the increase in just last 6 months. For example around the Dolphin roundabout. Along with the increasing construction roadworks going on all over. 

[metisdead]

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[Captain 776]

The patient had had Stage 4 Cancer for decades and never been treated.

Is it a surprise to anyone?

[lapamita]

35 minutes ago, morrobay said:

It sure looks like these police checkpoints are on the increase in just last 6 months. For example around the Dolphin roundabout. Along with the increasing construction roadworks going on all over. 

..in every corner ,its getting like a police state

in 1 year minimum stopped 100 times with min 20 alc checks , and i even aware of inner pattaya streets at night, if not i would be checked already 300 times in a year

i already every time show my disapointment with the checks..and start up..with the question

 

" what you want today insurance.ccheeck mau,cheak//??

 

some police see  it and ask me back " you mau ???,can check.." bcs of my nice talking

[DannyCarlton]

5 minutes ago, lapamita said:

..in every corner ,its getting like a police state

in 1 year minimum stopped 100 times with min 20 alc checks , and i even aware of inner pattaya streets at night, if not i would be checked already 300 times in a year

i already every time show my disapointment with the checks..and start up..with the question

 

" what you want today insurance.ccheeck mau,cheak//??

 

some police see  it and ask me back " you mau ???,can check.." bcs of my nice talking

And then you woke up. 555

[Creasy]

13 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Here's the nice gentlemen in charge who have done their bit to earn it's title of world class resort destination. What could go possibly wrong ? And this was the mayor's dad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somchai_Khunpluem

 

Is that Spock in the white shirt ?

[Denim]

2 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

You can negotiate with the cops in LOS, like you can't in the UK. Works for me.

 

I think you mean ' haggle ' rather than negotiate.

[newnative]

     Lawd!  Not ANOTHER Pattaya is Dead thread!  Haven't we already had our Pattaya is Dead thread for 2019? Or several of them?  Is it now a monthly thing?  I know it's been an annual thing and I've been reading about Pattaya's imminent death since I arrived in 2010.

      So, I'm here to say DIE ALREADY!  I'm tired of being stuck in massive traffic jams everywhere I travel.  How can a dying city have so much traffic?!  I'm tired of not being able to go to Central Festival on the weekend.  I thought Terminal 21 was suppose to kill Central Festival but, like Pattaya, Festival has been really too slow to die.  Die already so I can go again on weekends.  Or Terminal 21 on a weekend, too.

     I'm tired of all the crowds of people walking in the streets and slowing traffic.  Here in Wong Amat it's a slow slog dodging around all the hordes of families with young kids in tow, some in STROLLERS!  Just die already so the streets will once again be reserved for cars.

    I'm tired of all the new construction everywhere you look--and all the mess of construction.  And, now, yet another massive project--Centre Point 2--will be going up on the exact road I use to get to Pattaya Beach Road.  Again, how many fancy new hotels and condos does a dying Pattaya need?  Enough already!  Please die already!

[baansgr]

1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

During the day? To see a police checkpoint on the Darkside is very rare. See the occasional checkpoint on various points along Sukhumvit but never been pulled myself. You must live in a different Pattaya to me.

Yes, daytime, 10.30-2.30 is their preffered times...railway road is everyday without fail at four regular locations. Never use the moped out of Jomtien anymore...song taews only so can't do siamburis now...am all legal but its just tedious to continually be stopped.

[NanLaew]

16 hours ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

just out of interest how much does it cost for a motorbike taxi at say 2am? because on koh samui it would 100s of baht

 

Probably about 200 baht depending on how distant home is. This should be compared with the minimum 8,000 baht ATM 'heist' to the worst-case 20,000 + baht and a court appearance if caught DUI.

 

16 hours ago, Spellforce said:

You forgot all the healthy expats who are living in the dark side, they dont want to cross Sukhumvit on the back of a motorbike taxi (Grab doesn't work after midnigtht).

Those locals are good spenders and all stay at home now.

Ah yes, the bizarre logic of "I could get killed on the back of a motorbike taxi by a drunk car driver" versus "I could be the drunk car driver that kills the motorbike taxi guy and his fare."

 

Seriously.

[Eindhoven]

28 minutes ago, newnative said:

     Lawd!  Not ANOTHER Pattaya is Dead thread!  Haven't we already had our Pattaya is Dead thread for 2019? Or several of them?  Is it now a monthly thing?  I know it's been an annual thing and I've been reading about Pattaya's imminent death since I arrived in 2010.

      So, I'm here to say DIE ALREADY!  I'm tired of being stuck in massive traffic jams everywhere I travel.  How can a dying city have so much traffic?!  I'm tired of not being able to go to Central Festival on the weekend.  I thought Terminal 21 was suppose to kill Central Festival but, like Pattaya, Festival has been really too slow to die.  Die already so I can go again on weekends.  Or Terminal 21 on a weekend, too.

     I'm tired of all the crowds of people walking in the streets and slowing traffic.  Here in Wong Amat it's a slow slog dodging around all the hordes of families with young kids in tow, some in STROLLERS!  Just die already so the streets will once again be reserved for cars.

    I'm tired of all the new construction everywhere you look--and all the mess of construction.  And, now, yet another massive project--Centre Point 2--will be going up on the exact road I use to get to Pattaya Beach Road.  Again, how many fancy new hotels and condos does a dying Pattaya need?  Enough already!  Please die already!

 

 

Try getting out of your ivory tower once in a while.  Terminal 21 and Central Festival do not a Pattaya make. There are thousands of small businesses out there and there are not enough tourists to support them. That is the reality.

[Chivas]

Out of interest and the source is current owner of Two Go Go bars in LK Metro but where the Avenue was the complex that never took off originally its being redeveloped with 40 Beer Bars, 35 Go Go's and 2 nightclubs.

Source is impeccable though am very surprised if even remotely accurate. We'll see on this one....

[Tops]

I wonder if the High Speed Train to Pattaya will be full of tourist somewhere next decade...

[Henryford]

40 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Yes, daytime, 10.30-2.30 is their preffered times...railway road is everyday without fail at four regular locations. Never use the moped out of Jomtien anymore...song taews only so can't do siamburis now...am all legal but its just tedious to continually be stopped.

Strange i  use my scooter nearly every day from Jomtien to Pattaya. I get stopped at most once a month. Show my docs and off in 30 seconds. Now if you drive past Walking Street at 1am with no helmet, different story.

[baansgr]

22 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

 

Try getting out of your ivory tower once in a while.  Terminal 21 and Central Festival do not a Pattaya make. There are thousands of small businesses out there and there are not enough tourists to support them. That is the reality.

And most Thais go for the free air con and window shopping

[WalkingOrders]

14 hours ago, farangchuma said:

This is exactly what I wanted when I wrote an open letter to Thailand. The city of Pattya is a joke known for low quality sexpat farangs' heaven for finding a bride thirty years younger to them. It is an adult Disley land for sexpat farangs. The things they can do in Thailand with a crane operator or a high school educated factory worker's  salary in the West, farangs could never do with their entire family's income in the West. I wanted to remind Thailand why farangs come to Thailand. They don't come to Thailand for its temples, food, arts and cultute. They only come for sex. In my open letter to thailand, I challeged Thailand to name another country where farangs have married to more sex workers than Thailand and also challeged Thailand to name a country that has solved its poverty by pimping nations' daughters to farangs in marrage. In coming months, I'm publishing more open letters to Thailand to expose how not to become a heaven for sexpat farangs and a bride mill for older farangs. 

What a load of rubbish. My bride is only 23 years younger!

[baansgr]

12 minutes ago, Henryford said:

Strange i  use my scooter nearly every day from Jomtien to Pattaya. I get stopped at most once a month. Show my docs and off in 30 seconds. Now if you drive past Walking Street at 1am with no helmet, different story.

Everyday, under the flyover, opposite VC hotel and possibly Thapraya...2nd road by Garden plaza, and soi 9 everyday...that's without outside Tony's and at top end of Klang....you are just lucky maybe.....

[WalkingOrders]

3 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

Motorsai is the thai way of pronouncing motorcycle. Quite depricating to make fun of their English pronounciation skills. A motorcycle taxi is a "win" in Thai. Motorcycle is "rod cacryan yun".

I think Motorsai constitutes a new word derived from English. Thai don't even use 'rod cacryan yun" when speaking to each other. They use motorsai. 

[potless]

15 hours ago, farangchuma said:

I wanted to remind Thailand why farangs come to Thailand. They don't come to Thailand for its temples, food, arts and cultute.

Not true.

15 hours ago, farangchuma said:

They only come for sex.

Whats Wrong with sex?

[newnative]

26 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

 

Try getting out of your ivory tower once in a while.  Terminal 21 and Central Festival do not a Pattaya make. There are thousands of small businesses out there and there are not enough tourists to support them. That is the reality.

    Supply and demand.  That's all it comes down to.  Pattaya will end up with the number of small and large businesses that it can support selling 'X' products--be it massages, laundry services, food, bars, sex, or whatever.  The tourist demographic is changing and there are now fewer Western tourists--which means demand for Western-style bars is less, which means some of these bars may close.  When people no longer needed buggy whips--having moved on to Model Ts--buggy whip sellers had to move on, too--to another type of job.  Sad, yes, but that's life and some Pattaya workers may have to do a different job as supply and demand and the changing demographics adjusts the mix of shops and businesses.  A beer bar closed, but an Audi car dealership opened.  A massage shop went under, but Jomtien Hospital will soon open--creating lots of new jobs.  And, so it goes. 

     I used to live near one of the busiest malls in America, in one of the richest counties in America.  Tremendous foot traffic with very affluent shoppers.  Yet, even in this mall there were stores that didn't make it--there were not enough shoppers for what they were selling and/or there were already enough shops for this product.  Supply and demand. 

      

[yogi100]

1 hour ago, newnative said:

     Lawd!  Not ANOTHER Pattaya is Dead thread!  Haven't we already had our Pattaya is Dead thread for 2019? Or several of them?  Is it now a monthly thing?  I know it's been an annual thing and I've been reading about Pattaya's imminent death since I arrived in 2010.

      So, I'm here to say DIE ALREADY!  I'm tired of being stuck in massive traffic jams everywhere I travel.  How can a dying city have so much traffic?!  I'm tired of not being able to go to Central Festival on the weekend.  I thought Terminal 21 was suppose to kill Central Festival but, like Pattaya, Festival has been really too slow to die.  Die already so I can go again on weekends.  Or Terminal 21 on a weekend, too.

     I'm tired of all the crowds of people walking in the streets and slowing traffic.  Here in Wong Amat it's a slow slog dodging around all the hordes of families with young kids in tow, some in STROLLERS!  Just die already so the streets will once again be reserved for cars.

    I'm tired of all the new construction everywhere you look--and all the mess of construction.  And, now, yet another massive project--Centre Point 2--will be going up on the exact road I use to get to Pattaya Beach Road.  Again, how many fancy new hotels and condos does a dying Pattaya need?  Enough already!  Please die already!

You're reading it. 

And you've contributed to it.

[newnative]

1 minute ago, yogi100 said:

You're reading it. 

And you've contributed to it.

Yes, these 'Pattaya is Dead' threads are amusing.