snoop1130 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 China's facial recognition rollout reaches into mobile phones, shops and homes By Brenda Goh People walk past a poster simulating facial recognition software at the Security China 2018 exhibition on public safety and security in Beijing, China October 24, 2018. REUTERS/Thomas Peter SHANGHAI (Reuters) - China on Sunday put into effect new regulations that require Chinese telecom carriers to scan the faces of users registering new mobile phone services, a move the government says is aimed at cracking down on fraud. The rules, first announced in September, mean millions more people will come under the purview of facial recognition technology in China. The Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) did not say which companies will provide the telecoms providers with these services but China is home to some of the world’s leaders in facial recognition software, including Megvii and SenseTime. WHAT ARE THE NEW RULES FOR CHINESE MOBILE PHONE USERS? China’s telecom operators must now use facial recognition technology and other means to verify the identity of people opening new mobile phone accounts. China’s three largest carriers are state-owned China Telecom, China Unicom and China Mobile. It was unclear how the law applies to existing mobile accounts. WHERE ELSE IN CHINA HAS THE TECHNOLOGY BEEN USED? Supermarkets, subway systems and airports already use facial recognition technology. Alibaba (BABA.N) gives customers the option to pay using their face at its Hema supermarket chain and runs a hotel in its headquarters city of Hangzhou where guests can scan their face with their smartphones for advance check-in. The metro systems of some major Chinese cities have announced they will use the technology, with government-owned newspaper China Daily saying Beijing will use it to “classify passengers” to allow for “different security check measures”. In July, the Xinhua news agency said Beijing had, or was in the process of, installing facial recognition systems at the entrances of 59 public rental housing communities. Reuters reported last year on its wide use in the western Xinjiang region, an area wracked by separatist violence and a crackdown by security forces that has seen Uighur Muslims and members of other ethic groups detained in camps. China says the camps are re-education and training centres. Chinese police are also known to have high tech surveillance gadgets such as glasses with built-in facial recognition. HOW HAS ITS INTRODUCTION BEEN VIEWED BY THE CHINESE PUBLIC? Surveillance technologies have encountered little public opposition, but there has been some mostly anonymous debate on social media platforms like Weibo. Some users argue that it is a needed to combat fraud, like scam calls, but others have voiced concerns about its implications for personal data, privacy and ethics. One rare case of opposition has involved a university lecturer, who sued a wildlife park in Hangzhou after it replaced its fingerprint-based entry system with one that used facial recognition technology. The Southern Metropolis Daily newspaper, which reported on the case in November, said he was worried that the system might result in identify theft and asked for a refund. He sued after the park denied his request. HAS CHINA EXPORTED ANY OF THIS TECH OVERSEAS? Countries from Myanmar to Argentina have purchased surveillance technology from the likes of China’s ZTE Corp (000063.SZ) and Huawei Technologies as part of plans to create “smart cities”. There has been U.S. blowback over the work Chinese firms like Megvii and SenseTime have played in Beijing’s treatment of Muslim minorities. The United States expanded its trade blacklist in October to include these firms, and others, barring them from buying components from U.S. companies without U.S. government approval. WHAT IS NEXT? The technology is currently being tested in areas such as street crossings to catch jaywalkers and China has announced that it will eventually expand its use to others like student registrations for its National College Entrance Examination. There has also been calls for greater regulatory oversight. The People’s Daily on Saturday called for an investigation, saying one of its reporters had found face data could be found for sale on the Internet, with a package of 5,000 faces costing just 10 yuan (1.11 pounds). Last week, China’s Internet regulator announced new rules governing the use of deepfake technology, which uses AI to create hyper-realistic videos where a person appears to say or do something they did not. -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-12-02 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Oh Brave new world! I wonder how this will work with identical twins? I'll let others explain why this is such a chilling development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Take a selfie .... Get recognized, maybe even arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Peter Dutton of Australia is so desperate to get his hands on this. The power he would have is just what he dreams of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 “Always eyes watching you and the voice enveloping you. Asleep or awake, indoors or out of doors, in the bath or bed—no escape. Nothing was your own except the few cubic centimeters in your skull.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 big brother is happening very fast.be very worried anywhere now and soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: HAS CHINA EXPORTED ANY OF THIS TECH OVERSEAS? There's no mention of Thailand purchasing China's tech but Thailand is already using the technology. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/facial-id-scanning-for-phone-users-in-deep-south-to-start-november-1st/ Starting October 31st [2019], mobile phone users in Thailand’s three southernmost provinces of Yala, Pattani and Narathiwat and the districts of Na Thawee, Jana, Tepa and Sabayoi of Songkhla, who do not have their SIM cards registered and their faces scanned for identification, will not be able to use mobile services. Those who want to visit the three provinces, and four districts of Songkhla starting November 1st, will also be required to register their SIM cards with their service providers, otherwise their phones will be useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkleGoooose Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Use Line or WhatsApp, There's really no need for sim cards any more. I don't have one. Don't register for anything you don't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 17 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Reuters reported last year on its wide use in the western Xinjiang region, an area wracked by separatist violence and a crackdown by security forces that has seen Uighur Muslims and members of other ethic groups detained in camps. China says the camps are re-education and training centres. China lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross163103 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: a move the government says is aimed at cracking down on fraud. Yeah, right.......maybe a byproduct but not the main reason for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Jimbo2014 said: “Always eyes watching you and the voice enveloping you. Asleep or awake, indoors or out of doors, in the bath or bed—no escape. Nothing was your own except the few cubic centimeters in your skull.” George Orwell Does anyone remember the old movie "Metropolis"? Doesn't seem quite so far fetched now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Jimbo2014 said: “Always eyes watching you and the voice enveloping you. Asleep or awake, indoors or out of doors, in the bath or bed—no escape. Nothing was your own except the few cubic centimeters in your skull.” George Orwell Got news for you, George. They're already developing technology to remotely read a person's thoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 4:21 PM, bristolgeoff said: big brother is happening very fast.be very worried anywhere now and soon Unfortunately the <deleted> will welcome this because they thing big government is wonderful, and like having the government control their lives. Hopefully, someone will invent a means by which the facial recognition software is unable to recognise us, perhaps something in glasses frames. Wonder what happens when they try to make everyone's mobile inform on our every move, and even conversations, and I refuse to have one- will I be sent to a re education camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Coming to a 7/11 near you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 2:51 PM, Krataiboy said: technology to remotely read a person's thoughts! Would have been locked up years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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