Yabiaomer Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Well, Merry Christmas. I went to a well known restaurant to celebrate Christmas lunch with friends. The special Christmas menu showed a price of 1,390 baht. When the bill came, it showed 1,390+7% tax. Nowhere in the special menu was mentioned that the price DOES NOT include tax. Should a restaurant show a price with tax included or not? (name of the restaurant is not important, so don't ask ..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron jeremy Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Nothing new to me, in Canada this is the way. what pisses me off is when I see a 15 percent service charge on the final bill. when I see this I will never return. i beleive its up to the customer if they wish to tip or not, which I do. If service warrants it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 It's kinda normal here....Not even service charge. Sure it should display that somehow but meh....? really complaining about 7% on a thousand baht bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Amazes me that anyone lives in LOS and expects it to be like "back home". They will do whatever they like. That's not to say that they shouldn't, as they should. Not a problem for me as I never used restaurants that would have cost that much to eat at. 7% of 150 baht doesn't amount to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amexpat Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 6 hours ago, ThomasThBKK said: It's kinda normal here....Not even service charge. Sure it should display that somehow but meh....? really complaining about 7% on a thousand baht bill? So only the amount matters - not the principal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 When they pull that <deleted> I just treat the 7% as the tip I would have normally left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, amexpat said: So only the amount matters - not the principal? LOS is the wrong country to ask for principles in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante99 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Yabiaomer said: Nowhere in the special menu was mentioned that the price DOES NOT include tax. And nowhere was it mentioned that it included tax. And the main menu of that restaurant has prices to which tax is added later so clearly that is the way they were going to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Hope it didn't spoil your Christmas mood....for a few bahts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trujillo Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Quote "Nothing new to me, in Canada this is the way." What does Canada have to do with pricing in Chiang Mai? I was just in a restaurant today that had NO prices, just menu items. If you have to ask, you can't afford it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Annoying is the "each to his own" handling. MOST dining/eating places that I know show all incl. prices. On the other hand almost all telecommunication prices are excl. tax. It seems an attitude of "hiso" places to display excl. prices. Example: "Chefs Table", Lebua Tower: May make them look "cosmopolitan", not to irritate customers from "excl. countries" like US, Canada, ? 8200 + 7500 = 15700 excl., 18369 incl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: Annoying is the "each to his own" handling. MOST dining/eating places that I know show all incl. prices. On the other hand almost all telecommunication prices are excl. tax. It seems an attitude of "hiso" places to display excl. prices. Example: "Chefs Table", Lebua Tower: May make them look "cosmopolitan", not to irritate customers from "excl. countries" like US, Canada, ? how in <deleted> does one eat a 7 course meal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Don Mega said: how in <deleted> does one eat a 7 course meal ? You get magnifying glasses for each course. It's called haute cuisine, fine dining They got their first Michelin star. Just wait for the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: You get magnifying glasses for each course. It's called haute cuisine, fine dining They got their first Michelin star. Just wait for the second. Ohhhhhhh, those kinda meals that you stop at McDonald's on the way home for a feed cause you still hungry !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 I dont like 7% vat and 10% service charge on my beer especially when they are charging over the odd's to start with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Don Mega said: Ohhhhhhh, those kinda meals that you stop at McDonald's on the way home for a feed cause you still hungry !! Pleasing to the eye they say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChipButty said: I dont like 7% vat and 10% service charge on my beer especially when they are charging over the odd's to start with what are the odd's ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Don Mega said: When they pull that <deleted> I just treat the 7% as the tip I would have normally left. But then you are tipping Mr Prayut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, wgdanson said: But then you are tipping Mr Prayut! Everyone gets a slice !! Ive no beef with Prayut and would rather give him coin than some scumbag dishonest restaurant owner. In saying that the restaurant is prolly dodgy and does not pass on the VAtTto the government !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 36 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: Annoying is the "each to his own" handling. MOST dining/eating places that I know show all incl. prices. On the other hand almost all telecommunication prices are excl. tax. It seems an attitude of "hiso" places to display excl. prices. Example: "Chefs Table", Lebua Tower: May make them look "cosmopolitan", not to irritate customers from "excl. countries" like US, Canada, ? 8200 + 7500 = 15700 excl., 18369 incl. I think you are right about it being linked to clientele, mainly for those on expenses. The UK is legally inclusive and when I was working I always had to ask for a tax receipt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Yes it should be law to show prices included EVERYTHING....but hey this is the Land Of Scams..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 53 minutes ago, Don Mega said: how in <deleted> does one eat a 7 course meal ? Very small (but expensive) meals on a big plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas J Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 16 hours ago, Yabiaomer said: When the bill came, it showed 1,390+7% tax. Nowhere in the special menu was mentioned that the price DOES NOT include tax. yabiaomer now come on. When do ANY prices include the 7% VAT. I don't know what country you are from but in the USA things like VAT which in the USA is called a sales tax in never included. I have never seen any store or restaurant in Thailand also include the VAT. Now if they include a gratuity, that should be disclosed up front but I would think most people would expect that they will get hit with the VAT on top of whatever price they see in a store or restaurant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 16 hours ago, Yabiaomer said: Should a restaurant show a price with tax included or not? They should show the price that they want for the dish/menu. Tax should be 'up to them'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 It does seem to be the "better" places that show exclusive prices (perhaps that's why they're labelled "exclusive"). Most of the places I use are what you see is what you pay. Try Malaysia where the prices are often +++ (sales tax, luxury tax, service charge) ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Vacuum said: They should show the price that they want for the dish/menu. Tax should be 'up to them'. tax is 7% so not really up to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trujillo Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 The man who doesn't know what a seven-course meal is should get out more often. Try a kaiseki or a dégustation (which can have more courses that the first class passengers did on the Titanic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Thomas J said: I have never seen any store or restaurant in Thailand also include the VAT. Have you ever been to any store in Thailand? They all include the VAT. Just some restaurants who think they are fancy don't include it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Trujillo said: What does Canada have to do with pricing in Chiang Mai? I was just in a restaurant today that had NO prices, just menu items. If you have to ask, you can't afford it.... Most of the places I eat in don’t display prices either. But then, it’s so cheap that even minimum wage earners can afford to eat there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabiaomer Posted December 26, 2019 Author Share Posted December 26, 2019 I read a lot of interesting opinions here .. however, my question was mainly about the law in Thailand. The restaurants, supermarkets, markets and a lot more where I shop, even massage shops show prices including all. Should shops in Thailand, by law display prices including all? That's my question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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