What do you think about? In my humbled opinion it's still their duty as well as we've to do the 90 days!

No idea what you are talking about .

yes but they are the bosses.

 

You can also go to a Doctor or clinic , I did it once for testing and they gave a nice official Headed paper with seal from their office together with my pension form signed by them also ,for 300baht , even insisted on medical check up …. as I replied you can see it is me and you can see I am alive …., no.. probably he would hear my hart bouncing …. lol

And my Country's pension service accepted it .

 

My embassy accept also a picture from the  person holding a present dated Thai newspaper send to them with the pension document form , never did that as Thai newspaper to find problem.

I really do not know what you are talking about but suspect you have to have a paper that you are alive for some reason?  Shouldn't that be the duty of your Embassy/Consulate?

1 minute ago, lopburi3 said:

I really do not know what you are talking about but suspect you have to have a paper that you are alive for some reason?  Shouldn't that be the duty of your Embassy/Consulate?

Most probably the frequent proof of being still alive, which  pension organizations request periodically.

Mine is by year or 10 month's approx. , they claim not liking paying to a dead person ... 5555

If your talking about proof of life to continue receiving a pension mine sends my £10 in local currency to take a letter they send with a code and my passport to a western union office they check its me and give me a tenner simple suggest it to them again if this is what your talking about ????

Doctor, pharmacy, dentist or teacher will do it what's your problem.

41 minutes ago, david555 said:

You can also go to a Doctor or clinic

Friend was turned away from famous Bangkok Hospital Pattaya.

"We don't issue any more" was all they told him.

(he had spent a 6 digit sum in the past there)

 

For his German state pension (DRV) the German consul in Pattaya has to issue proof of life for free (as I see the OP shows "Chonburi" and maybe German?).

But he also has a company pension for which he needs proof of life.

Mr. Consul wants a whopping 40(!) Euro for that.

He declined and found a "clinic around the corner" which did it for about 150 Baht or so.

 

For me it's a topic not before next year.

A mate told me that at the local police they will put a stamp on for some tea money.

 

49 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Shouldn't that be the duty of your Embassy/Consulate?

Yes. German consulate in Bangkok will do for free (for state pension).

But it's Bangkok and you have to be there in person of course.

Doors closed at 11 AM.

31 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Friend was turned away from famous Bangkok Hospital Pattaya.

"We don't issue any more" was all they told him.

(he had spent a 6 digit sum in the past there)

 

For his German state pension (DRV) the German consul in Pattaya has to issue proof of life for free (as I see the OP shows "Chonburi" and maybe German?).

But he also has a company pension for which he needs proof of life.

Mr. Consul wants a whopping 40(!) Euro for that.

He declined and found a "clinic around the corner" which did it for about 150 Baht or so.

 

For me it's a topic not before next year.

A mate told me that at the local police they will put a stamp on for some tea money.

 

When the police did my first one it cost me 10 cans of beer Chang. I did my second one at the local government hospital and it cost me 150 baht.

 

My question to the doctor was "Am I still alive" Answer was "Yes". "Thank you, can you please sign the form".

1 hour ago, hans d said:

What do you think about? In my humbled opinion it's still their duty as well as we've to do the 90 days!

No, I disagree. It is not their duty. Their duty is to control immigration. 

I received an interesting letter from one of my pension providers, BAE SYSTEMS, last month. In it I was asked to go to the website of a 3rd party data verification company. Once there I had to input a reference number (presumably pertinent to the BAE) and then a PIN code.

 

Once I'd done that I was then asked to input my National Insurance number and my DOB. Bingo! up came my details and I was asked to confirm that all the contact details were correct.

 

The letter never suggested that this was a 21st century way of carrying out a 'proof of life' check, but I would think it would be a fairly foolproof way of doing so. I do hope so.

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

I received an interesting letter from one of my pension providers, BAE SYSTEMS, last month. In it I was asked to go to the website of a 3rd party data verification company. Once there I had to input a reference number (presumably pertinent to the BAE) and then a PIN code.

 

Once I'd done that I was then asked to input my National Insurance number and my DOB. Bingo! up came my details and I was asked to confirm that all the contact details were correct.

 

The letter never suggested that this was a 21st century way of carrying out a 'proof of life' check, but I would think it would be a fairly foolproof way of doing so. I do hope so.

 

That sounds a lot like the beginning of an identity theft scheme...

 

I have cleaned out some off topic inflammatory posts and etc.

 

To the OP if you would inform us of your nationality we could be of more help.

If from the UK you can find some info here. https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1116803-uk-pensions-life-certificate/

 

9 hours ago, Moonlover said:

I received an interesting letter from one of my pension providers, BAE SYSTEMS, last month. In it I was asked to go to the website of a 3rd party data verification company. Once there I had to input a reference number (presumably pertinent to the BAE) and then a PIN code.

 

Once I'd done that I was then asked to input my National Insurance number and my DOB. Bingo! up came my details and I was asked to confirm that all the contact details were correct.

 

The letter never suggested that this was a 21st century way of carrying out a 'proof of life' check, but I would think it would be a fairly foolproof way of doing so. I do hope so.

 

8 hours ago, impulse said:

 

That sounds a lot like the beginning of an identity theft scheme...

 

On a letter bearing my pension provider's letter head which I clearly recognize and quotes my pension members number I rather doubt that. 

16 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

On a letter bearing my pension provider's letter head which I clearly recognize and quotes my pension members number I rather doubt that. 

 

I hope you're right.  But if your pension provider was hacked, they got your name, address and your pension member's number.  They also know exactly what the letterhead looks like.  Now they have your PIN, your National Insurance ID and whatever else you gave them or confirmed for them.

 

The odds?  Pretty good that you're okay.  But it's also possible that you gave them the last piece of data they needed to rob you blind.  Happens all the time.  To people smarter than you or me.

 

11 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Doctor, pharmacy, dentist or teacher will do it what's your problem.

I would think only going to a doctor at a hospital would be the appropriate person with medical qualifications to give someone a life confirmation. How would a teacher be qualified to tell if someone is alive or dead based on their educational qualifications?

 

On the other hand, never knew immigration were considered qualified to give a confirmation that someone's still alive.

Edited January 30, 20206 yr by bbi1

7 minutes ago, impulse said:

26 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

On a letter bearing my pension provider's letter head which I clearly recognize and quotes my pension members number I rather doubt that. 

 

7 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I hope you're right.  But if your pension provider was hacked, they got your name, address and your pension member's number.  They also know exactly what the letterhead looks like.  Now they have your PIN, your National Insurance ID and whatever else you gave them or confirmed for them.

 

The odds?  Pretty good that you're okay.  But it's also possible that you gave them the last piece of data they needed to rob you blind.  Happens all the time.  To people smarter than you or me.

 

I've been receiving mail from Equiniti, who incidentally manage 2 of my pensions, for over 10 years now. The type of paper and the envelopes used, the return address and the mailing method all give clues and I know who it's from before I even open it. I'm very confident that I would recognize a scam letter.

 

But thanks, none the less for your concern.

 

Enjoy your day.

11 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Doctor, pharmacy, dentist or teacher will do it what's your problem.

Immigrations don't do it anymore, for the rest, maybe your country accepts pharmacy, doctor, etc 

lucky you are, mine ( France ) accepts only police, amphoe , persons who have " autority " ( don't know what they mean by " autority " ), but dentists, doctors, pharmacy don't have " autority " ; if people are in hospital, ok, they accept from hospital 

 

ps : forgot to say that they accept also from the embassy ( that's what I do ) 

Edited January 30, 20206 yr by Aforek

4 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

11 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Doctor, pharmacy, dentist or teacher will do it what's your problem.

 

5 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

I would think only going to a doctor at a hospital would be the appropriate person with medical qualifications to give someone a life confirmation. How would a teacher be qualified to tell if someone is alive or dead based on their educational qualifications?

 

On the other hand, never knew immigration were considered qualified to give a confirmation that someone's still alive.

If some one is breathing, even a road sweeper could confirm that that person is alive! But road sweepers don't have stamps do they.

 

All my 'proof of life' responses are signed and stamped by my wife's niece who is the Managing Director of her own building materials company. (at least that's my term for her) No problems so far.

If it's a UK state pension, ex-established Civil Servants can do it.  I've done a few with no comeback.  Cost? - a small Chang.

13 hours ago, Moonlover said:

The letter never suggested that this was a 21st century way of carrying out a 'proof of life' check, but I would think it would be a fairly foolproof way of doing so. I do hope so.

State of the art seems verification by video "talk".

It's already used by some "fintech" new online banks.

15 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

13 hours ago, Moonlover said:

The letter never suggested that this was a 21st century way of carrying out a 'proof of life' check, but I would think it would be a fairly foolproof way of doing so. I do hope so.

 

15 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

State of the art seems verification by video "talk".

It's already used by some "fintech" new online banks.

Mobile devises are becoming increasingly trusted by institutes as providing a foolproof method of positive identification. For instance if I want to log on to my TransferWise account on my computer, I have to verify that it's me via my mobile.

 

Yes, I'm sure that there are a number of digital methods of proving ones identity 'beyond reasonable doubt' that would, in fact be superior to the outdated paper method, which is quite easy cheat.

4 hours ago, bbi1 said:

I would think only going to a doctor at a hospital would be the appropriate person with medical qualifications to give someone a life confirmation. How would a teacher be qualified to tell if someone is alive or dead based on their educational qualifications?

 

On the other hand, never knew immigration were considered qualified to give a confirmation that someone's still alive.

If you can walk in and out then you ain't dead yet, and that is the criteria. Even teachers can understand that.

4 hours ago, Aforek said:

ps : forgot to say that they accept also from the embassy ( that's what I do ) 

Provided that your Embassy is willing to play ball, of course, which the British Embassy isn't.

 

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

 

Mobile devises are becoming increasingly trusted by institutes as providing a foolproof method of positive identification. For instance if I want to log on to my TransferWise account on my computer, I have to verify that it's me via my mobile.

 

Yes, I'm sure that there are a number of digital methods of proving ones identity 'beyond reasonable doubt' that would, in fact be superior to the outdated paper method, which is quite easy cheat.

Who knows, maybe - and just maybe - DWP will latch on to this foolproof 21st Century way of doing things in the case of UK State Pension Life Certificates some time before 31st December 2100 if those of us who are still around then are lucky!

13 hours ago, Aforek said:

Immigrations don't do it anymore, for the rest, maybe your country accepts pharmacy, doctor, etc 

lucky you are, mine ( France ) accepts only police, amphoe , persons who have " autority " ( don't know what they mean by " autority " ), but dentists, doctors, pharmacy don't have " autority " ; if people are in hospital, ok, they accept from hospital 

 

ps : forgot to say that they accept also from the embassy ( that's what I do ) 

 

13 hours ago, bbi1 said:

I would think only going to a doctor at a hospital would be the appropriate person with medical qualifications to give someone a life confirmation. How would a teacher be qualified to tell if someone is alive or dead based on their educational qualifications?

 

On the other hand, never knew immigration were considered qualified to give a confirmation that someone's still alive.

Your just posting how little you know, my teacher friend signs my proof of life form from IPC UK Pensions and also signed it as just a Thai person before he became a teacher.

13 hours ago, Aforek said:

Immigrations don't do it anymore, for the rest, maybe your country accepts pharmacy, doctor, etc 

lucky you are, mine ( France ) accepts only police, amphoe , persons who have " autority " ( don't know what they mean by " autority " ), but dentists, doctors, pharmacy don't have " autority " ; if people are in hospital, ok, they accept from hospital 

 

ps : forgot to say that they accept also from the embassy ( that's what I do ) 

I have police friends so no problem my teacher friend before he was a govt teacher was Ok for UK.

Maybe you should make more Thai friends.

Does somebody know what does the US scoial security requires?  

5 minutes ago, Vascoda said:

Does somebody know what does the US scoial security requires?  

I do not get but believe they send you a letter each year that must be responded to.  So very important to have correct mailing address.

50 minutes ago, Vascoda said:

Does somebody know what does the US scoial security requires?  

They send you a 7162 form in June of every year you have to complete and send back to them within 60 days.