EU leaders remind Britain: No membership, no benefits

[bannork]

Rule Britannia, Britannia Rules The Waves.

A long, long time ago- more than a hundred years in fact. Back in 1920 the country was reeling from a terrible, unnecessary war where patriotism and nationalism condemned an entire generation to an untimely death.

Europe woke up after 1945, never again. The battlefields must turn into markets.

But idiots like this haven't learnt the lesson. Desperate to be somebody, they linger and loiter in the long gone past.

 

Edited February 1, 2020 by bannork

[bannork]

4 minutes ago, katana said:

Was looking on Youtube at how the other EU countries are reporting and feeling about the UK leaving

the EU.
From this 31/01/20 news report from German public broadcaster ZDF on their Youtube channel, it was

just comment after comment from German posters critical of the EU:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb-XrB6mIfU
Translated from German via Google Translate:
eg
Merlin W
3 hours ago
The British are enviable! Congratulations and all the best in freedom! Self-determination is sooo

important.

Bernd Siemer
9 hours ago
What lies are you going to come up with if Great Britain is doing splendidly and Germany is facing

more and more difficulties?

Tommy T.
15 minutes ago
Now the German Michel has to pay the 15% contribution payment which the GB paid for bankrupt EU

states.

I'm just
10 hours ago
What is that nonsense ?? "If you want to sell your fish with us, then you have to let us fish with you"

?? You can see what the EU has for a rat's tail

Hero Women
3 hours ago
Although the EU dictatorship wanted to prevent Brexit with lies and agitation, the British did it anyway,

very well!

ipahobby
4 hours ago
why can't we Germans vote democratically about whether we can leave the EU ...

1hausgeist
11 hours ago
Congratulation to the British People. Let us hope, that will Hungary, Italy, Spain, Greece and Germany

will follow you. Let us start the Europe of National St

Pierre Tester
Hello, Germany is also divided, when will Germany leave?

John Wötzel
1 hour ago
I wish Germany would follow ....

DjRaZieL1
8 hours ago
The British did everything right, the EU will crumble and the UK would laugh. Inflation will come in the

next few years

Brio Bernd
6 hours ago
Congratulations, Great Britain!

Icho Tolot
11 hours ago (edited)
I am very happy for the English, they did everything right !! and hopefully that was the coffin nail for

this criminal, lobby eu printed the nwo !! over time you will be much better than us!

Peter Steinert
2 hours ago
The UK is in such a hurry because they know, of course, that the euro will now implode due to the

massive flood of money and, as a result, inflation. Then of course they don't want to take on any

obligations. It was not for nothing that Mr. Gabriel joined the Supervisory Board of Deutsche Bank,

which just reported a loss of EUR 5.7 billion. Because it is an important part of the political

organization for the nationalization of the bank. Of course, the savers and taxpayers pay that again

because the owners cannot do it alone. That's what happens when you break the no-baillout clause in

violation of the law. Incidentally, this was the government's greatest crime in German post-war history.

With this break, deadly socialism was introduced within the euro area. The courts will still hold these

criminals accountable if this caste is deposed. And I think UK would rather be a state of the United

States than a state of this disgusting EU.

Günter Düsterhus
4 hours ago
The absolutely pathological repressing and lying of our media does not hide the fact that Merkel and

GROKO are responsible for Brexit, the erosion of Europe and the internal destruction of Germany. The

political madness began with the Islamization of violence at the latest in 2015.

 

How many other countries in the EU have elected parties with a policy to leave the EU?

Zero.

[TheDark]

16 minutes ago, david555 said:

"Let the games begin"....  was a saying from the Old Rome Emperors , here you can see where heading to   ...WTO …!

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/01/johnson-to-impose-full-customs-checks-on-goods-from-eu-report

Lisa O'Carroll Brexit correspondent

@lisaocarroll

Sat 1 Feb 2020 11.58 GMT

 

Johnson to impose full customs checks on goods from EU – report

Whitehall source says plans would ‘double the practical challenge at the border’

 

Boris Johnson intends to impose full customs checks on all goods coming into the UK from the EU in a break with previous government policy, according to reports.

 

“We are planning full checks on all EU imports – export declarations, security declarations, animal health checks and all supermarket goods to pass through border inspection posts,” the Daily Telegraph reported a senior Whitehall source as saying. “This will double the practical challenge at the border in January 2021.”

 

The paper reports that businesses will be informed of the policy on 10 February.

Please, please, please let Boris A Johnson's plans to become reality in March!

 

I really want to see the effects what this plan causes, as soon as possible!

 

I really want to see Boris A Johnson's big plans in action without further delay. Only then we'll see the real effects and what he really is. 

 

Sooner than later, the better. 

[vogie]

5 minutes ago, david555 said:

I think in a no deal situation the E.U. will be happy to have borders with a third party country ….defending his market … ???? And Boris can wondering around his Island , so experiencing what it means to live isolated ????

Get real David and less of this re-occuring nonsense, do you honestly think that the EU will be happy at over 1 million of its citizens losing the jobs, of course they won't. Stop saying that the EU are not bothered when it's pretty evident to all that they are, and if they are not they are not being very responsable now are they.

[david555]

5 minutes ago, vogie said:

Get real David and less of this re-occuring nonsense, do you honestly think that the EU will be happy at over 1 million of its citizens losing the jobs, of course they won't. Stop saying that the EU are not bothered when it's pretty evident to all that they are, and if they are not they are not being very responsable now are they.

It shall always be only  a 10th from your's losses in case ,...so be  it ...

Edited February 1, 2020 by david555

[TheDark]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

Get real David and less of this re-occuring nonsense, do you honestly think that the EU will be happy at over 1 million of its citizens losing the jobs, of course they won't. Stop saying that the EU are not bothered when it's pretty evident to all that they are, and if they are not they are not being very responsable now are they.

EU is not going to be happy for UK pushing out it's 3 million citizens. Who would be?

 

European people will not equally be happy for what UK did.

 

I guess this makes you happy.

 

At one day, you might wonder if what you did, was worth it. 

[Opl]

  

[bkkcanuck8]

2 minutes ago, TheDark said:

EU is not going to be happy for UK pushing out it's 3 million citizens. Who would be?

 

European people will not equally be happy for what UK did.

 

I guess this makes you happy.

 

At one day, you might wonder if what you did, was worth it. 

UK companies will be unhappy as well... and some will follow...

[CG1 Blue]

4 minutes ago, TheDark said:

EU is not going to be happy for UK pushing out it's 3 million citizens. Who would be?

 

European people will not equally be happy for what UK did.

 

I guess this makes you happy.

 

At one day, you might wonder if what you did, was worth it. 

Can you show us the evidence about the UK pushing out 3 million EU citizens please?

 

Are you so angry about Brexit that you have to make things up? I guess most Belgians have the red mist at the moment ????

[david555]

5 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Can you show us the evidence about the UK pushing out 3 million EU citizens please?

 

Are you so angry about Brexit that you have to make things up? I guess most Belgians have the red mist at the moment ????

I think they just reflecting on what they see coming from across the Channel, at same strength ..

[vogie]

8 minutes ago, david555 said:

It shall always be only  a 10th from your's losses in case ,...so be  it ...

Whilst I admire your bravado, I don't think Michel Barnier is as irresponsable as you are. But when you get the EU saying "we want total alignment and you must follow our laws and we want access to your fishing waters" it would appear that the imminent talks are a tad wobbly before they begin. I honestly think that the EU has more to lose than the UK and if they are teetering on recession I think they need every euro they can lay their hands on and it would be very unwise for the EU experiment to go down that route.

You do see the difference now between Boris Johnson and Mrs May, if not let me explain, May was a very poor defender whilst Boris is a first class attacker.

[TheDark]

4 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Can you show us the evidence about the UK pushing out 3 million EU citizens please?

 

Are you so angry about Brexit that you have to make things up? I guess most Belgians have the red mist at the moment ????

Walk with the boots of EU citizen in UK for a moment.

 

UK has shown that it no longer welcome EU citizens in the United Kingdom. The message has been received loud and clear by everybody. 

 

EU immigrants are worthless pieces of shaite defined by what is now power movement in England.

 

Who, self respecting person with skills, which can be used elsewhere, would like to move or live in such and racists, unwelcoming, environment?

This is not making things up. I certainly would not move to live in a country where I would be, by definition of the current mood of the country, be labeled as unwanted yet needed. 

Unwanted yet needed is what UK's "Australian" immigration policy is all about. I guess UK will still allow unwanted folks with enough money, to come in.

Once again, really off point for skilled workers. 

Abusing common people is not sexy. 

[CG1 Blue]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

I think they just reflecting on what they see coming from across the Channel, at same strength ..

I don't think so. Across the channel the British people have succeeded in gaining self determination, and have already demonstrated fair treatment for EU citizens living in the UK. 

The Belgians however are angry that the EU is in danger of imploding now. The EU project put Belgium on the map. Before the Brussels cartel existed, all Belgium had was mussels and chips (which are delicious by the way ????)

[david555]

3 minutes ago, vogie said:

Whilst I admire your bravado, I don't think Michel Barnier is as irresponsable as you are. But when you get the EU saying "we want total alignment and you must follow our laws and we want access to your fishing waters" it would appear that the imminent talks are a tad wobbly before they begin. I honestly think that the EU has more to lose than the UK and if they are teetering on recession I think they need every euro they can lay their hands on and it would be very unwise for the EU experiment to go down that route.

You do see the difference now between Boris Johnson and Mrs May, if not let me explain, May was a very poor defender whilst Boris is a first class attacker.

"You do see the difference now between Boris Johnson and Mrs May, if not let me explain, May was a very poor defender whilst Boris is a first class attacker.

 

Thus you see now also the difference from handling by E.U. , as you are no longer member of the house , group , herd ,   or whatever you where before  …. Brexit concluded  that …. as  I predicted before  ...the white cotton gloves are of now  attackers become handled as such ...

 

Brexit was a change for U.K. ….. but also for the E.U.  I am surprised you don't understand that

[bkkcanuck8]

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

Whilst I admire your bravado, I don't think Michel Barnier is as irresponsable as you are. But when you get the EU saying "we want total alignment and you must follow our laws and we want access to your fishing waters" it would appear that the imminent talks are a tad wobbly before they begin. I honestly think that the EU has more to lose than the UK and if they are teetering on recession I think they need every euro they can lay their hands on and it would be very unwise for the EU experiment to go down that route.

You do see the difference now between Boris Johnson and Mrs May, if not let me explain, May was a very poor defender whilst Boris is a first class attacker.

The fish thing is negotiation of fishing rights and markets to sell fish.  The UK right now mainly sells fish into Europe so if that remains so, then Europe has bargaining power in that area.  Most trade agreements Canada has signed have typically included some access to fishing as well (fishing industry is quasi-service industry; and resource mix).   On the other hand not having any agreement leaves ships sitting right on the edge in international waters fishing without any regulations covering them.  It is much more complicated than you read in your daily newspaper.

 

Every trade agreement has a level of alignment in it, usually smaller economies align more with larger economies when agreements are signed.

[CG1 Blue]

3 minutes ago, TheDark said:

Who, self respecting person with skills, which can be used elsewhere, would like to move or live in such and racists, unwelcoming, environment?

How about the 2.5 million EU citizens who have already applied for Settled Status? They are clearly not as concerned as you are.  

[vogie]

1 minute ago, CG1 Blue said:

I don't think so. Across the channel the British people have succeeded in gaining self determination, and have already demonstrated fair treatment for EU citizens living in the UK. 

The Belgians however are angry that the EU is in danger of imploding now. The EU project put Belgium on the map. Before the Brussels cartel existed, all Belgium had was mussels and chips (which are delicious by the way ????)

As somebody else put it, the UK is no longer a star on somebody elses flag.

[bkkcanuck8]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

As somebody else put it, the UK is no longer a star on somebody elses flag.

And one day, Scotland will no longer be a stripe on someone else flag... same same. ????

Edited February 1, 2020 by bkkcanuck8

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

The fish thing is negotiation of fishing rights and markets to sell fish.  The UK right now mainly sells fish into Europe so if that remains so, then Europe has bargaining power in that area.  Most trade agreements Canada has signed have typically included some access to fishing as well (fishing industry is quasi-service industry; and resource mix).   On the other hand not having any agreement leaves ships sitting right on the edge in international waters fishing without any regulations covering them.  It is much more complicated than you read in your daily newspaper.

 

Every trade agreement has a level of alignment in it, usually smaller economies align more with larger economies when agreements are signed.

It matters not one jot, we now can decide who does and who does not fish our waters, it will be on our terms.

[david555]

3 minutes ago, vogie said:

As somebody else put it, the UK is no longer a star on somebody elses flag.

So you must understand the reverse is also existing  , no influence anymore in a house you left , just being a neighbor 

Edited February 1, 2020 by david555

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

And one day, Scotland will no longer be a stripe on someone else flag... same same. ????

You have proof of that or are you just baiting?

Edited February 1, 2020 by vogie

[bkkcanuck8]

Just now, vogie said:

It matters not one jot, we now can decide who does and who does not fish our waters, it will be on our terms.

Maybe, but then at the same time - you might not have a market to sell them into (without significant duties).  Not that that would not be a bad thing, fishing stocks might have a chance to recover more.

[Youlike]

On 1/31/2020 at 9:05 PM, BritManToo said:

The EU accounts for 7% of the worlds population, and 50% of the worlds welfare payments.

The EU accounts for 9.6% of the worlds population....

 

#	Region	Population (2020)	Yearly Change	Net Change	Density (P/Km²)	Land Area (Km²)	Migrants (net)	Fert. Rate	Med. Age	Urban Pop %	World Share
1	Asia	4,641,054,775	0.86 %	39,683,577	150	31,033,131	-1,729,112	2.2	32	0 %	59.5 %
2	Africa	1,340,598,147	2.49 %	32,533,952	45	29,648,481	-463,024	4.4	20	0 %	17.2 %
3	Europe	747,636,026	0.06 %	453,275	34	22,134,900	1,361,011	1.6	43	0 %	9.6 %
4	Latin America and the Caribbean	653,962,331	0.9 %	5,841,374	32	20,139,378	-521,499	2	31	0 %	8.4 %
5	Northern America	368,869,647	0.62 %	2,268,683	20	18,651,660	1,196,400	1.8	39	0 %	4.7 %
6	Oceania	42,677,813	1.31 %	549,778	5	8,486,460	156,226	2.4	33	0 %	0.5 %

[bkkcanuck8]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

You have proof of that or are you just baiting?

Proof only exists after the fact.  When you make constitutional changes over the wishes of a nation state who voted the other way - it causes stress in the Union... Scotland already has a strong separatist core that only needs a little more disenchantment to make it leave.  I would say fate...

[david555]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

You have proof of that or are you just baiting?

How can you ask for a proof of future , only hopes and guesses exist , expectations ,proof  can find in laboratory's example 

[TheDark]

6 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

I don't think so. Across the channel the British people have succeeded in gaining self determination, and have already demonstrated fair treatment for EU citizens living in the UK. 

The Belgians however are angry that the EU is in danger of imploding now. The EU project put Belgium on the map. Before the Brussels cartel existed, all Belgium had was mussels and chips (which are delicious by the way ????)

Oh really.

 

English people have since 2016 referendum said to "lesser British" folks, who don't speak Queens English and don't look like them, to fruck themselves and go back to their countries of origin.

 

Britain first! Quite like USA first by the orange event in the USA.

 

 

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

Maybe, but then at the same time - you might not have a market to sell them into (without significant duties).  Not that that would not be a bad thing, fishing stocks might have a chance to recover more.

As long as the UK has the power to make those decisions and not some jumped up beaurocrats in Brussels thats all that matters, maybe the French will have to start eating Yorkshire Puddings instead of poisson.????????

[bkkcanuck8]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

As long as the UK has the power to make those decisions and not some jumped up beaurocrats in Brussels thats all that matters, maybe the French will have to start eating Yorkshire Puddings instead of poisson.????????

Nope, it will just mean the French will have to go with Canada rather than UK fish.

[david555]

16 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

I don't think so. Across the channel the British people have succeeded in gaining self determination, and have already demonstrated fair treatment for EU citizens living in the UK. 

The Belgians however are angry that the EU is in danger of imploding now. The EU project put Belgium on the map. Before the Brussels cartel existed, all Belgium had was mussels and chips (which are delicious by the way ????)

Just another narrow minded reaction ….. I thought the "herrenfolk" feeling was exterminated at Nuremberg.... seems it started revived a new life in England  

Edited February 1, 2020 by david555

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

Proof only exists after the fact.  When you make constitutional changes over the wishes of a nation state who voted the other way - it causes stress in the Union... Scotland already has a strong separatist core that only needs a little more disenchantment to make it leave.  I would say fate...

I have no intention of turning this into another Scottish independence thread and I don't think you should either, if you want to discuss Scottish independence, go to the Keir Starmer thread.